Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

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LionsRoor

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mntnvew said:
OK, I am ready to move my clones to my veg unit, I used the stink veg dual container system and put the recommend nutes in and my Hanna GroCheck is flashing 2000 PPM (that is it's limit, as it is for my veg, I thought one that went up to 2000 PPM would suffice).

What did I do wrong? I added the exact recommend VEG nutes and then set the pH. The PPM flashed around 1400-2000 for a spell when I first inserted probes but then it just started flashing 2000 PPM (which manual says that it is OVER GroCheck limit).

How do I lower PPM? What if I wanted to higher it, hypothetically, in the future?

THANKS et al!
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Perhaps you went wrong here? - you did not gradually add the concentrated nutrient mix. You add a little, check the PPM's, and add a bit more until you get to the target PPM. You added all of it and it went over 2000 PPM.

On that note, many Hanna meters display EC up to 4.0 minimum - which is the equivalent of 2800 PPM (most Hanna meters are calibrated to 1.0 EC = 700PPM).

On that note - different strains do better at different PPM's. CO2 PPMs in the room will also govern nute levels, as more CO2 is used, higher levels of nutrients can be used. Obviously, people have varyinig opinions on what exactly is the best PPM level. I run lower than Stink on my nute levels - starting at just 750 for my first feeding after they root. At the height of flowering, 1 run as high as 1700 for my OG - but frequent res changes are required to avoid over-salting. I could avoid this by using bigger resivoirs (not possible) or running lower PPM's. Understand, it's hard to under feed - start lower and work up. Your Hanna meter will do you fine for now - as you do not need to go over 2000 PPMs until you really get all other variables max'd out.
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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i run 2.0 ec in veg for small and 2.9 for large veg and same for all flowering
5.8 ph seems best
also.....i like using veg nutes for the first 2 weeks of flowering too......then i just add bloom nute mix after that.......and ive been using sweet for both veg and flower
 
alsoranmike

alsoranmike

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jblwired said:
Hello again everyone. I tried to type up an apology the other day, for the ranting and raving that I did a little ways back, when I was in severe pain and frustrated, but the damn site logged me off right before I sent it, so here it is, again. Lol. I honestly and sincerely apologise for wasting precious thread space on my personal BS. I'll try and stick to posting about the system, use paragraphs, and use a spell checker from here on out. Lol. Oh yeah, and I was also wanting to thank WhiteDiamond for the Rep on the PVC toxicity question that I answered.

Now since that is out of the way, I have a question. Has any one on here attempted to build a system out of fuel pumps and injectors? I think I am going to try it. It will certainly be easier on the clone and veg units. I have experimented with the pumps and injectors, and as a mechanic, I know they put off a much finer mist, meaning even more aeration. I figure the screen will filter large particles, the 12v pump is submerged and powered by an array of 12v batteries, then the solution is filtered with a large fuel filter(possibly a diesel truck filter), then
hopefully the roots are simply and gently sprayed.

I'll start a thread soon if it sounds interesting to all of you. Right now I just want to see what the best grow thread out there has to say about all of this. I'm just trying to share some technical love. I have fuel pumps, batteries, wire, and I am just a few items short of actually doing this thing!

On to the electrical. I mentioned a 12v system comprising of; multiple large batteries wired parallel(anything 12v), a good battery maintainer, timer( the line voltage timers we already use can be used with this too, just to trigger the 12v side), but I think I will experiment with windshield wiper delay modules and try to extend the on an off time, since they use 12 volts also. Can you guess what this kind of setup also mimics? The cheapest and best damn uninterruptible power supply you could possibly have!!! If the power goes out, the pumps never get interrupted. The only thing that happens, is the maintainer doe not charge the batteries for a while. With enough car batteries wired in parallel(positive to positive, and negative to negative) this should have the capability of running for days, or maybe even weeks, with out a recharge! I need feedback on this one fellows. I want to try and figure out some of the kinks before the build. How about it?
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I think it's a cool as hell idea regarding the 12v portion of your brainstorm. It would essentially render it possible to use DC as the main source of power to your pump with AC used as a sort of "back-up" source. All AC needs to do is charge the batts once in a while. Great idea.

Just please try not to get real long-winded about the mechanics of this, will ya? lol.

Keep me posted bud. If easy enough to build I bet it would help a bunch of people dealing with sporadic power issues.

That's the only drawback with this system. Lose lights for a day no biggie. Lose roots and yer eff'd.
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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well my last 3 units using a total of 900 hps (2 units per 600) with co2 and running romulus for 10+ weeks i hit 40 oz or 1.25 grams per watt
i cant even begin to tell u how happy i am
im currently building 8 more units.....6 flower and 2 more veg
 
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LionsRoor

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add1ct1on said:
Stink, just wondering what your average harvest is up to?

Anyone else care to share? :)
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Aoorox 8 oz per 600 watt (3 x 600 light room) - og kush - tightly trimmed (or plucked, in the case of the OG) - everybody else gets more than me - so I am glad to have room for improvement. While my yields may not be the highest - the quality is top of the line. Super stoners say things like 'best ever, all-time, perfect bud' etc. I give the credits to my genetics rather than my green thumb. Having grown this same strain many other ways, I can say the Stink system produces the most profound and incredible flavors; the Botanicare organic nutes provide that subtle 'grown in soil' taste that has fooled more than one seasoned smoker. Thanks, Stink and The Buds!

