What is a Plants Food?

[9inch bigbud]

That statement shows just how Ignorant you are.

Dude, Lighting is fucking standard, what are you Slow?

Where does it say in that quote to grow without light, it CLEARLY says to upgrade environment and get everything else the way you want it before adding MORE lights.

Do you not know how to read or are you seriously this ignorant?

Of course theres gonna be a fucking light in the grow room. That isnt a list of REQUIRMENTS its what I think is most important in order of Ungrading your grow room.

Now it seems like your just looking to argue. Seriously, You actually went out of your way to go find that post so you could read it and assume Im saying to grow without light...

Jesus Christ your getting ridiculous.

I have also always said thats my personal opinion.

right im sick of this now if you cant see it then you are stupid

Light is a plants food, nutrients are only building blocks for the plant cells but it is light that provides the energy - so how does it work?
When light falls onto leaves it triggers the process of photosynthesis, which in simple terms is the process of turning light, which is radiant energy, into chemical energy. The amazing process of photosynthesis, turning light energy into chemical energy, is one of nature’s wonders. This energy transfer happens inside the plants cell structures called chloroplasts. The basic components of chloroplasts are individual membranous sacs which contain fats, proteins and pigments (stay with us - it is worth knowing!)
Pigments & Chemical Energy
Pigments play an important part. They absorb light in the photosynthesis process of turning light energy into chemical energy. Chlorophyll, for example, is an important pigment which absorbs red and blue wave lengths. There are different types of pigment and each absorbs different wavelengths of light. The light absorbed by the pigment causes a reaction, which produces chemical energy (it makes electrons out of the light, and the electrons use their charges to make sugar energy for the plant)
For those interested in the current theory of photosynthesis, it works something like this ~ The chemical energy produced by the chlorophyll (pigment) from light is sufficient to split the water molecules apart. This provides units of hydrogen (H) and hydroxide (OH). The hydroxide combines with carbon-dioxide, which is absorbed from the air, to produce carbohydrates, which provides the energy for plant growth. (and you thought there was nothing going on in your plants ~ for more details visit your library!)
So to summarise ~ light falls on the leaves which convert it into electrons and the plant uses these electrons (electricity) to make energy as sugar.

On unarable land, farming is nearly impossible unless more advanced methods of are used. Unarable land usually has no source of fresh water, and is often too hot (desert), too cold (arctic), too rocky, too mountainous, too salty, too rainy, too snowy, or too cloudy. Clouds block the sunlight plants need for photosynthesis (making sunlight into food). The plants starve without light. Starvation and nomadism often exist on unarable land. Unarable land is sometimes called 'wastes'
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Full text of "A primer of botany"


LIGHT.

1. Read the following : —

(1) House plants turn toward the light.

(2) Moulds grow without the aid of light.

(3) Fruits and flowers can develop in darkness.

(4) Green plants directly depend upon light.

(5) Light helps them to make starch.

(6) Without starch green plants starve.

2. Mention the word which is the lesson.

3. What plants live by it ?

4. What plants can live without it ?

5. Are such plants of a high or low order ?

6. Name the parts of a plant which grow to full size with-

out light.

7. What plant food can be made by light only ? Of what

importance is this food? To what sort of plants
indispensable ?

L Without Hg-lit, green plants starve, for tliey manu-
facture starch hy it only.



THE PHYSIOLOGY OF PLANTS. 81

Note. — Plants which get their starch from other plants
can live in the dark. Plants which live upon de-
caying matters grow and perfect fruit in caves and
cellars.


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STARCH.



Make a statement about starch.

What word in the statement names a food ? Write that

word on the board.
Write the name of an article of food containing starch.

How do you suppose the starch came in it?
Why, do you suppose, a plant stores up cupboards of

starch ?

IV. Starch is a plant food. It is made in light, and
the plant lives upon it in darkness. It can be
made in chlorophyll grains only.

