Getting Caught

stiffer

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what are the reasons that most people get caught?

i always thought because of helicopters seeing the heat of a hps light, thats why i use cfls
 

jordisgarden

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the absolute worsst thing you can do is show someone. and it usually wont get you busted, just your house ransacked by maggots while you aint home. another thing to think of is if you were one of those people running a 1000 watt system all day every day, light leakage to the outside can screw you. because some nosey neighbor looks in your window. smell is another way to attract attention.no helicopter is gonna fly over and see your grow. that happened to me but i was outside at my spot. i had to low crawl three billion miles through dirt water thorns and shit to get away. i went back a wqeek later it was all chopped down and all my water bottles and shovel etc.. were gone. if you had an entire house with moving lights and all that theyd probably finsd out from the electric company, then send a heli or cops in the form of electrical workers to your house. if your just growing a few plants to smoke and not trying to be the pablo escobar of ganja then as long as 10 people dont know about it youll be fine.......ive done a lot of reading and you can run a 600 watt lamp on the same amount of electricity as a refridgerator. your safe just be quite. its soooooo hard to not be like heyyy all my friends look how cool i am. i know i fight the temptaion all the time. but its something we have to do. were like the special forces of ganja. the quiter we are the safer we are. good luck bro
 

nunof

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Showing or telling....and having your grow site (provided you mass produce) at your home site. Of course, this is all going to be dependent on your state's medical laws and what not.
 

xXMaslanXx

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Heres what I think, its ok to tell someone, like your best friend. just dont tell him/her where it is. It would be funny, cops bust down your door thinking your growing weed, but really your growing across town in your moms house lol
 

dusty26

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well depends on your location... biggest numberone rule when growing "DO NOT TELL ANYONE" anyone at all... I know at times when you get everything down pat and you see your "secret garden" thriving vigurously you just wanna go out and brag... but keep it to your self.... all it takes is for one person that knows to get pissed at you or to open their mouth to someone and your done.... just keep it to yourself... another thing... if your around other houses... in a tight neighborhood smell and sound... ppl are nosey and believe it or not smell is a big issue for alot of ppl and a big danger... now like infared ... if your in a small town where everyone knows everyone chances are your local law enforcement 1 doesn't have a chopper and 2 do not have infared... but if your local law enforcement does have a chopper just pretend they do have infared.... but infared is easy to be undetected... check it... infared checks the heat sigs of your house... on their screen when they see a bright red heat sig in a room or closet or a certain area of the house it raises a "red flag" lol... if your grow room is 85 degrees and the rest of your house is (lets just say) 60 degrees it's going to show... so it's best to place many temp guages around the main areas of your house and keep your temps around the same as your grow room.... (living room, kitchen, dining room, comp room whatever) and use cool tubes... alot of heat is generated with hid's using a cool tube and a fan pointed at your light will keep your temps down and greatly lowers your chances of being detected by ir...
 

RandyB

Active Member
I agree, not telling anyone will be your toughest challenge but it is your best bet in keeping safe. If you live in your own homw you can have 3-4000 extra watts and it wont be a problem. If the power company ever called, just tell them that you have more people living with you now. They really don't care unless you don't pay your bill on time.
 

Landragon

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well depends on your location... biggest numberone rule when growing "DO NOT TELL ANYONE" anyone at all... I know at times when you get everything down pat and you see your "secret garden" thriving vigurously you just wanna go out and brag... but keep it to your self.... all it takes is for one person that knows to get pissed at you or to open their mouth to someone and your done.... just keep it to yourself... another thing... if your around other houses... in a tight neighborhood smell and sound... ppl are nosey and believe it or not smell is a big issue for alot of ppl and a big danger... now like infared ... if your in a small town where everyone knows everyone chances are your local law enforcement 1 doesn't have a chopper and 2 do not have infared... but if your local law enforcement does have a chopper just pretend they do have infared.... but infared is easy to be undetected... check it... infared checks the heat sigs of your house... on their screen when they see a bright red heat sig in a room or closet or a certain area of the house it raises a "red flag" lol... if your grow room is 85 degrees and the rest of your house is (lets just say) 60 degrees it's going to show... so it's best to place many temp guages around the main areas of your house and keep your temps around the same as your grow room.... (living room, kitchen, dining room, comp room whatever) and use cool tubes... alot of heat is generated with hid's using a cool tube and a fan pointed at your light will keep your temps down and greatly lowers your chances of being detected by ir...
So where do you think the heat goes when using a cooltube? It does not magically neutralize it on the way down the duct. In fact, not PROPERLY using an air cooled reflector could result in a telltale heat signature. Not many houses have a constant 95•F stream flowing from their roof or soffits. The only way to avoid arial flyover detection, is to isolate or neutralize the heat source. This means using IR shielding film and either venting heat through a stack which SHOULD be emitting that much heat, or a run far enough underground to allow for heat exchange. Alternatively a "perfect" room can be set up which does not affect the surrounding building in any way.
 

