AK-47 (3 Weeks) with pic's (QUESTION)

[joweed]

Sup community, my 2 ak47 plants have 3 weeks old since seed.

Is it normal that they stay at this size by this age?

They are in 18/6 cycle, 28-30 ºC (day) / 25-26 ºC (night).

My pH goes around 6.2 / 6.7 ...
and now, one of them is curling up the leaves and some kind of brown points (magnesium?)






Peace,

 

[Top 44]

What kind of light and how far away is it?

 

[tokin24/7]

water, ventilation, or light

 

[joweed]

I used to water them when I feel they are dry by putting 1cm my finger into soil. I used 1l of water for this bottles of (5l) is that enough?

my light is HPS 250W

Whats wrong with this grow?

 

[Top 44]

HPS spectrum is around 2200k (unless your using a hortilux type bulb), which works best for flowering. For vegetative growth you want Metal Halide (5500k) or 6500k Fluorescents. For vegging those 2 little plants I'd ditch the HPS and buy some cheap CFL's or a T5 and get em real close to the tops, like 2 -4 inches above. When they get bigger and you repot them, add some Perlite to your soil.

 

[Defcon9]

They also look tall and lanky. Like top 44 said, keep the hps for when you flower and get a better Veg light. T5 High Output lights are really good for vegging.

 

[Boneman]

I would transplant them into bigger pots, give them 1/2 strength nutes and make sure the nute mix is ph'd to 6.5. Also throw in a flouro or two if you got them.

 

[joweed]

Where can I get those CFL's or a T5? and how much cost them?



... but y'all think this could be the type of light influencin this slow grow?

 

[1st time]

bro if yoour using tinfoil around your plants it can actualy overhaet and retard the growth as well as if light refracts the spectrum and focuses on a certian spot on your plants it can actually burn them right through.. just a thought.... good luck

 

[bluetick]

I think what Boneman said is ok, but I don't see what size pots those are. You can start out in a 16 oz cup for a while though. I'd for sure not use clear containers to grow in because if the lights hit the roots, which they are or will, they won't like it so much and die. Unless you have it covered with some kind of sleeve so the light is blocked to the roots. Seem small to me but yea give it some good nutes if you have them. Alaskan fish ferts are sold I think at Lowes or Home Depot if you have nothing else. You can get some nutes from Fox Farms at your nearest location too. Grow Big is a good nute and not too strong either. Give it 1/2 strength to full strength depending on what strain you are growing and how it takes to the nutrients. The Grow Big is not so strong it should burn your plants and the Alaskan fish emulsion can't burn it.

Take them out of clear containers or put on a sleeve to them and give it some nutes, fresh air and exhaust the air. Should be ok.

 

[Defcon9]

Where can I get those CFL's or a T5? and how much cost them?



... but y'all think this could be the type of light influencin this slow grow?

CFLs you can get at Home Depot, WalMart, Lowes any big box store. If you get T5s, see if you can get high output. They are amazing lights. I get mine at my local hydroponics shop. Here, a 2 foot T5 is $35 CDN, a 3 foot is $37 CDN and a 4 foot is $40 CDN. I use Sunblaster brand and they have amazing results. CFLs are a lot cheaper though. Personally I'd rather use T5s.

 

[joweed]

Really nice help im having here

So, I decided to update my spot as y'all said, I found one old Philips fluor light like you see in the picture above, what y think about this? better?





have you noticed my 2 leaves (in both plants) are bending up and some points (not black but a green very dark, and it also feels DRY as fuck) I dont know why but I had this problem everytime, I dont know what I done wrong.

 

[msgmehere1]

From the grows that i have seen started with HPS and finished with HPS, your grow may not be as large as with MH and a Veg phase. HPS from seed can be used for SOG or if you can only grow a plant that can only get a few feet tall. But then again, this is also determined on strain and veg/flower characteristics.
what light cycle do you have them on? 24/0, 18/6, 16/8, 12/12,....?
Your plants are streatching quite a bit, i assume you had the HPS light up to high and then lowered to a few inches above the plant as the first set of leaves started to grow (which could have caused shock or instant leaf burn).
Now that you're using Floro's, I'd say you may experience a stunt in growth for a few days since the spectrum has changed and that there is a dramatic loss in light (floro's will put out less light than HID lights).
The floro's might help to eliminate some of the possible heat factors and allow your plant to veg with the proper spectum (yet you can still veg small plants under HPS under 12/12), but without anyone knowing your exact setup, it's all speculation.