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startch is plant food and it is made in the chloroplasts which contain green chlorophyll
molecules and these are the 'engines' which capture light energy, a
process called photosynthesis that make starch that the plant feeds on at night.

prosses called photosynthesis photo meaning light! now if it was carbon why not called carbon
synthesis?

any how thats enough of a biology lesson and your poll means jack shit, fuck all proves nothing other than people do not know what photosynthesis is or how it works.

 

[BCtrippin]

right im sick of this now if you cant see it then you are stupid


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startch is plant food and it is made in the chloroplasts which contain green chlorophyll
molecules and these are the 'engines' which capture light energy, a
process called photosynthesis that make starch that the plant feeds on at night.

prosses called photosynthesis photo meaning light! now if it was carbon why not called carbon
synthesis?

any how thats enough of a biology lesson and your poll means jack shit, fuck all proves nothing other than people do not know what photosynthesis is or how it works.

How long did it take you to copy and paste all that crap?


Dude you have posted the definition of photsynthesis about 20 times thinking it will make a difference. It doesnt change the FACT that Light is not Food in any way.

Light is a form of Energy. Energy can Not be food by definition.

I dont know why you trying to argue that Light is plant food when we all know plants dont even metabolize food of any sort. Its a ridiculous argument and your confusing Analogies with Facts.

Saying "Light is like Plants Food" is how you explain Photosynthesis to a 5 year old. If you talk to a Botanist Im sure they will be happy to explain to you why light can not be food.

Its a ridiculous argument and your wasting your time. No one cares if you think light is plant food but it seems as if you feel the need to "enlighten us" all with your "knowledge". Your acting like Every other grower is a moron because they KNOW light is not food.

 

[BCtrippin]

You need to go back to school, Your clearly not understanding the stuff that your posting.

7. What plant food can be made by light only ? Of what

importance is this food? To what sort of plants
indispensable ?

L Without Hg-lit, green plants starve, for tliey manu-
facture starch hy it only.

Key word is MADE by light. Light is not the food. I dont know why you refuse to comprehend this. Its pretty simple.

Its right there in your own post. They MANUFACTURE the starch which is the food. The light is not the food.

 

[9inch bigbud]

How long did it take you to copy and paste all that crap?


Dude you have posted the definition of photsynthesis about 20 times thinking it will make a difference. It doesnt change the FACT that Light is not Food in any way.

Light is a form of Energy. Energy can Not be food by definition.

I dont know why you trying to argue that Light is plant food when we all know plants dont even metabolize food of any sort. Its a ridiculous argument and your confusing Analogies with Facts.

Saying "Light is like Plants Food" is how you explain Photosynthesis to a 5 year old. If you talk to a Botanist Im sure they will be happy to explain to you why light can not be food.

Its a ridiculous argument and your wasting your time. No one cares if you think light is plant food but it seems as if you feel the need to "enlighten us" all with your "knowledge". Your acting like Every other grower is a moron because they KNOW light is not food.

startch is plant food and it is made in the chloroplasts which contain green chlorophyll
molecules and these are the 'engines' which capture light energy, a
process called photosynthesis that make starch that the plant feeds on at night.

so plants do feed after all on starch wich can only be made by light when light hits the chloroplasts that the plant already has.

I bet your one of the sheep that follow advanced nutrients and believe all the bull shit sales banter and hype that their nutes are better than everyone elses LOL if you wnt bigger bud use more light using more feed and adding all the crap they sell will will not make them grow any bigger than using vitalink A&B.

 

[BCtrippin]

right im sick of this now if you cant see it then you are stupid

Why are you so angry and determined to change everyones mind? Why cant you agree to disagree?

Theres no reason to resort to petty name calling like children because we dont agree on something.

 

[BCtrippin]

I bet your one of the sheep that follow advanced nutrients and believe all the bull shit sales banter and hype that their nutes are better than everyone elses LOL if you wnt bigger bud use more light using more feed and adding all the crap they sell will will not make them grow any bigger than using vitalink A&B.

Why are you so upset? Seriously whats your issue? Must everyone agree with you?

I use AN because their factory is in my home town and I get it dirt cheap.

I dont use their full line up though. Just what I need. NPK and 14 trace elements and nutrients is all you need to grow good weed. I dont need you to start preaching about Nutes now too....

