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Cyproz

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See now thats stereotyping, cause if you told me you had a 12" shit i would laugh and congratulate you. the whole world just assumes shit about our country. SHould i tell jews not to go to germany cause they are all nazis? Should i tell people not to go to england unless they want to have tea time? should i tell people not to go to asia cause they sneak dog and cat into your food? should i tell people not to go to africa cause youll get AIDS there? no. Sry that we are on top, far as countries go in todays day. We will eventually fall and then the rest of the world can hate on a different country for being the biggest, richest one. In alot of ways we are the GHS of the world. We are in no way perfect, i hate my government, but love what my country should be.
 

bicycle racer

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google the original origins of skunk#1 and also northern lights there american strains i dont care which seed bank sold them first to the public. the original seeds/cuttings were from the states.
 

CaGeD

Active Member
iv'e got to say first off i like america. but can you see why most of the world doesn't? if i said to you guys i had a 12" shit this morning an american will have to come on and say " yeah but you should have seen the one i did it was bigger" not everything in america has to be bigger/better. i concede that there is probably some great weed in america. but where do you think most of your strains came from? i love england but i'm honest enough to admit that some things about our country isn't the best. you americans could gain from using a little bit of humilty sometimes. by the way northern lights and skunk #1 are both dutch in origin. FACT!
Tell me about the "Mid West American Indica" that is the base of Northern Lights and a few other strains.
 

steve1978

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i agree with you. i like america. i like what you stand for, you abolished slavery you bought democracy to the world, (even those who didn't want it) i'm not having a go at americans here but it would be nice to sometimes hear someone american look at what amsterdam has done for cannabis culture and say "fair play". all i'm getting at is these breeders in holland have been doing it for 20 years and in my experiance the more you do something the better you get. what do you think?
 

pinkus

New Member
stable or not i would rather grow elites f-1's or s-1's of new fresh cali strains that are simply superior
do you think living in cali you really have a good perspective? Spain is the New amsterdam as much as Cali is. Cali does have GREAT weed. But do you really think you even COULD be aware of anyplace as much as were you live. Plus Cali is "wired" media wise, in other words it's hype machine. Viva Espana! Mandala, Serious and a few others have made the move.
:peace:

India probably has better weed too....:hump:
 

bicycle racer

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i use to think holland was the end all be all to weed then i went there a number of times and realized thats not the case. this is not a issue of me thinking calis the best based on pride and all that crap as i dont care about things like that. its just the truth right now at this point in time there is a bigger cannabis industry in cali than anywhere else in the world currently. within 10 square miles i could pick up hundreds of strains and dozens of different clones. i have grown a number of strains from overseas and was not impressed as an example i grew mandalas hashberry recently supposed to be good. high times had it as a top ten in 07 i was expecting something good it sucked compared to whats locally available. alot of the strains praised as some of the best elsewhere sell at dispensaries at a mid to low level price range.
 

Cyproz

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i agree with you. i like america. i like what you stand for, you abolished slavery you bought democracy to the world, (even those who didn't want it) i'm not having a go at americans here but it would be nice to sometimes hear someone american look at what amsterdam has done for cannabis culture and say "fair play". all i'm getting at is these breeders in holland have been doing it for 20 years and in my experiance the more you do something the better you get. what do you think?
yes i agree, Amsterdam has done a ton for the cannabis society. and yes they have been working for more then 20 years openly. But that doesnt mean there werent people here working for the last 30 years in secret for fear of our corrupt government throwing them in jail. I still have yet to visit amsterdam.
 

danrasta

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yes i agree, Amsterdam has done a ton for the cannabis society. and yes they have been working for more then 20 years openly. But that doesnt mean there werent people here working for the last 30 years in secret for fear of our corrupt government throwing them in jail. I still have yet to visit amsterdam.
You still have yeo vist amsterdam but yet you come on here and tell everyone that america better weed this is the second thread ive seen you come and talk shit on people threads when basically you havnt a clue what your talking about!
 

Cyproz

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just because i havent been somewhere doesnt mean i dont know whats there and what they have. I bet Russia has snow and ive never been there. I dont need to go to amsterdam to know whats there. I dont know if you've heard of the internet but it informs you on alot of things without having to travel across the globe. and if all the people in amsterdam are america hating assholes then maybe i dont wanna go.
 

danrasta

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Yea exactly forums where people like you come and talk shit and give people false information when they have no experience!
 

trapper

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Why do you think no cali dispensery stock any of GHS strains? No serious growers grow his strains for a reason. His strains are good, but not impressive at all. New growers are often impressed with GHS and often jump to there defense, I believed the hype to, but after I grew there genetics I thought they were average and the plants didn't match the descriptions at all.
natrone who the hell do you consider a serious grower.and cyproz show me your plants you grew of elites what was the end result.i can post pics and have of my ghs.
 

