Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[Kash Krop]

Stink...

You did it. My plants are growing too fast. In fact, this plant's root system is so big it is blocking drainage! There is a constant pool of water behind this plant about 0.5inches depth (it rises to about 2inches when the sprayers are on, then slowly drains down to about 0.5" at about 4 minutes. In fact, there is one more plant from the same mother in the same post much farther up, causing the same problem--but there is no plant above it.

The other post doesn't have a problem. It quickly drains empty.

So the question is.. have you had this happen, and can it be fixed? When I actually pull the plant up about an inch I can see a rush of water drain out. There is no way to secure the net pot up higher--the roots have completely taken over.

Also.. these plants are only at 3 weeks. They have at least 5 more! I'm not too concernced about future plants--they will be much smaller before going into flower. But these ones have awhile, and I was a little concerned about stagnant water...

How long does it take your flower units to drain? Maybe this is normal after a few weeks?

Could you place a short piece of 1/4" plastic tube under the roots? A drain pipe.

 

[havefungodumb]

heres what i got going

1) still need pvc i wanted to extend the setup but use less pvc any ideas? im hoping it matches up!

2) I thought i could just use enough 3/4 pvc to get 1 more 10 foot pvc cut in half in, so 2 more slots but WOULD IT BALANCE, EEKKZ!?!??! i did"nt wanna buy more T's and elbows 3/4 because i already spent alot i went to a pricey store and i did"nt see the white pvc first,
right now i got half a 10 foot 3/4 pvc but i need more and a 4 way T i was thinking on 1 side top and bottom then extend it a bit just enough to hold the 2 5 foot pz of fence post or 6" pvc if i made the holding part lil longer or just stick with 4 inch small plants i don't care.

3) if i waited a week till i got a 600 gph pump u think 400 would even push out water on the 2 other sides out through misters?, 2 of the pipes are 47" other two are inch or 2 or 3 smaller lol.

4) do plastic pvc T's and ball vales (threaded) seal water? someone told me recently this is true!?!?!?!


ANYWAYS what you guys think any IDEAS?!?!?! take a look at pics(still need more stuff)

 

[Maudib]

I'm entering this thread late, and i appologise if I'm asking something that's already been asked, but, for the setup with the fencepost, Could you use a smaller pump?

I have someone interested in helping me, and they want to know if they could use a smaller (less expensive) pump, and what would happen.

Thank you for your very informative thread. Keep up the good work.

 

[StinkBud]

Stink...

You did it. My plants are growing too fast. In fact, this plant's root system is so big it is blocking drainage! There is a constant pool of water behind this plant about 0.5inches depth (it rises to about 2inches when the sprayers are on, then slowly drains down to about 0.5" at about 4 minutes. In fact, there is one more plant from the same mother in the same post much farther up, causing the same problem--but there is no plant above it.

The other post doesn't have a problem. It quickly drains empty.

So the question is.. have you had this happen, and can it be fixed? When I actually pull the plant up about an inch I can see a rush of water drain out. There is no way to secure the net pot up higher--the roots have completely taken over.

Also.. these plants are only at 3 weeks. They have at least 5 more! I'm not too concernced about future plants--they will be much smaller before going into flower. But these ones have awhile, and I was a little concerned about stagnant water...

How long does it take your flower units to drain? Maybe this is normal after a few weeks?

The roots will completely fill the post around the net pots. Unless the water is coming out of the top you have nothing to worry about.

It takes a while for the flower units to drain as the roots get bigger. Eventually there will be a solid mat of root hairs.

The Liquid Karma turns it dark brown. When you look at it close you will see a million tiny root hairs and virtually no tap roots!

 

[robotninja]

Thanks again stinkbud, your guide is proof that even a noob can get this to work so long as you follow it step by step.

My cloner is kickin ass n taking names. Even the clone that i accidentally butchered while trying to remove rock wool (I ripped all the roots off) has resprouted new roots and is doin fine. The rest have roots that seem to grow by the minute. Been keepin the pump on 24/7 mainly to keep the water from getting too cold (we are cheap and don't like to use the heater in the house, so it gets cold, especially on hard wood flooring). Will move to veg stage in a few more days. Can't wait!

Super Silver Haze should be yummy, this is my first grow ever btw.

 

[repvip]

The roots will completely fill the post around the net pots. Unless the water is coming out of the top you have nothing to worry about.

It takes a while for the flower units to drain as the roots get bigger. Eventually there will be a solid mat of root hairs.

The Liquid Karma turns it dark brown. When you look at it close you will see a million tiny root hairs and virtually no tap roots!

Sounds good! I won't worry about it unless the posts start flooding.

Here is what I was talking about. First pic: water waiting to drain/held in by big plant. Second/third: downstream from the big plant. Fourth: slow drainage, but drainage no less.

 

[StinkBud]

Sounds good! I won't worry about it unless the posts start flooding.

Here is what I was talking about. First pic: water waiting to drain/held in by big plant. Second/third: downstream from the big plant. Fourth: slow drainage, but drainage no less.

They look great to me bro. You can see the root mat starting to form.

Everyone worries a little too much the first batch. It's perfectly normal. As long as you have followed my instructions you can't go wrong.

That's going to be one hell of a big plant bro!!!

One more thing...You do have the back taller than the front, right? It should be 1" taller in the back to allow proper drainage.

