Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[StinkBud]

Great looking setup. I have the similar question, although I was under the impression that the 3rd to 4th week of veg you would be able to determine sex, cut your clones and move them into the flower room. BTW, what kind of lights are you using for all 3 stages and are your roots getting to long?

I've never seen plants show sex in three weeks. It usually take more like 6+ weeks.

It's safe to pull a male out of flower system for the first week. After that the roots all grow together.

I have a plant in flower now that I'm sexing. I put it on the end so it will be easy to watch and remove if needed.

 

[StinkBud]

Thanks Andy, they've been under HO T-5's from the beginning. I'm not as worried about cost as I am about doing the best possible grow (results/cost = value). I might try that as well and use the ballast in my flower room, its a HTG switchable. What do you think?


When should I get rid of the burned leaves?

Also, two of the plants longest roots are almost in the water, what's the protocol for keeping them out of the water?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for the help with light. After 24 hours of 18/6, the two biggest HK grew 1/2" since yesterday. I'm using the little stakes to mark the vertical growth.

Thanks again.

Pull the leaves as soon as they show dead spots. I don't worry about the roots.

You would be better off putting your plants into the flower system with the light set to 18/6. They will grow faster and you won't have to mess with them again.

 

[StinkBud]

Just curious...... have your plans been corrected yet?

I still have to correct some of the mistakes. I forgot some stuff on the flower system too. I need to add fence posts to the parts list and show the lengths.

I've been taking notes while I make my video. The video will actually be more informative than this thread.

I didn't spend much time on the original plans because I didn't think anyone would care.

True story...

I posted the exact same plans, photos and instructions on a local NW growing site. Everyone immediately started bashing it and saying stuff like "I harvest 2 pounds every 2 weeks so you must suck".

I couldn't leave fast enough! I figured the same thing would happen here. Boy was I wrong. Everyone here is beyond cool!

It's like one big family...

 

[Delusional]

yes, definitely good stuff here. good people. thanks again for all the hard work, you've saved me hours of troubleshooting thats for sure! I'll stop back after everythings up and running.

 

[Delusional]

yeah, fence posts too, I saw that.

I was dumb and went out and bought the precut ones... got home only to realize they were a few inches shy of 4'. go figure. had to go back and return them and get the 8'+ lengths and chop them down.

 

[Aeroweed]

Hey Aero - sounds like you are rolling! You may not have to buy another meter... If the meter can display EC - you just need to calibrate it and then use math to do the conversion form ms to PPMs.

I think I goofed... I got the HI 981404N which seems to be PH & PPM only

I'll probably just leave this meter on the cloner, then get something else for the veg unit. I like being able to leave the probes submerged anyway. Do you have a suggestion for a new meter?

I was also wrong about the length of my roots... Some of them are in the freaking water... Gotta move them today

 

[Jagermaster]

So, these plants have been vegging long enough? They've only been under lights for 19 days. Sorry to be a pain in the ass. Just paranoid. What's the benefit of leaving them under the veg light? Better yield? How long is too long?
Thanks again.
Jagermaster.

 

[Delusional]

veg for 3 weeks -> flower

 

[DrunkMonkey]

Great looking setup. I have the similar question, although I was under the impression that the 3rd to 4th week of veg you would be able to determine sex, cut your clones and move them into the flower room. BTW, what kind of lights are you using for all 3 stages and are your roots getting to long?

I have 10,000 lumens from HO FL's on my cloner and 400 MH on my Veg sites. I have two 14-site stands under 1000W for flower, although, i haven't moved anything to flower yet.

I want to address the sex issue first. I was under the impression that you can't tell sex until flower. Can anyone confirm/ shed light on this??? thanks!

 

[DrunkMonkey]

True story...

I posted the exact same plans, photos and instructions on a local NW growing site. Everyone immediately started bashing it and saying stuff like "I harvest 2 pounds every 2 weeks so you must suck".

2 lbs every 2 weeks?!?!? How the heck are they doing that? I've heard from a few sources that 2 or 3 oz per plant was realistic, although, there was no reference to the amount of time the plants were in veg/flower.

With 14 sites being harvested every 3 weeks, it leaves us with a little over an oz per plant, but I figured it was due to the perpetual 3-week cycle (more smaller plants).

What are these criticizers doing differently? Did they say?

 

[DrunkMonkey]

True story...

I posted the exact same plans, photos and instructions on a local NW growing site. Everyone immediately started bashing it and saying stuff like "I harvest 2 pounds every 2 weeks so you must suck".

I was just thinking...is there a quantitative yield measurement out there that's standard among growers? For example, something that takes into account time allotted for veg/flower, total grow space...basically, a measurement that considers all grow variables?

What about yield per cubic foot of grow space per week?

So, in your case, StinkBuddy, if you consider the total space of your Veg and Flower area (was it 2x3x9 closet for cloner and veg and 8x7x9 for flower?), you would have a total of 558 cu/ft Total Grow Space.