Cyproz

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no experience, when have you been to my house and i was unaware? and what makes me believe you have experience because you've been to Amsterdam or have grown successfully? are you a well known breeder? i have never heard of danrasta seed company before. fucking pot calling the kettle black. Just because you have a grow journal doesnt make you experienced.
 

Cyproz

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its alright guys you stock up on those GHS seeds and enjoy them, they will be out of business soon enough. America will take the pot business just like everything else, just wait.

im done peace
 

ONEeyedWILLY444

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dont believe everything you read on the internet. this thread has gotten out of hand. a website made too bring people together is being fucked by bickering. we should all toss what we have in a big pot for the world too share rather than bicker about who has the best or who has done the most. cannabis has got to where it is today by everyone contributing there little piece. you can go backwards and forwards saying we did this and they did that but at the end of the day it all about the finished product. i have never been too amsterdam or cali but i would like too one day,and when i do i would want to try the weed that both supply. but not so i can bicker about which is best, but for my own experience because thats what its about for me not WHO HAS THE BIGGEST BALLS.
:joint::hump::peace:
 

danrasta

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First off i dont have a grow journal and no im not a breeder and far from an exerienced grower, i've never been to your house and by saying you had no experience i meant with amsterdam you've never there but yet you kno america has better weed, i've been to amsterdam but not to america yet im not gonna say there weed is shit cause i havnt tried it!
 

SpruceZeus

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Okay, so.
This thread is supposed to be discussing GHS, but seeing as it has taken a a sharp right lets see where its going.

Would you cali and amsterdam lovers get upset if i told you that Canada has the best weed in the world. I've never been to cali or holland but i'm making that statement based on the fact that the best weed I've ever smoked is from cananda.

You see what i did there?

You are all doing the same thing when you're making claims about places you've never been.

Regardless as to the origins of the "building block strains" Amsterdam has had accepted cannabis for decades, and in that time have developed laboratorys and a scientific process specific to cannabis, California is still the wild west.
But wait a second, what if i told you that the best weed in the world comes from SE asia. Thailand, cambodia, laos. That is the birthplace of the long fowering sativa, as far as i'm concerned the best kind of weed. But alas, there is such a huge unexplainable market for anything with "kush" in it. That we're seeing alot of heavy indicas storming the market.

When you hear dutch and spannish breeders talk about cannabis, you hear passion in the things they say, their love of the sacred herb comes through when they discuss specific terpenes and cannabinoid profiles (beyond the big 3, THCV is arguably the most psychoactive cannabinoid yet you almost never hear people discussing it) When I hear american breeders talking shop, it almost invariably comes down to "this shit is some big frosty nugz" I mean cmon. Why would I buy an unstable cross of a clone only strain when there are so many amazing strains availible through stable seeds? Why would I order seeds from police state that is the USA when I could be getting them from legitimate breeders who believe in transparancy and doing things above the board?

Cali-fucking-fornia. As I already said in this thread, the world is a whooooooole lot bigger than your backyard. Theres 6 billion some odd people on this planet, but somehow you're the only ones who can grow dope? And don't give me that shit about dutch strains only occupying the lower end of the menus in dispensarys, you know as well as i do that there are a ton of assholes selling their WW as Sour triploid OG Fire lemon Kushberry because a bullshit name fetches alot more skrillah than an old standard does. (nothing to do with quality, everyone just wants the hot new thing)
I defy any of you cali boosters to try some haze and compare that to the commercial indica varietys you folks are so proud of. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised at how good weed can be.
Hell, I'd even put my house strain (hybrid bagseed) up agains any of the so called "elite" cuttings you folks have floating around there.
 

trapper

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is it going to take some poor sod getting beat down in the middle of LA with a reefer in his mouth,stand up dripping blood and broken bones and a police baton through his head and say to the world while having a puff.CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG>trapper.im just playin.Breed on brother and sistas.
 

SpruceZeus

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this thread has gotten out of hand. a website made too bring people together is being fucked by bickering.
:joint::hump::peace:
No worries dude, just a little friendly debate. I think most of us understand that, despite statements to the contrary, the internet is not serious business. A little arguement with the occasional horrible insult never hurt anybody.
 
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