Obama ... He's Lookin' Good!

TheDemocrat

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Change has a considerable psychological impact on the human mind. To the fearful it is threatening because it means that things may get worse. To the hopeful it is encouraging because things may get better. To the confident it is inspiring because the challenge exists to make things better.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Ok been offline for a few days so havent gotten to resopnd.....lets go back
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Well lets go down the list. By his action(maybe he knew maybe he didnt) but lowering your head below the shoulder height and not looking eye to eye is a custom to show submission and when he did that countries like Iran and other middle eastern countries started immediately testing him and calling him a blatant liar as they knew he would back down so there's one.
Bowing is a sign of respect, exactly the same as a handshake in the west is. When you shake someones hand, are you showing them submission? (if you noticed, Obama was also shaking the Kings hand while he bowed). Regardless, what's the difference between showing the Saudi King respect and showing the British Queen respect? Why don't you just come out and say it? We all know what it is.......

Wrong you apparently do not know the difference in meanings from european and arab countries. Just like in most places its ok to shake with your left hand b ut in some countries its and insult as thats the hand you wipe your ass with and considered an insult. In those islamaic middle eat nations the bow is not just a greeting. there are stages of bowing and hieghts depending on class and rankings. there a bvow with no eye contact lower then the shoulders of the kind is considered a lower class submission gesture showing you are bebeath or in an agreed submission to the royalty. Means not equal lesser then not as good or as important. Obama knew this but submitted willingly and they know he knew so he openly said I am below you and at your service or not as powerful or equal to you.. That was embarassing. In europena culture the bow is the accept way to say hello or how do you do ina friendly non agressive formal mannor... soo now what were ytou thinking in your head? just say it as i said what i was saying quite clear. Different cultures have different interupitations..


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To be the president of the United States in front of the world means you have to project yourself as strong and firm. You have to be decisive and make sure when you do something you do it fully. Other countries look at the US and if we faulter the world flinches prime exaple our current econoimic downfall which yes since Obama took office has increased dramtiucally into a free fall with his un thought through errant spending has caused other countries economies to slow and recess.
The economic collapse has nothing to do with how Obama is projecting himself. Economic growth doesn't depend on single individuals, even when that single individual is the president.

Well yes it does. Obama has already established himself as the largest spending president in US History and is on track to attempt to turn the Un ite States in to a Socialistic governement society which anyone with a basic knowledge of history will know it will not work it will failo. We have had years of watching other countries try it and all fail. They have already sent messages to the president and his staff letting him know how big of a mistake it would be to try this way of life as they survived it and it almost killed them and tore thier countries apart.Being president he putrs into motion his wants or beliefs not the peoples he is responsible for making the budget and the restrictions he is the sole responsible one so everytime he tosses money at a worthless idea he shows he has no clue and no financial knowledge. Just look what he did as a senator. Illinois is the second worse off state in the union while he and his democrate croonies rule. The state is to be 18 billion in debit by 2010. He couldnt figure that out in 1 state let alone 50 states.His vote record was horrible. he has never held a non political job in his life not one so he has no connection with the real working class no idea. And this shows everytime he makes a move as they are all bad and unthought.

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we are the world thermometer if we go cold the world follows as we buy and trade with most countries if we stop buying thier economy slows and they loose jobs and it's a chain reaction. Obama by his decisions has shown he is not capable of financially sound decisions and even china had to directly tell him to stop devaluing the dollar or china would withdraw its financing they have with the US as they would cash in thier entire money market which would cripple the US.
I agree with that.


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Next like I said Isreal is just a stepping stone we keep for our needs nothing more. We do not care who is right or wrong but why would we back palastein who will loose and has less to offer us that ones is simple.
It's all about American interests, exactly right.