16 oz per 3 weeks is 5.33 oz per week yield.

558 cu/ft divided by 5.33 oz per week = 105 cu/ft (for an oz each week)

So, this could be a grower's Yield Efficiency Rating (YER)....yours would be 105. The lower the number, the better you are.

Then, when someone says "i get 2# per 2 weeks", you can derive a true apples-to-apples comparison if you knew their YER.

The next question would be that of Power Efficiency and ROI per..........dude, this is fascinating stuff.

What system is currently used to measure efficiency in these areas??

 

[sparat1k]

Drunk monkey... cool post man, I've been thinking the about the same issues. 1 variable your missing is the number of plants needed to achieve high yields. Its much easier to cram 200+ plants in a sog and come out with big yields but the risks taken with that approach aren't to appealing to me. Ill brainstorm this with you later. Cheers.

 

[repvip]

Go on Fleabay and buy some bubble bags for $50. I use a 4 bag setup.

Put the hash between 2 coffee filters and put that in a towel. Press the water out with your hand. After you get most of the water out roll the hash up into a ball and put it back into the coffee filters and towels.

Now beat the fuck out of it with a rubber mallet! That will press all the water out. Take your disk of hash and put it on a plate to finish drying.

After you have all your hash be sure to play with it like clay. I like to make little hash animals. I always like getting a little head, so I made one out of hash.

...

Use vinyl!

Resin/hash/trichs won't stick to vinyl gloves like they will with latex/nitrile. Invest in a cheap box of gloves. It makes trimming and especially hash-making much cleaner.

You will also be able to hand-squeeze all the water out of your fresh bubble. It will be just like clay at that point. Time to play!

ps - looks like the 90w UFO light is working great. I should really start an LED thread. The 350w panel is also working well. This picture doesn't do the 350w justice--keep in mind the light is ~3' above the canopy and all new growth is being threaded into the screen for scrog obviously. The growth rate itself is less than the 1000w light. However, there is no stretching and very tight internode formation. The UFO is about 18" above the veg unit.

 

[repvip]

I have 10,000 lumens from HO FL's on my cloner and 400 MH on my Veg sites. I have two 14-site stands under 1000W for flower, although, i haven't moved anything to flower yet.

I want to address the sex issue first. I was under the impression that you can't tell sex until flower. Can anyone confirm/ shed light on this??? thanks!

If you are growing from seed for the first time it will take about 6 weeks for the preflowers to show up in 'veg mode'. Male pre-pods show up a few days sooner on average. These typically appear around the 8th node.

Earl has a thread on the topic:
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/38684-micro-sexing-before-taking-clones.html
Earl if you see this--Thanks for all your great posts!

 

[thecholochef]

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True story...

I posted the exact same plans, photos and instructions on a local NW growing site. Everyone immediately started bashing it and saying stuff like "I harvest 2 pounds every 2 weeks so you must suck".

I couldn't leave fast enough! I figured the same thing would happen here. Boy was I wrong. Everyone here is beyond cool!

It's like one big family...

i would like to know what site that was , so i can go thank those morons for sending the answer to my prayers this way!


Chef

 

[thecholochef]

veg for 3 weeks -> flower

seedling = veg for 6 weeks -> flower

 

[Jagermaster]

seedling = veg for 6 weeks -> flower

Chef, Delusional thank you. Hey chef, I'm starting from seeds, would you count 6 weeks from the first two leaves that break the sol or is there some other technical differentiation between seedling and veg?

Thanks a ton (or 32000 ounces)

 

[DrunkMonkey]

Drunk monkey... cool post man, I've been thinking the about the same issues. 1 variable your missing is the number of plants needed to achieve high yields. Its much easier to cram 200+ plants in a sog and come out with big yields but the risks taken with that approach aren't to appealing to me. Ill brainstorm this with you later. Cheers.

What risk are you referring to? # of plants that hit different legal thresholds?

I haven't researched sogs yet

 

[DrunkMonkey]

I've been researching topping and LST. It appears there are positives/negatives to both. Can someone please clarify if these techniques are applicable in StinkBuddy's Aero/NFT system? If so, when? how?

Thanks in advance

 

[bluesmurf]

Use vinyl!

Resin/hash/trichs won't stick to vinyl gloves like they will with latex/nitrile. Invest in a cheap box of gloves. It makes trimming and especially hash-making much cleaner.

You will also be able to hand-squeeze all the water out of your fresh bubble. It will be just like clay at that point. Time to play!

ps - looks like the 90w UFO light is working great. I should really start an LED thread. The 350w panel is also working well. This picture doesn't do the 350w justice--keep in mind the light is ~3' above the canopy and all new growth is being threaded into the screen for scrog obviously. The growth rate itself is less than the 1000w light. However, there is no stretching and very tight internode formation. The UFO is about 18" above the veg unit.

Hey Rep,

For all of us who want to see real LED's in action! Please start the thread!

Thanks!