infrared police helicopters

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
I Only run T5s for a reason. LED lighting is supposed to be great for heat. When I make the switch I'll let you guys know how much heat comes off them. My T5s run way cooler than any HPS or MH. Where I live, I have to take every precaution I can. I can't afford to lose my house, so the less heat sig I have the better, no matter what. I just can't risk anything.

Like I said soon to be out with the T5s and in with the LEDs. Although that is a lot of wated money in T5s...If only the wife will let me convert the basement too...
Awww, man... what are you going to do with the T5's? I could use a few!kiss-assI really like the *idea* of LEDs, but they're so freaking expensive! WTF?!

I love my T5. It's on all the time and never even gets warm to the touch.
 

gardenman

Well-Known Member
ya for those of you who don't believe infrared doesn't show through walls you need to go check out youtube and search infrared videos. they have protective film you can cover your room with that is supposed to block it though.
 

ROBINBANKS

New Member
ya for those of you who don't believe infrared doesn't show through walls you need to go check out youtube and search infrared videos. they have protective film you can cover your room with that is supposed to block it though.
yipp its called ANTI DETECTION FOIL.
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
ya for those of you who don't believe infrared doesn't show through walls you need to go check out youtube and search infrared videos. they have protective film you can cover your room with that is supposed to block it though.
Infrared will only show heat that's radiating out from your home, due to poor insulation or heat diffusion.

Infrared cannot see THROUGH walls or ceilings. it is not xray vision, folks.


And actually, aluminum is a great insulator and probably would work for anti-infrared detection because it reflects something like 97% of radiant energy, most of it in the infrared spectrum.
 

ROBINBANKS

New Member
Sometimes they get it wrong, but they are looking !





Police turn up heat on 'cannabis factory' seen by thermal camera ... only to find workshop STOVE When an infra-red camera on the police helicopter identified a suspicious heat pattern coming from Colin Rowe's workshop, officers were convinced it was the site of a cannabis factory.

The culprit - a wood burning stove

Colin Rowe surveys the damage
They obtained the necessary search warrant and forced the door to raid the property while the owner was out.

But instead of finding an illicit drugs operation, the officers discovered nothing more sinister than a wood-burning stove.

The heat source police regarded as highly suspicious was simply a stove used to warm the garage workshop where Mr Rowe restores cars in his spare time.



Not surprisingly Mr Rowe was furious when he returned home to find the damaged door and the warrant, which had been posted through his letterbox without an apology.
'I find it quite disturbing that Wild West Yorkshire Police can do what they want. I think it is disgraceful, I didn't think the police would treat anyone like this without good reason,' he said.

'My dad was a police officer for 40 years and he's disgusted about this.'

College technician Mr Rowe, 41, who has no previous convictions, added:'I think it's a pretty poor way for them to behave given that I'm not the sort of person who's known to the police.'

Commenting on the damage, he said:'There was a big hole in the door which was large enough to get your arm through, the hinges were bent, there were bits of wood on the floor and one of my plant pots was broken.

'There was a brush and shovel right by the door so, if they'd had any compassion, they would have at least swept up the mess.'

Mr Rowe went to his local police station in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, to complain and spoke to the policewoman who applied for the warrant. She said a police helicopter 'had noted the heat source from my home.'

It appears Mr Rowe's sensible crime prevention measures may have also heightened the police's suspicions.

'She said they sent a patrol to my house and found I had bars on the windows at the back. That's to prevent burglary - I don't think it's excessive.

'I've been given a form to claim compensation and I hope the police will pay for the damage.'

A West Yorkshire Police spokesman confirmed officers executed a drugs warrant at 9.45 am last Friday. 'During the execution of the warrant a door to an external building was forced. Officers located no drugs and arrangements were made for the door to be left secure.

'No entry was made by officers into the main house itself. It is standard policy that we will pay for repairs in such circumstances and we would be happy to discuss any concerns Mr Rowe has.'

Mr Rowe shares the house with wife Beth, a 40-year-old health visitor. The door has cost £200 to repair and he has had to take time off work because of the police raid.

He said he had taken a car restoration course and enjoyed doing DIY jobs in the workshop at the back of the garage. Mr Rowe said police sent to investigate his premises claimed they could smell cannabis at the back.

They were also suspicious that he had bars on the windows, which were painted so no one could see inside.

'That's because I have expensive tools in there and it's a sensible crime prevention measure,' he said.

'I was astonished they carried out this raid, I don't see how they had sufficient evidence to get a search warrant.'
 

SableZen

Well-Known Member
'I was astonished they carried out this raid, I don't see how they had sufficient evidence to get a search warrant.'
I don't grow indoors - but that kind of story still makes me angry. Regardless if it's happening in the UK or the US or anywhere where liberty is *supposed* to be an inalienable part of life and held in highest regard. Especially within the sanctity of the home.

In the first place, who the hell is signing no-knock search warrants on homes with nothing more than the heat signature coming from a small wood-burning stove? And the law enforcement officers that stated they smelled marijuana in the backyard? They just proved themselves to either be dangerously incompetent, or just proved they have no problem with providing false testimony. Sickening.

When are people going to wake up and realize that the pay-off for a war on drugs is nothing more than organized crime, crowded prisons, ruined lives, and the loss of basic rights? I know I'm preaching to the choir here - but it's almost maddening how everyone's constitutional rights have been subverted up to this point.

Sorry to rant here - just had to let off some steam. :cuss:
 

CrackerJax

New Member
You are right there, but they don't know how many plants you have until your door is kicked in. If you give off enough of a signature, you stand the chance of being targeted at some point.

That guy with the stove had ZERO plants, and yet.....
 

deh

Active Member
Twice a year we are visited by the Porkchoppers, In this case Coast Guard , they will circle within a circle for approx 2 hrs then move on. Then we also have Black Huey's That seem very specified on what they are looking at..Narcotic Team most likely. But every year my kids take pics and wave at them.:roll:
 

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CrackerJax

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here it's the Fish and Game boys who carry the FLIR. You can see the equipment on both sides of the chopper. The only good thing is they make such a low sound (the blades), I can hear them coming three minutes ahead of time
 

deh

Active Member
I mean really this is a big ole chopper and its a loud ass thing as well i mean u can feel the compression when its low its wierd but ive never grown b4 so ive never thought about them b4 now u guys got me thinkin, if The Coast Guard is doing this, isnt that Federal? I'm legal by law but u know feds somethin differant.
 
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