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Now you ask about nuclear war.. well if you have kept up you knopw that North Korea has broken the nuclear talks agreement which the US helps keep sanction and has declared no us or foreign ship in North Korea or disputed waters would be allowed and would be fired on. Along with testing prohibited nuclear war heads and medium range missles to show now they do not fear the new US control ie Obama and his staff.
The North Koreans were doing the exact same stuff before Obama became president. Defying western warnings and firing and testing their rockets anyway. Is the logic that if the North Koreans perceive Obama as weak, they'll be free to unleash their warheads on the rest of the world and Obama will just back down and not do anything about it? If North Korea launched a warhead at another country in an act of agression, all this economic shit, all the major stuff going on in the middle east, all of it would be rerouted to handle this new situation, as it would be exponentially more important to the rest of the world. Even if, which is a BIG IF, the North Koreans perceive Obama as weak, that doesn't change what the US government would do in retaliation to an act like that. Underestimating your enemy is one of the worst mistakes a leader can make.

Heres the big thing youy miss. You assume Kim is a sane rational individual. he is a crazed rat backed in the corner in bad health with a nation that is starving and because of his direct actions in a communistic freefall.. He has nothing to loose and does not care.He did not test nuclear warhead in the past under any president. He made minor saber rattles about development but knew he had limits. With Obama even as vice president Biden said from day one "They will test the new president and push him to the max to see what they can do against this new president with no history to scare them" Biden stated that right after election and was right evcery country is testing Obama and fully and he is failing. Now yeah if Kim launched there would be no choice but to react. The US, England, And China would remove that country from the map but Kim would set his 6 or so nukes off. London gone, japan Gone, Paris Gone, Hong kong Gone. he would die but as a crazy man his actions would be felt after his death. Its not a sane normal humane your dealing with so you have to factor that...


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Obama has said for them to stop or more sanctions and other options will be exercised. You tell me if we make any advancement on North Korea Kim will not launch his new weapons.
What legal authority do we have to make any advancement on North Korea other than sanctions? What kinds of benifits would Kim Jong Ill receive after he launched a warhead? What would be in it for him? Why would he do it?

Again a rat backed into a corner with no out doesnt care. Kim would gain nothing other then making his countries presence known. Again he is not a sane person and if you feel boxed in with no option but death anyways and you have a way to take some out with you he will do it its not a good decision but he is not a good man.


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He may only hit our coasts but will destroy our closer allies making a loing war we now would be in.
North Korea does not have the technology to strike out western coast, the farthest they can reach is Alaska or Hawaii. Also, one warhead would not completely destroy any of our allied countries, it would take a lot more than that.

Lat time I checked Alaks was our westcoast state and Hawaii was a western US state so you he can hit the west coastal area. Granted he would only kill a few million US citizens but should we not care? He can hit London easily those few million impacted english arent real? paris few million french dead but not impoirtant? The country of Japan removed? Not important? how do you right off the millions that would be killed by any nukes he launched as not enought to worry about. lets assume he has 6-8 nukes as expected. that 6-8 million deaths ina few minutes. You think that would not get a reaction? As soon as he did all target countries would return fire. North Korea would be a memory and worse maybe south Korea too from raditaion overflow.So yeah few million dead in each allied country is a big deal. image LA or NY gone leveled in seconds thats not a reason to worry about the retard with the buttons


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As we are busy there and in afgahanastan and elsewhere that leaves Iran who already talked smack about Obama being a fake who wants to trick the muslim nations into a divide to complete thier nukes and begin do as they have threatened.
Well, 57% of the Muslim world approved of his speech in Cairo, so I'd say more Muslims agree with Obama than agree with Ahmadinejad...,. And since we know most muslims do not report to polls and or have a true access to speak freely what is that number really? A gustinmate since there is no way to get a real count and the presidents of these countries want Obama away as they say he is a false profit who lies to divide. So pretty much what I have said and reiterated is true and is everyday knowledge like it or not we are in trouble and the longer we have the current administaration the further down we go.. We have to make sure in 4 years he out and that it is not to late to stop what he has done.


