First Grow! God's Haze With PICS
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BlackRoses
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Yo yo ganja Farma,
Alright first things first..
- Are you going to repot your plants? if so make sure to add more perlite into the soil mix.. I see you're only using about 10% in the mix. it should be more like 20% to help prevent soil compaction. If your soil becomes too compact, this will be a huge headache.. trust me!
- I also noticed your plants are ready to start receiving some nutrients (about 25% the recommended dosage given on the bottle)..
Yellowing of the leaves is a clear sign of nutrient deficiency or sometimes soil compaction causing there not to be enough air in the soil and thus choking your roots (but I doubt it's this one).
- Lastly some growers will give remarks to this one.. but such small plants shouldn't be lollipopped yet. The leaves help the plant to get bigger during this important growth stage.
You haven't caused the plants any harm, but I believe you just helped slower their growth significantly, And with the deficiency in the soil, there aren't enough leaves for the plant to take nutes away from.
Please keep an eye on your plant and start on something, atleast some organic stuff to keep it happy
Good luck bro,
I will be checking up on stuff
Alright first things first..
- Are you going to repot your plants? if so make sure to add more perlite into the soil mix.. I see you're only using about 10% in the mix. it should be more like 20% to help prevent soil compaction. If your soil becomes too compact, this will be a huge headache.. trust me!
- I also noticed your plants are ready to start receiving some nutrients (about 25% the recommended dosage given on the bottle)..
Yellowing of the leaves is a clear sign of nutrient deficiency or sometimes soil compaction causing there not to be enough air in the soil and thus choking your roots (but I doubt it's this one).
- Lastly some growers will give remarks to this one.. but such small plants shouldn't be lollipopped yet. The leaves help the plant to get bigger during this important growth stage.
You haven't caused the plants any harm, but I believe you just helped slower their growth significantly, And with the deficiency in the soil, there aren't enough leaves for the plant to take nutes away from.
Please keep an eye on your plant and start on something, atleast some organic stuff to keep it happy
Good luck bro,
I will be checking up on stuff
newbganjafarma
Active Member
Hey guys thnx for all those suggestions and info helps alot
! about the transplanting.. i will b transplanting them real soon into bigger pots..and hey umm tkjoe my pots are 16 cm in height.... and the reason i think it looks maybe stretched or sumtin in the pic is because i took the pic after i cut off all the bottem leafs because sum had a lil bit of yellowish colors on them so i thaught id jus take off the whole bottem layer i hope i didnt do rong i didnt want the yellow color to spread onto the other leafs. OR MAYBE it could b stretched not sure tho i have jus put up the 250 watt HPS light maybe its too high? how high do u guys think a 250 watt HPS light should b away from the babies? im also planning to put up 1 more 250 HPS light real soon. and newgrowth umm im not really sure wha u mean by fertilizing
does that mean giving them nutes.. im sorry i am a newb but hey im giving it my all LOL and Blackroses no i havnt fed them n e nutes at all! im not sure which one i shud feed them whats the best and reasonable price one i dun really have a high budget but i will try my best..and the only reason i lollipopped it was because the bottem leafs were starting to get a bit more yellow and one leaf started looking like it was turning extra yellow so i chopped off all those bottem yellowish looking leafs otherwise i wudnt have i hope i didnt do rong.. did i? ABOUT THE NUTES GUYS THO OVERALL I DO want to give them nutes but im scared but i no i have to i guess.. soo if n e one has suggestions on some good nutes that wud help them stay real healthy and isnt that expensive at all id love to hear about it i was also looking at my buddys grow the other day and he didnt also use n e nutes and his is 1 month older then mine almost and his plants are about 2 feet tall rite now and jus entered the flowering stage i didnt really see n e thing rong with his.. so if a person does not use nutes at all what happens? whats the difference? AND YES i am still planning on using nutes but jus a question i had thnx guys