 

[BCtrippin]

so plants do feed after all on starch wich can only be made by light when light hits the chloroplasts that the plant already has.
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Starch is the food. BINGO. Finally your making some sense....Light is not the food, it simply initiates the reaction.

Your are correct that the plants cant create food without light, but that in no way makes the Light the Food.

Light =/= Food. Period. There is no argument.

Light + c02 + H20 -->possessed by chlorophyll = Plants Food.


Saying Light is Plant food would be like saying 1 + 1 + 1 = 1


Plants Also cant create Starch without H20 and Carbon. So saying that they cant create the starch without light is a moot point.

 

[9inch bigbud]

You need to go back to school, Your clearly not understanding the stuff that your posting.



Key word is MADE by light. Light is not the food. I dont know why you refuse to comprehend this. Its pretty simple.

Its right there in your own post. They MANUFACTURE the starch which is the food. The light is not the food.

energy is needed to make things grow like we eat food it makes us grow. light is plant food making it grow all living things use ATP to grow and it needs energy for it to work

The energy released in respiration is used to synthesize ATP to store this energy. The energy stored in ATP can then be used to drive processes requiring energy, including biosynthesis, locomotion or transportation of molecules across cell membranes. Because of its ubiquity in nature, ATP is also known as the "universal energy currency".

The production of ATP using the energy of sunlight is called photophosphorylation. Only two sources of energy are available to living organisms: sunlight and oxidation-reduction (redox) reactions. All organisms produce ATP, which is the universal energy currency of life.
In photophosphorylation, light energy is used to create a high-energy electron donor and a lower-energy electron acceptor. Electrons then move spontaneously from donor to acceptor through an electron transport chain.

for fuck sake im sick of haveing to keep pointing it out to you but then again i would not expect you to thinking the light the plant recives is airLMAF

 

[9inch bigbud]

Starch is the food. BINGO. Finally your making some sense....Light is not the food, it simply initiates the reaction.

Your are correct that the plants cant create food without light, but that in no way makes the Light the Food.

Light =/= Food. Period. There is no argument.

Light + c02 + H20 -->possessed by chlorophyll = Plants Food.


Saying Light is Plant food would be like saying 1 + 1 + 1 = 1


Plants Also cant create Starch without H20 and Carbon. So saying that they cant create the starch without light is a moot point.

look at it this way.

food does not make use grow when we eat the food ATP (or lets put it like this our photosynthesis) turns that food in to energy for us to use and grow with the same thing is what light does to plants.

look at the chloroplast as the plants stomach when light energy hits it it turns it in to ATP and that is energy the plants use to grow.

we need energy in the form of food
plants need energy in the form of light

when food hits out stomach its digested and sent around our body as ATP

when light hits the plant chloroplast its digested and sent around the plant.

light is the food of all life without it nothing would be here so yes plant food it light.

 

[BCtrippin]

for fuck sake im sick of haveing to keep pointing it out to you but then again i would not expect you to thinking the light the plant recives is airLMAF

Why do you keep posting then when you know I dont give a fuck what you say? As far as Im concerned you have no credibility in the subject of plant biology.

The fact that you think light is the food is funny. Its not the food, its the Energy used to create the food. The energy form the light is converted and stored. Food is a "storage device or energy"

Your drawing conclusions dude. Light is not the food, it Becomes the food. I dont know how else to explain in to you.

You should SERIOUSLY go talk to a botanist or a physicist to learn what light is and what energy is because you clearly dont get it.


Its funny because your arguing with Yourself. You keep coming back trying to convince me when I dont give a fuck because I know light isnt food.....

 

[BCtrippin]

light is the food of all life without it nothing would be here so yes plant food it light.

Thats Not a fucking argument. Without Oxygen Life wouldnt be here, without Carbon life wouldnt be here, without H20 life wouldnt be hear.

A lot of life CAN live without light. But it Cant live without Carbon and H20 but that doesnt make H20 or Oxygen a source of Food.


Just because something cant live without it doesnt make it a food source....