Last I heard - Stink was up to 27 oz per rack - with 1000 watt per rack.
 
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LionsRoor

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dagobaker said:
Lion. U adding co2 ?
Adds 35/40% easy
I never hit more than .4 before aero or co2. Now im hitting 1.25
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I used C02 for the first couple weeks - but not really. I had my C02 gen at another location. I will be using C02 in my Stink room moving forward.

Wow - sounds like the Stink system really likes the CO2! I would be astounded to get 1 gram per light - your 1.25 is amazing! I have used CO2 in other grow efforts but have never seen that much improvement. I can get close to a pound per 600 - but that is still only .75 - which is my goal for the Stink unit - 1 lb as the advertisement promised! haha
 
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LionsRoor

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dagobaker said:
well my last 3 units using a total of 900 hps (2 units per 600) with co2 and running romulus for 10+ weeks i hit 40 oz or 1.25 grams per watt
i cant even begin to tell u how happy i am
im currently building 8 more units.....6 flower and 2 more veg
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Do you use light movers?

What do you run your CO2 ppm at?

Thanks for any help you can give me to get to 1 g per watt!
 
robotninja

robotninja

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Has anyone tried to grow some true monsters under Stinkbud's units? I mean like 2-4 600w Lights over just a few plants vegged over long period?

I think the fence posts might not be big enough to support the root system for such monsters... still, gotta wonder :twisted:

I may try 2x 600watters over 6x plants... This is a work in progress :blsmoke:
(BTW, I know it would be better to run 3x stink units, but alas I can only grow 6 plants myself, so I'm trying to max my output from a small number of plants)
 
txhomegrown

txhomegrown

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robotninja said:
Has anyone tried to grow some true monsters under Stinkbud's units? I mean like 2-4 600w Lights over just a few plants vegged over long period?

I think the fence posts might not be big enough to support the root system for such monsters... still, gotta wonder :twisted:

I may try 2x 600watters over 6x plants... This is a work in progress :blsmoke:
(BTW, I know it would be better to run 3x stink units, but alas I can only grow 6 plants myself, so I'm trying to max my output from a small number of plants)
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I am using a larger version of the veg unit to flwer and put these two under 12/12 20 days ago. They were 10" when they went in an they are now almost 40". I wasnt paying attenton and figured out yesterday that they had been getting 3000 PPM of the flowering nute mixture from day one. They seem to like it so I am going to keep pumping the nutes to them and see what happens. I dont know what strain they are, I bought a ten pack of mixed feminized seeds, so they could be anything. The second picture is the mother that I am finishing out in dirt. This is only 5 weeks flowering, so whatever they are must be a fast finisher.



 
bigbrew

bigbrew

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mntnvew said:
OK, I am ready to move my clones to my veg unit, I used the stink veg dual container system and put the recommend nutes in and my Hanna GroCheck is flashing 2000 PPM (that is it's limit, as it is for my veg, I thought one that went up to 2000 PPM would suffice).

What did I do wrong? I added the exact recommend VEG nutes and then set the pH. The PPM flashed around 1400-2000 for a spell when I first inserted probes but then it just started flashing 2000 PPM (which manual says that it is OVER GroCheck limit).

How do I lower PPM? What if I wanted to higher it, hypothetically, in the future?

THANKS et al!
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Mtn,

FYI when using the TDS meter, if its over 2000ppm and you want to know exactly what the reading is, simply measure out 1 oz of you nute water with 1 oz of distilled/RO water, then double. It doesnt have to be an entire oz, just as long as you mix equal parts. So if you do this and end up with a reading of 1300 ppm that means your nute solution is 2600 ppm because you mixed 1oz 2600 ppm with 1 oz 0 ppm.

Does that make sense? Hope this helps.
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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i dont use light movers.........i just have everything in a 10 x 12 room...........the 12 part i have 2 600 and 1 400 the 10 side i have a 400 and a 600(want to add another 400 or switch a 400 to a 600 but ill have heat issues since none are air cooled)
have 2 units with 10 plants in each (5 per rail) under each 600
i have 5 dwc units under the 400 with the extra light hitting the sides of the 2 600 for better light coverage
im going to be using 2 tough box versions of the veg for a sog flowering grow under the 400 on the other side since i dont have room for the containers since its part of the doorway
i dont have a ppm meter......i use a generator with 2 burners pushing 5.6 cf and run it on a cheap timer......15 minutes 7 times per 12 hours of on
it might be overkill but propane is cheap
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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i was getting .4 with good nutes with dwc but no co2.......so i figure the aero setup with co2 is about 3x the yield of that setup
running coco i use to get .3 so this is way better
when i weighed my last 3 batches it was beyond belief.......
i think co2 when at high levels is 30 to 40% increase in size
i use the generator since i would be going through a tank a week with the air option
 
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