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Now 2 nuclear powers with no cares at open war the US in the middle.. yeah thats a pretty good thing to call a nuclear world war. Once Korea launches china will have no choice but to launch. Thius is a fact of what is happening today in the world it is not made up. Kim is a nut job and if he follows history as it looks he is. he will start this new war hopeing it will gain his country respect and fear and then he already taped his youngest son to be his successor and give this credit to his son to establish him as anew power to be respected just as Kims father did right before turning power over to him.
Dude, think of the reprocutions of declaring war with the United States. No nation on this planet is capable of defeating our military, and they all know that. History lesson, when was the last time a nation declared war on the United States first?

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Now on the bow yeah he can bow to the queen as its different in european culture its a sign or respect and friendly gesture in the arab nations its a submission to the power that be ie the king that your are acknowledging your are below him and will do as he asks..that is common knowledge way different and Obama should have known thatas they teach this to all presidents before these type of meetings
A bow is a sign of respect, that's it.
 
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PadawanBater

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Filthy, a few things about your post.

- NK does not have 6-8 nuclear warheads that are ready to launch. They do not have the technology to reach Paris, London or any part of the continental US. The missiles they've been test firing can only reach as far as Japan.

- What kind of sense does it make to start a course of action (launching nukes at the rest of the world) that would completely obliterate your nation when you have much more important things to lose. You've already acknowleged that KJI named his son as his successor, so why would he openly bring that kind of domination down on his own people and his own son? Just cuz he's crazy and he wants to go out with a bang and take as many 'enemies' down with him, when he can't even reach the distances your talking about? That doesn't make any sense.

He may be crazy, but he's not stupid. He knows exactly what would happen if he innitiated some kind of act of agression.
 

Babs34

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if you were not religious yourself you would be able to look at the situation much differently all this muslim talk is not based in reality. clearly the propaganda machine is working feel free to do your own research on the muslim religion and the original teachings of islam you will find that what your told by the right and the media is not the truth at all.
Racer, I don't even want to admit to how much I HAVE studied this religion--it's almost embarassing. '
I studied the actual quran and hadiths....there's no propoganda there. And certainly, I have also studied the Bible and dabbled into beliefs of other religions.
Anything I have stated regarding their beliefs is NOT propoganda.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
North Korea is all but confirmed to have enough yellow cake uranium to make at least 6-8 war heads but we are not for sure if they have made the war heads or just in the process of finishing them but we know they are making them from the steam from thier nuclear sites that were to be vacant but are shoing signs of use for refining the uranium.It also has been confirmed that the misles they have been expirementing with are medium range missles meaning they can hit paris and london and alaska so they are capable of such launches. ..Now your second part about what sense does it make..none.. thats the issues. He basically is tired of being haulted and embargos put against him as the country is starving and hurting so his rational is to step up press the world and those who impose these on them meaning the US is a big one. If China didnt allow them to get food from them North koreas population would starve. His annointment of his son is a transitional thing since he had a stroke a few months ago he is hiding he doesnt want it seen as a weakness so by passing to his son as his successor when he is gone he establishes a famly legacy before he can not. Then he pushes to get embargos releases by flexing a new nuclear power and then that credit goes to his son insuring his son is trusted and liked by the people as he will be seen as the leader who helped his country in these hard times. Now if things go wrong on this flex he will do something dumb and push to hard which would mean if we stopped ships coming in or board NK ship for inspection he has said he will fire as he has declared South Koreas stance wit the US a declaration of war. he fires on one ship we respond and he feels war is what is the enevitable he will go to stand by with launch rather then his family be disgraced and removed and tried. he would have nothing to loose. death by tribunal or death during battle defending his country.. he is retarded and very stupid
 

bicycle racer

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north korea wants attention there not a religious state so getting destroyed is not there purpose they use missile launches and threats as ways to manipulate there agendas. i think them directly attacking the us or anyone else is unlikely.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
unlikely but very possible if pushed hard enough as Kim thinks Obama is a lesser threat for military action then Bush. Bush was percieved as the motherfucker you didnt mess with as he was crazy enough to respond balls out.
 