 

[jem]

is ak48 about the same as 47 nirvana does not have 47 just 48

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

Hey guys...im flushing as i type,,,,the pump is running tap water right now..in a few more minutes i will change the res and add the clearex......wish me luck!!!

 

[andyman]

does anyone know if those little red 360~ sprayers can be mounted upside down and still work?


good luck dirthawker

 

[StinkBud]

I've been getting lazy with the photos. I love to see everyone's setups so I thought it's about time to show you the latest crop.

Here is a photo of my flower room. The batch on the right will be pulled this morning. Notice how the flush has turned the leaves yellow. If you were to look at the trichromes closely you would see that they are mostly cloudy with a few turning amber.

The big bud in the front is Elvy. I've given up on this strain because it take so long to finish. The tall plants are Shishkeberry. Check out the size of the calixes on the buds. One calix is the size of a joint!

I pulled the plants from the 6-hole unit yesterday. They are drying now. The Purple Silver is beyond dank. It smells and tastes exactly like Welches grape juice.

I tried the NYC Diesel for the first time. It's some tasty shit! Not as good as Blueberry or Purple Silver but what is?

To all the people that ask questions with a whole shit load of numbers... They just kick my poor old stoned ass. Any of you guys at the head of the class (you know who you are) feel free to help these guys while I'm snowboarding.

One more thing...the best bud is always the bud you grow yourself.

 

[StinkBud]

does anyone know if those little red 360~ sprayers can be mounted upside down and still work?


good luck dirthawker

They work but not as well. They are designed to be sprayed up so the water spreads out. When they are upside down the water sprays down without much spread.

My first system had the sprayers pointing down and it worked fine. That was an Aero/NFT design though. I don't think it would work well in the cloner or veg unit.

 

[StinkBud]

I'm entering this thread late, and i appologise if I'm asking something that's already been asked, but, for the setup with the fencepost, Could you use a smaller pump?

I have someone interested in helping me, and they want to know if they could use a smaller (less expensive) pump, and what would happen.

Thank you for your very informative thread. Keep up the good work.

Bro...One gallon of nutrients costs twice as much as a pump! You will need 4 gallons of different nutes within the first month.

Your PPM and PH meters costs 5X as much! What I'm saying is that if you can't afford a pump ($25), you can't afford to run this system.

I always recommend good old fashioned soil if you are short on cash. Spend your money on lights instead.

 

[repvip]

They look great to me bro. You can see the root mat starting to form.

Everyone worries a little too much the first batch. It's perfectly normal. As long as you have followed my instructions you can't go wrong.

That's going to be one hell of a big plant bro!!!

One more thing...You do have the back taller than the front, right? It should be 1" taller in the back to allow proper drainage.

The back is exactly 1" taller than the front! These are 72" posts though! The general NFT design rule I've read is 1 in 40.. so I should probably raise it at least another inch. My floors probably aren't level... hehe.. I will raise it soon

 

[repvip]

is ak48 about the same as 47 nirvana does not have 47 just 48

I believe these are supposed to be very similar to AK47, which is why I got them as well. If all condition are perfect they should finish in 48 days.

Guess what? I still have them. From Nirvana. Never germinated. Why? They aren't feminized! Trust me... spend the extra money and get feminized seeds!!

 

[jem]

i am going to home depot today what page is all the measurments for the flowering system on. I found blueprint but no measurments can you give me the measurments stink or anyone else that has build the flower system.

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

here ya go Jem

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks-55.html

 

[StinkBud]

Im at at 7 weeks and two days and havent started my flush yet..
Ive been researching my strains and looking at pics and they just dont seem to be ready to start the flush yet,
I could be wrong.

I've noticed that if I don't start my flush at 7 weeks the plants will go into another growth stage and produce new growth on top of the old.

When I start my flush at 7 weeks the plants stop growing and ripen up. The pistils turn orange and the trichromes will turn cloudy.

You can always flush longer than 2 weeks if the plants are not done. Only thing that will happen is the buds will taste even better!

My latest experiment is using Clearex for the whole flush. I'm trying it on my latest batch with great success. Botanicare recommends 3-4 days of Clearex instead of a two week water flush. I've tried that and it wasn't enough.

So this time I took my plants out 8 1/2 weeks before I started my flush but I'm only flushing for 8 days total. I've been using 450ml of Clearex and changing the water and adding Clearex every other day. This is the maximum amount of Clearex Botanicare recommends.

The plants look the same in 1 week with Clearex as they do with 2 weeks of straight water. Granted I took the plants out a full 8.5 weeks before I started my flush. It looks like this might be an option to allow those longer strains to finish up before flushing and not sacrifice the final taste.

I'll let you guys know the final results in few days.

My other experiment involves using my veg formula for the first two weeks of flower. I've always noticed that when I put my girls into flower they stretch and look like they could use a little more Nitrogen.

So this time I used the Veg formula with the new girls instead of the bloom formula. I did add Sweet to the formula. Right away I can see that it is working great! The plants are staying dark green and growing very fast without much internode length. I'll switch back to bloom at my next res change. You guys should try it out and see if you get the same results.

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

Interesting STINK... that makes alot of sense,
4 days on clearex= 2 weeks plain water. And you can kinda experiment around that equation. I think i will just play it safe this time around and do the 150ml of clearex for 24 hours then plain tap water and see how it comes out...thanks for the experiments.

 

[Thundercat]

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