Mother Plant 2

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coastalhaze

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Ok so after reading the other post about a mother Im still confused. Im getting ready to start my first grow and have been doing some serious research. From everything Ive heard you keep a mother plant in constant vegetative state (18/6 or 24 hours a day) lighting. So to start and keep a mother. Do you...
1)Start my beans
2)Veg under Mh lighting until proper height is reached
3)Switch to hps lighting and change to 12/12 until sex shows
4)Pull the plant I want to use as a mother and revert her back to constant veg lighting?
5)Then take clones?

Or could I just simply take clones off the females Ill be growing 2-3 weeks before harvest and use these?

Thanks to all who reply
 
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Newfriend

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Hi
(I) think the best way is:
Take a clone(s) from your plants befor flowering.
When the sex of your original plant(s) are determinged.
Throw away any males and keep the female clones.
When I have taken clones form a regenerated flowered plant, the clones did not root as well.
By the time the original plants have flowered, harvested and dried, you will be able to take clones from the original clone.
It takes me about 8 10 weeks to be able to get clones from a clone.
Hope this helps.
PS It take me about 9 weeks flowering and 2-3 weeks drying/curing, by then my clones are ready and I can get 10-15 clones of it.
 
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Newfriend

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Hi (Got to get my 2cents in)
When I grow from seed, I always take at least 2 clones from each of them, while in the Veg grow.
Be sure to lable them.
As already stated, when the sex is known, throw away the males.
I don't throw away any of the clones until I finish flowing and know which were the best producers or have the characteristics I want, IE: tall, short etc.
Hope this helps.
Ps: I blant them in 10 gal storage bins from K Mart $4.60 each, the lids make great trays to set them in.
I have 4 mother plants, WW, Sour D, Soma and The Church.
I am continally taking clones looking for the Queen of Queens.
 
jahtrip

jahtrip

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i keep my mother plants for about 1 year then flower them... i like to change variety so i always keep 3 mothers for 1 year ..when i decide to flower them i trim them back ALOT... till only few big branches stay.. the plant doesnt look all that at first but once it begins its flowering it produces MANY VERY BIG buds!!!
if you have any questions on flowering mothers just let me know...
peace
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

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Everything you have listed is right you can get your mother up to a certain height then put it to flower then sex the plant but make sure that you get the males out before pods open.But if you wanted you could plant all your seeds and then take cuttings and then put the plants on flower and root the males out that way.I would take two clone's of each plant just incase one dies if cloned right you should have a good chance of all of them takeing.Then once you have removed the males you could just take clones before budding but don't forget this means that you are going to have to keep them clones for 8 weeks sometimes more depending on strain.But i do think that mother plants are the way to go then you can take plants 3 week before fowering phase ends and put them straight in if you are useing hps lighting in your flowering room you will only have to leave them on flower for2/3 week before you can flower again.Take your clones at the begining of the flowering and you will have to keep them 8 week on veg so you will need a sizeable room to keep them.But the plants can be put straight on flower has soon has the other plants come out.Go with mothers mate it will be less hassle once the mother gets to big just top it or clone a new mother while you start a new bud.
 
jahtrip

jahtrip

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Yes, i flower all my mother plants eventually... infact
I like to keep them as mothers during the winter.... and once summer comes i put them outside to grow even bigger and flower.....
 
hwy420

hwy420

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jahtrip said:
Yes, i flower all my mother plants eventually... infact
I like to keep them as mothers during the winter.... and once summer comes i put them outside to grow even bigger and flower.....
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Great method; that's what I am planning on doing. I only have a little sprout/seedling that i'm planning on taking to mother hood for cloning.


So I keep my Metal Halide running 24/7 nonstop for 2 months?