 

[msgmehere1]

also, depending on the breeder, AK-47 should start to have 3-5 sets of true fan leaves by this time. That is if your day 1 is germinating the seed, day 2 or 3 put it in dirt, day 4 or 5 the plant begins to push out of the dirt....

 

[joweed]

From the grows that i have seen started with HPS and finished with HPS, your grow may not be as large as with MH and a Veg phase. HPS from seed can be used for SOG or if you can only grow a plant that can only get a few feet tall. But then again, this is also determined on strain and veg/flower characteristics.
what light cycle do you have them on? 24/0, 18/6, 16/8, 12/12,....?
Your plants are streatching quite a bit, i assume you had the HPS light up to high and then lowered to a few inches above the plant as the first set of leaves started to grow (which could have caused shock or instant leaf burn).
Now that you're using Floro's, I'd say you may experience a stunt in growth for a few days since the spectrum has changed and that there is a dramatic loss in light (floro's will put out less light than HID lights).
The floro's might help to eliminate some of the possible heat factors and allow your plant to veg with the proper spectum (yet you can still veg small plants under HPS under 12/12), but without anyone knowing your exact setup, it's all speculation.

I used 18/6 250w HPS, and yes someday I try to approximate the light to the plants coz I was frustrated to know my plants are not growing, but that didnt do nothin at all.
Sometimes my temperature hits 31 ºC.
Now with fluoro it stays on 24/25 ºC. Do y think im gonna see changes fast using fluor? Im gonna try 20daylight/4night cycle at this time

 

[cosmofraek]

I used 18/6 250w HPS, and yes someday I try to approximate the light to the plants coz I was frustrated to know my plants are not growing, but that didnt do nothin at all.
Sometimes my temperature hits 31 ºC.
Now with fluoro it stays on 24/25 ºC. Do y think im gonna see changes fast using fluor? Im gonna try 20daylight/4night cycle at this time

change it to hydro.
4 weeks and im ready to clone.
that seedling looks like it's been stretched.
fill up the pot with more soil

 

[msgmehere1]

keep your light cycle consistent. if you keep changing it daily, you're going to stress the plant out. keep your current cycle 18/6. 85-86 degrees F isn't that bad. you'll find that people grow up to 90-96F with marginal results, but the plants still live.
what type of air circulation and ventilation you have?
you'll need to wait a few days, if not a week or so to see any true improvement. It's a plant, if it's shocked you will have to wait a while for it to resume it's growth cycle. if you've ever grown anything before, if you cut it, over water it, over feed it, let it dry out, to much heat, to cold.... it can take a while for it to recover from the shock it has experienced once you start really taking good care of it and observing it.

I'd also take a look at other grow journals and see what works and what doesn't with Floros. You'll find that there are common factors that get results.

Keep a good eye on the plants over the next few days. Monitor growth. With Floros you won't need to water but every 4-7 days, this also depends on the humidity and other factors.

 

[joweed]

Hm, ok, Ill let she stays on 18/6 cycle..
One thing I forgot to say is that my seed taked 1 day to germinate, the next day I did put them in soil and 2 days after they were super thin and high searching for light, can be that one of the problem of this retarded grow, not meaning the over heating and any other common problems?

peace

 

[msgmehere1]

Hm, ok, Ill let she stays on 18/6 cycle..
One thing I forgot to say is that my seed taked 1 day to germinate, the next day I did put them in soil and 2 days after they were super thin and high searching for light, can be that one of the problem of this retarded grow, not meaning the over heating and any other common problems?

peace

well the only reason why it would be so tall right out of the dirt would be that your light was to high up. it wouldn't be a heat issue.
hopefully you'll see some results by next Tuesday. just keep an eye on it.

 

[Quickee]

i wanna grow ak so bad..but every seed company i see only has autoflowering