Seriously, I dont care what you think, You have zero credibility in the subject of biology now. I dont know why you keep coming back like your so fucking smart with this great profound knowledge that "light is food...."

God Damnit I've never seen such a stubborn person.


I agree that you think light is food for plants or life or whatever... Thats Fine. I dont agree. Ok. Can we leave it at that?

 

[9inch bigbud]

Why do you keep posting then when you know I dont give a fuck what you say? As far as Im concerned you have no credibility in the subject of plant biology.

The fact that you think light is the food is funny. Its not the food, its the Energy used to create the food. The energy form the light is converted and stored. Food is a "storage device or energy"

Your drawing conclusions dude. Light is not the food, it Becomes the food. I dont know how else to explain in to you.

You should SERIOUSLY go talk to a botanist or a physicist to learn what light is and what energy is because you clearly dont get it.


Its funny because your arguing with Yourself. You keep coming back trying to convince me when I dont give a fuck because I know light isnt food.....

if you did not give a fuck why start a new thread about it? trying to make me look a fool then? i dont need to talk to a botanist i have been reading it my self for 20+ years growing years and even longer if you count school years biology lessons. the wonders of books and the internet there really is no need
to talk to someone who get their knowlage from the same book.

 

[9inch bigbud]

Thats Not a fucking argument. Without Oxygen Life wouldnt be here, without Carbon life wouldnt be here, without H20 life wouldnt be hear.

A lot of life CAN live without light. But it Cant live without Carbon and H20 but that doesnt make H20 or Oxygen a source of Food.


Just because something cant live without it doesnt make it a food source....


Seriously, I dont care what you think, You have zero credibility in the subject of biology now. I dont know why you keep coming back like your so fucking smart with this great profound knowledge that "light is food...."

God Damnit I've never seen such a stubborn person.


I agree that you think light is food for plants or life or whatever... Thats Fine. I dont agree. Ok. Can we leave it at that?

no sun no life simple really look it up the earth would be to cold for anything to grow there would be no air no water why do you think there is no life on mars? or the moon ect..?

dont call some one out in the 1st place and then you will get no arguments this is not the 1st time someone has called me out and been shot down you have brought nothing to this debate other than trying to rubbish what i have been trying to say.

 

[mindphuk]

if you did not give a fuck why start a new thread about it? trying to make me look a fool then? i dont need to talk to a botanist i have been reading it my self for 20+ years growing years and even longer if you count school years biology lessons. the wonders of books and the internet there really is no need
to talk to someone who get their knowlage from the same book.

All of your science understanding doesn't do you any good if you can't distinguish between analogy and metaphor with reality and facts.

 

[BCtrippin]

if you did not give a fuck why start a new thread about it? trying to make me look a fool then? i dont need to talk to a botanist i have been reading it my self for 20+ years growing years and even longer if you count school years biology lessons. the wonders of books and the internet there really is no need
to talk to someone who get their knowlage from the same book.

I didnt start a thread to make you look a fool. Read the original post, If I was trying to make you look stupid I could have made it a lot worse.

I dont know what to say.

You seem to refuse to agree to disagree.


To me it seems as if your understanding of the concepts are almost right but somewhat flawed in some areas, thats why I suggested talking to someone who has a proper understanding of the concepts.


Your are correct that the Sun is an Energy source for plants, no one is denying this. But I dont understand why you are so dead set on convincing people that "Light Is Plants Food". Theres a lot more to it then that and just saying "light is plants food" is a Very Very Very basic analogy like what someone would use to explain it to a 5 year old. Well Im not 5 so I understand that light is not actually a food source but rather the energy source for the plants to create food.


You lose credibility when you get heated and start calling people stupid and forcing your beliefs on people. I dont have a problem with you believing what you want. You dont have to agree with me, I have said that form the beggining. But you keep coming back trying to force your opinions on me and I have said it before and Ill say it agian. Light is not plant food.

Now before you come back with another giant post you copy + pasted about photosynthesis, I know how it works. You dont have to agree with what I say.

 

[9inch bigbud]

Thats Not a fucking argument. Without Oxygen Life wouldnt be here, without Carbon life wouldnt be here, without H20 life wouldnt be hear.