Any nutrient solution needed to keep them in Vegetative state?
 
jahtrip

jahtrip

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What will keep your plant in veg is not the nutrients your gonna use. its the light cycle...
To keep a mother vegging you got to keep the light on at least 18 hours a day and in darkness for 6.....
Obviously if your gonna be keeping a plant long enough to make it a mother... your either gonna have to keep repotting in new soil, or your gonna have to fertilize with somekind of fertilizer with a higher Nitrogen (N) level than Phosphor (P) and Potasium (K) NPK...
Something like 8-8-10 NPK is not too strong and not too light....

take it easy ... and good luck!!
 
jahtrip

jahtrip

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Oh and you dont wanna keep the light on 24/7... plants grow in the dark cycle... they store energy during the day to grow at night....
So if you wanna have available cuttings from that plant soon you need to give it a night time!! and youll save up on elecricity bill....
18/6 not 24/7 :)



Peaaaace
 
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NegroNinja

Active Member
Zen On Wheels said:
Yes, but for goodness sake, has anyone here flowered a mother plant and lived to tell about it?
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You are the second person to ask this. A "mother" is just a term we applied to a plant in veg that you keep in veg in order to take cuttings as it grows. Why wouldn't you be able to flower a mother?
 
Jables

Jables

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jahtrip said:
somekind of fertilizer with a higher Nitrogen (N) level than Phosphor (P) and Potasium (K) NPK...
Something like 8-8-10 NPK is not too strong and not too light....
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contradiction? you say higher N, but that NPK is pretty even with a higher K rating

jahtrip said:
Oh and you dont wanna keep the light on 24/7... plants grow in the dark cycle... they store energy during the day to grow at night....
So if you wanna have available cuttings from that plant soon you need to give it a night time!! and youll save up on elecricity bill....
18/6 not 24/7 :)



Peaaaace
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The way I learned to take clones, after I take a cutting and put in the medium, I put it in darkness for 12 Hours so it can recover from the shock and root more easily, so I usually leave my mother in 24 hour light, and my clones turn out fine, I don't see why you need a "night time" to clone
 
jahtrip

jahtrip

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You dont necessarily need a night cycle for cloning.... it is true the clones will root a little bit faster with no dark cycle... but once rooted the clones enter vegging... and most people do not have a seperate room for cloning and vegging... That is why u would have 6 hours of dark cycle... if you are using your veg room to keep mothers, grow vegetative plants and clone.. ur better off keeping your cycle on 18/6 because the vegging plants and mothers need that short night.. to actually GROW... dont get me wrong.. plants will grow in 24 hours of light but that is completely breaking its natural cycle... and all plants store energy during the day as they photosynthesize and do most of their "stretch"/ grow ...during their night cycle ...
Many options are open when growing indoors with a plant like this... Its all about what works best for you and your needs.....
I like to pay attention to the natural life cycle of cannabis.... therefor trying to reproduce nature to my best ability indoors in my environment!

Take it easy

Jah
 
jahtrip

jahtrip

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Jables: once again i must have been too high when i was writing my post from before and yes the NPK i gave is pretty balanced... that particular npk was for the old plagron ALGA Grow... they have changed their NPK's now to get their organic certification ...
8-8-10 is a little bit high, and would do good in a not too rich soil for vegging plants but for mothers try and find something a little bit more on the N side... and give it very little doses of it .... I now like to use brown and black seaweed, a little bit of bio vega from canna.... and worm casting tea....
either way give much less fertilizer to your mothers then you would to a vegging plant....

Peace
 
*BUDS

*BUDS

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hwy420 said:
Great method; that's what I am planning on doing. I only have a little sprout/seedling that i'm planning on taking to mother hood for cloning.


So I
keep my Metal Halide running 24/7
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nonstop for 2 months?

Any nutrient solution needed to keep them in Vegetative state?
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Yes ,after you know its female and the best performing one.
 
madeyoulook

madeyoulook

Member
growing indoors you can create any type of environment you want, all you need is fresh air, clean water, and plenty of light per square ft.
 
warbalig

warbalig

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reveging my mother1 lady for her third time and have
taken 7 clones each reveg have a nice little 70 day grow
and smoke going
no more worring of not having any to keep me going.!
 
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