! about the transplanting.. i will b transplanting them real soon into bigger pots..and hey umm tkjoe my pots are 16 cm in height.... and the reason i think it looks maybe stretched or sumtin in the pic is because i took the pic after i cut off all the bottem leafs because sum had a lil bit of yellowish colors on them so i thaught id jus take off the whole bottem layer i hope i didnt do rong i didnt want the yellow color to spread onto the other leafs. OR MAYBE it could b stretched not sure tho i have jus put up the 250 watt HPS light maybe its too high? how high do u guys think a 250 watt HPS light should b away from the babies? im also planning to put up 1 more 250 HPS light real soon. and newgrowth umm im not really sure wha u mean by fertilizing does that mean giving them nutes.. im sorry i am a newb but hey im giving it my all LOL and Blackroses no i havnt fed them n e nutes at all! im not sure which one i shud feed them whats the best and reasonable price one i dun really have a high budget but i will try my best..and the only reason i lollipopped it was because the bottem leafs were starting to get a bit more yellow and one leaf started looking like it was turning extra yellow so i chopped off all those bottem yellowish looking leafs otherwise i wudnt have i hope i didnt do rong.. did i? ABOUT THE NUTES GUYS THO OVERALL I DO want to give them nutes but im scared but i no i have to i guess.. soo if n e one has suggestions on some good nutes that wud help them stay real healthy and isnt that expensive at all id love to hear about it i was also looking at my buddys grow the other day and he didnt also use n e nutes and his is 1 month older then mine almost and his plants are about 2 feet tall rite now and jus entered the flowering stage i didnt really see n e thing rong with his.. so if a person does not use nutes at all what happens? whats the difference? AND YES i am still planning on using nutes but jus a question i had thnx guys
Cyproz
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Sup bro, yea i started them from seed about 35-40 days ago. They basically vegged for 3 weeks automatically even though i was doing 12/12. Then they showed their sex and started growing really fast. I gave them nutes at like 1/8 strength about 3 weeks in, cause my medium is a soiless mix with nothing in it nutrient wise. Now i give them full strength. Im using cal mag, PBP bloom, karma and sweet grape.
tkjoe
Active Member
hey Bud, you did the right thing by taking off the yellow leafs. i was instructed to do the exact same thing. those leafs end up choking the other ones because they try and pull more nutrients in the soil. i took off 2 leafs myself. the 3 finger leafs.
About the Nutes. i am going through the exact same issue as you. i am really realyl unsure of what nutrients to use. because i am farther away from any good stores. like 5 hours away, i dont have many that are available accept canadian tire and rona/home hardware brands. i am so unsure of what to use, i havent gone to buy any. i do know in Flowering, you can use charcoal as a fertilize because it packed with phosphrus and Potassium. but i am not usre of anything organic that is full of nitrogen. I do know someone told me to use 25% of a normal nutrient mix, then water them twice without nutrients, then do 50% and water twice, then go to 100% and water twice, and just continue on that schedule. but what nutrients to use, i am really unsure.
OH the joys of being a newb hey.
About the Nutes. i am going through the exact same issue as you. i am really realyl unsure of what nutrients to use. because i am farther away from any good stores. like 5 hours away, i dont have many that are available accept canadian tire and rona/home hardware brands. i am so unsure of what to use, i havent gone to buy any. i do know in Flowering, you can use charcoal as a fertilize because it packed with phosphrus and Potassium. but i am not usre of anything organic that is full of nitrogen. I do know someone told me to use 25% of a normal nutrient mix, then water them twice without nutrients, then do 50% and water twice, then go to 100% and water twice, and just continue on that schedule. but what nutrients to use, i am really unsure.
OH the joys of being a newb hey.
tkjoe
Active Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsKOzrymxZE that will show you what people who have No money at all use for fetilizer.
Cyproz
Well-Known Member
bro order offline, its safe because nutes are completely legal and they dont say" hey hes ordering nutes lets check him out" or anything like that so dont worry. I recommend botanicare, im tyring it now after fox farm and i have to say i like it way way better. Plus online you can get way better prices.
welsh wizz
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When are you going to repot? Looks like you need to.
Yellowing in veg of the lower leaves indicate a lack of feed left in the soil.
Take a pic for me the underside of the pot.
Yellowing in veg of the lower leaves indicate a lack of feed left in the soil.