dj crane

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the absolute worsst thing you can do is show someone. and it usually wont get you busted, just your house ransacked by maggots while you aint home. another thing to think of is if you were one of those people running a 1000 watt system all day every day, light leakage to the outside can screw you. because some nosey neighbor looks in your window. smell is another way to attract attention.no helicopter is gonna fly over and see your grow. that happened to me but i was outside at my spot. i had to low crawl three billion miles through dirt water thorns and shit to get away. i went back a wqeek later it was all chopped down and all my water bottles and shovel etc.. were gone. if you had an entire house with moving lights and all that theyd probably finsd out from the electric company, then send a heli or cops in the form of electrical workers to your house. if your just growing a few plants to smoke and not trying to be the pablo escobar of ganja then as long as 10 people dont know about it youll be fine.......ive done a lot of reading and you can run a 600 watt lamp on the same amount of electricity as a refridgerator. your safe just be quite. its soooooo hard to not be like heyyy all my friends look how cool i am. i know i fight the temptaion all the time. but its something we have to do. were like the special forces of ganja. the quiter we are the safer we are. good luck bro

100% true, this post is basicly the gospel, don't tell anyone, and PAY YOUR BILL
 

mannurse801

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I've been lurking for a year almost, and I have seen this type of thread a few times. I think it is legit to have it resurface every now and again. Growing can be nerve racking for some, and they just want to hear that everything will be ok....

I mean, growing a personal stash is very hard to get caught playing it smart. The bigger you get, the harder it is to avoid the long arm....
Just play it smart, don't be a doche, and everything should be fine.
 

Kludge

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For the eight billionth time:

FLIR, or any IR, DOES NOT LOOK THROUGH WALLS! IT CANNOT SEE A HOT "CLOSET" IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR HOUSE NOR CAN IT SEE A HOT LIGHT THROUGH THE WALLS OF YOUR HOUSE! IT CANNOT SEE THROUGH WALLS AT ALL!

IR sees heat, just like your eyes see light. Can you see if a light bulb is on through a door? No, nor can IR see heat through a door. But you can see light leaking out from the edges of the door, just like IR can see heat escaping from the edges.

What IR is used for is to look for a lot of heat coming from a building or a building that has a hotter roof than other buildings. In a static environment IR shielding will do nothing as the shielding will heat up and transfer the heat from the shield to whatever the shield is attached too. That shielding will only be good as long as it doesn't heat up itself; which is going to be pretty quickly.

Here's the deal with heat: If you are growing with a 600W or even a 1000W in your closet or a spare room you will not be busted for heat. So, don't be stupid, but you really don't have to worry about it AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT VENT THE HEAT OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE OR INTO YOUR ATTIC. My home theater / media room uses more electricity and generates more heat than your grow light ever will. If you're just growing for yourself that is, if you are trying to grow commercially then go figure it out on your own, I don't support that.

Oh, and this one never gets any play but make sure to put your ballast behind a heavy duty surge protector with Automatic Voltage Regulation (AVR) because the ballast can put out a lot of noise on the power lines. The power company doesn't care and it won't cause any alarms, unless they are looking for that sort of thing specifically from you, but the noise on the power line can affect your cable box if it's on the same circuit and that CAN cause the cable guys to come poking around. Cable guys sell tips to the cops all the time; in my area it's one of their dirty little secrets so I only use DirecTV (installed it myself) and DSL.
 

socalkushman

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pot plants give off there own signature of heat...having the lights help none...:weed: unless your shits insulated..you stand a high chance of being caught..they also look at power usuage!
 

Anotheroldephart

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well depends on your location... biggest numberone rule when growing "DO NOT TELL ANYONE" anyone at all... I know at times when you get everything down pat and you see your "secret garden" thriving vigurously you just wanna go out and brag... but keep it to your self.... all it takes is for one person that knows to get pissed at you or to open their mouth to someone and your done.... just keep it to yourself... another thing... if your around other houses... in a tight neighborhood smell and sound... ppl are nosey and believe it or not smell is a big issue for alot of ppl and a big danger... now like infared ... if your in a small town where everyone knows everyone chances are your local law enforcement 1 doesn't have a chopper and 2 do not have infared... but if your local law enforcement does have a chopper just pretend they do have infared.... but infared is easy to be undetected... check it... infared checks the heat sigs of your house... on their screen when they see a bright red heat sig in a room or closet or a certain area of the house it raises a "red flag" lol... if your grow room is 85 degrees and the rest of your house is (lets just say) 60 degrees it's going to show... so it's best to place many temp guages around the main areas of your house and keep your temps around the same as your grow room.... (living room, kitchen, dining room, comp room whatever) and use cool tubes... alot of heat is generated with hid's using a cool tube and a fan pointed at your light will keep your temps down and greatly lowers your chances of being detected by ir...

that method is no longer used after many false raids as more and more water heaters are being put in attics.
 
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