A lot of life CAN live without light. But it Cant live without Carbon and H20 but that doesnt make H20 or Oxygen a source of Food.


Just because something cant live without it doesnt make it a food source....


Seriously, I dont care what you think, You have zero credibility in the subject of biology now. I dont know why you keep coming back like your so fucking smart with this great profound knowledge that "light is food...."

God Damnit I've never seen such a stubborn person.


I agree that you think light is food for plants or life or whatever... Thats Fine. I dont agree. Ok. Can we leave it at that?

every living thing needs food look up the food chain even cancer need food to live, viruses ect..every living thing depends on food of some sort or another.

 

[BCtrippin]

every living thing needs food look up the food chain even cancer need food lo live viruses every living thing depends on food of some sort or another.

Wow. Amazing. You were serious when you posted this?

So do you think Oxygen is food? Do you think water is food?

Seriously??

Yes plants create their food. Light is not the food.... I learned this stuff in grade 5. Hell I remember them explaining it on the Magic School Bus. Plants Make their food. This is like grade 5 science.

 

[9inch bigbud]

I didnt start a thread to make you look a fool. Read the original post, If I was trying to make you look stupid I could have made it a lot worse.

I dont know what to say.

You seem to refuse to agree to disagree.


To me it seems as if your understanding of the concepts are almost right but somewhat flawed in some areas, thats why I suggested talking to someone who has a proper understanding of the concepts.


Your are correct that the Sun is an Energy source for plants, no one is denying this. But I dont understand why you are so dead set on convincing people that "Light Is Plants Food". Theres a lot more to it then that and just saying "light is plants food" is a Very Very Very basic analogy like what someone would use to explain it to a 5 year old. Well Im not 5 so I understand that light is not actually a food source but rather the energy source for the plants to create food.


You lose credibility when you get heated and start calling people stupid and forcing your beliefs on people. I dont have a problem with you believing what you want. You dont have to agree with me, I have said that form the beggining. But you keep coming back trying to force your opinions on me and I have said it before and Ill say it agian. Light is not plant food.

Now before you come back with another giant post you copy + pasted about photosynthesis, I know how it works. You dont have to agree with what I say.

if you understand photosynthesiss then you will under stand a plant will starve with out light remember plants feed on startch?

define:starve
die of food deprivation

photosynthesis is turning light energy in to food for the plant to grow its the start everything eles just helps it to grow.

the clue is in the name photo.

I dont understand why you are so dead set on convincing people that "Light Is Plants Food"

probably the same reason your trying to prove me wrong

and im not dead set on convincing anyone you keep coming back with shit to rubbish what i say i come back with what photosynthesis is and what photosynthesis means but you just dont get it = photosynthesis is the process of turning light into plant food.

 

[9inch bigbud]

Wow. Amazing. You were serious when you posted this?

So do you think Oxygen is food? Do you think water is food?

Seriously??

Yes plants create their food. Light is not the food.... I learned this stuff in grade 5. Hell I remember them explaining it on the Magic School Bus. Plants Make their food. This is like grade 5 science.

when someone does not understand or mentally challenged you talk to them in the appropriate manner.

ps
oxygen is made by plants water is need to sustain life and with out it you would die sooner that if you went without food water would not be here if it was not for plants because H2O is 2 parts hydrogen 1 parts oxegen

 

[BCtrippin]

photosynthesis is the process of turning light into plant food.

How can you be so slow? You said it right there in your own god damn post. The process of turning light into plant food. It used the light, H20 and carbon to create plant food.

Light is not the plant food. Light + H2O + CO2 = Plant Food.

Not just Light....Your leaving a huge part of the equation out when you say that light is plant food because light alone is Not plant food.

Your basically trying to argue that 1 + 1 + 1 = 1

in other words plants could not take carbon in, in the 1st place with out the energy from the light, that triggers the start of photosynthesis

Again, in your own words. Light triggers teh start of photosynthesis. Photosynthesis creates the "plant food" Light is not the plants food, its helping to create the plants food.