tipsgnob

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lets attack north korea...they can put 4 million soldiers on the ground and we have a hard time getting 130,000 together. and the last we fucked with them it ended in a draw and we lost 50,000 men. lets start the draft back up and make all these chicken shit kids join the military. or........ how about a preemptive nuclear strike....yeah that's it... lets nuke em.....all that obama has to do is pull the trigger.....boommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Obama wont pull the trigger he'd pay someone to do it while tossing money out his helicopter windows as he presses it on his printer.. money is no object and socialism is his prefered method....
 

TheBrutalTruth

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lets attack north korea...they can put 4 million soldiers on the ground and we have a hard time getting 130,000 together. and the last we fucked with them it ended in a draw and we lost 50,000 men. lets start the draft back up and make all these chicken shit kids join the military. or........ how about a preemptive nuclear strike....yeah that's it... lets nuke em.....all that obama has to do is pull the trigger.....boommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
50,000 against what, over 2 Million combined North Korean and Chinese Casualties?

Though the real question is would China step in again?

Besides, in 5 years the military might just send in droids when it goes to war... and when it has to handle with the civil unrest caused by their imbecilic socialist policies that are not going to help the economy.
 

bicycle racer

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man so the bush admin could do no wrong? if your going to be on obama this bad i hope you were as vigilante and critical with regards to the bush/cheney presidency's various epic failures. im no huge supporter of anyone or 1 party in particular but man it is one sided with so many on riu if you think american politics is purely 1 side right 1 side wrong then your at a real loss for the truth and perpetuate the problem.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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man so the bush admin could do no wrong? if your going to be on obama this bad i hope you were as vigilante and critical with regards to the bush/cheney presidency's various epic failures. im no huge supporter of anyone or 1 party in particular but man it is one sided with so many on riu if you think american politics is purely 1 side right 1 side wrong then your at a real loss for the truth and perpetuate the problem.
What does Bush have to do with Obama's idiotic policies?

Bush was an idiot, but seeings as how he's no longer in power his idiocy is of limited relevance.

Unfortunately it is impossible to undue the damage done to the country until one stops allowing the government to do further damage. You can not deconstruct a pyramid by starting at the bottom and working up, you start at the top and work down. Well, I supposed you could start at the bottom but you would probably not like the results.

First you have to stop the idiot that is in power, then you can worry about correcting the mistakes of the past idiots.
 

bicycle racer

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im very much awake. i was not on these threads when bush was in power so i dont know what responses his policys were receiving and im not going to go through 100s of pages to find out. i just hope people were as outspoken and angry about that mess as they are about the new mess. because let me say that everything including the economy was tanked before obama was in office anyone who feels the world has only begun to end with obama is either very religious or delusional. yes there absolutely has been alot of knee jerk reactions what do you expect bush was one of the worst presidents in us history. what is to be expected utopia in 100 days i mean really yeah hes a politician(obama) but so is mcain and ron paul had no chance in our pseudo democracy anyways. as i have said before the repubs elected obama two years ago through there failures so here we are. i just feel people need to recognize the big picture and not only focus on the present with out being aware of prior consequences that affect policies now.
 

Droski7

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Obama in no way is doing good whatsoever, he is leading this country down the drain, and it is scary. between national health care gas prices, extra taxes, things are really getting fucked. Taking over the auto industry. He sucks and is going to suck, and run us into something worse than the great depression.
 

CrackerJax

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Whatever anyone's feelings for Bush were, it is no reason to vote in someone who is throwing away our wealth. Bush was not up for reelection, so any protest vote was cemented in ignorance and immaturity.
 

tipsgnob

New Member
I voted for president obama and I am proud of it.....he has one hell of a mess to clean up, but he will getter done.........:)
 
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