Take a pic for me the underside of the pot.
erkelsgoo420
New Member
Start out a 1/4 strength with ur nutes. And do that ASAP ur ladies are hungry and u need and want to maximize potential. Feed them two at 1/4 2 at 1/2 and so on til u hit full dose. Keep on the veg nute EVEN AFTER THE 12/12 SWITCHam wait intil it is sexed and beginning to flower before u stop the veg nute and start the flower. And ur final pot should be at least 3- gallons. Never transplant after 2-3 weeks into flower and I would do it a week or two before flower otherwise ur just wasting most of the new soil. Are u still under floros? The more light the more bud so if u can slide a mixture of 6500 and 2400' cfls in it will help ur cause. But on a positive note ur ladies look great. Ill be watching... Also listen to the man above me... He's yet to steer me wrong
newbganjafarma
Active Member
hey bro thanx alot i kinda made a newb mistake so i'v hurd cause im using MG soil... so im not sure what kinda of nutes i should give my babies at this stage? and about the lights i actually jus put up a 250 watt HPS light and im planning on putting up one more 250 watt HPS light probaly today or tmr... i jus dont wanna use a nute at this stage and kill n eof my babies since iv hurd that in MG soil there is already alot of nutes? cuz of nute balls or sumting... not sure 100% thats what iv hurd.. so im really confused bro on what nute i wud give my babies if they in MG SOIL i really dont wanna hurt them thnx for the info tho helped alot
erkelsgoo420
New Member
Edit just re read and see u have at least 250w of hps. Dude ur golden now that u got some light give them the nutes and watch them blow ur mind man.. Good job
newbganjafarma
Active Member
hey welsh wizz thnx for the suggestion bro umm im actually planning to re-pot them asap by this weekend in about 2 3 days asap! umm i would take pictures from under the pots bro but! its a all closed fixture except one hole in the middle at the bottem of it.. if it helps ill take a pic of it but u cant see much but a lil hole and behind that lil hole u jus see sum soil... but i am also starting to get the feeling that i do need to re-pot asap! and i wil get to that ASAP!!! thnx bro
erkelsgoo420
New Member
My pleasure. As for the mg u kinda painted urself into a corner. But I know people who won't use anything but mg. Ur ladies are hungry. They're showin it. I would say start out at 1/8th strength every other watering. And work ur way up... It won't hurt them and if it does I got a room full of genetics to get ya back up lol. But really I know it seems awkward but do it. They will love it... What nutes u got/usin?
erkelsgoo420
New Member
And I saw u said something about removing some fan leaves earlier? All is well if u need to prune for light penetraion or the leaf is MORE than 50% dead. Otherwise don't remove them this is essentially ur plants energy storage so by removing them u are effectively harming ur potential yield. Lol sorry there may be a few random seemingly off topic post for a few minutes as I'm inly on page 5
erkelsgoo420
New Member
Up to date. Imma pull up a chair if ya don't mind
newbganjafarma
Active Member
Hey bro thnx so much for keeping up with me and my journal ur helping me enuff.
about the nutes tho yet bro like i sad no nutes yet man because im really UNSURE about what type of nutes of should give them since they in MG soil
do u or ANYONE have n e suggestions on what type of nutes i should give them if they in MG SOIL
erkelsgoo420
New Member
Any of them will work. I personally am a whore for anything by advanced nutrients or fox farm but even shultz plant food will work for them just start out at 1/4 tsp to 5gallons of water and work ur way up. U could also TRY giving them a good flush. I hear MG when flushed does the opposite and actuallt opens up the little nute balls in the soild. U could try that first but I doint reccommend overwatering everytime. But I would get gro from AN or grow big from fox farms and either tiger bloom (organic yet very easy to burn ur plants with) or bloom 0-5-4 from AN (smells so good ull wanna drink it)
raiderman
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heres a pic in my album. heres my nutes i use in order ,flushing with RO water every other feeding . i use least amnt required.weed is very sensitive and needs little actually . i use a seedling nute for the first 2 weex. my soil mix is ocean forest with 40% perilite to make it real airy and loose.dries out faster.gd luk.heres the order iuse .
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newbganjafarma
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get raiderman thnx alot for the info but whats RO water? and my plants are 4 weeks old and are in MG SOIL what do u recommend for what type of nutes i should get for these plants at this stage? I just dont want to kill them or harm them