Is everyone having trouble getting rid of their weed
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Phytoplankton
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In Cali, there’s literally no demand for bud on the legal market. Growers can’t find dispensaries to buy it.
tyler.durden
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Wow, I never liked a Meast post before, but bro, I feel ya. What was the easiest part of the job is now the hardest, finding new clients. Before rec legal, to gain new custies all I had to do was promise people 2 or 3 ounces for bringing me new clients. Now, even that isn't working. And if you get a text and can't deliver immediately, they just call their next plug. No more waiting for my good shit, because EVERYONE'S got good shit. I'm only selling 60% of my harvests, and most of that at $120. I still have a few $180 oz custies, and several $160 clients, but new people I'm getting for $120. I just made up a bunch of little welcome packages with about 3 grams and a pre-rolled joint in a little smell proof envelope along with my contact info to hand out to people. I'm convinced that I would just need one day with a clipboard in front of a popular dispensary giving out these packages and stressing delivery to their door to build up my client base, but I don't have the balls. So I'm going to do the next best thing and hit the local frolf park. I believe that being a stoner is mandatory with disc golf. Never thought I'd see the day...
DanKiller
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The price alone reflects what people are selling, no one is selling a oz of true fire for 100-150$ that's ridiculous
What are you expecting to get for mids keepers ?
I've been around the states and AMS and Thailand, no one holds the fire, 99% mids.
People who still have the plugs that hold the true elite cuts, those still move in very high prices, but it's less than 1% of the market, so you won't even hear or see it.
No one today is willing to pay, most people see weed as weed, no difference besides flavor maybe..
Everything I'm getting from seeds I grow usually sells for very very cheap because it's mids, duh
But both they and me know the moment you'll have something special that they crave, your gonna empty their pockets lol
What are you expecting to get for mids keepers ?
I've been around the states and AMS and Thailand, no one holds the fire, 99% mids.
People who still have the plugs that hold the true elite cuts, those still move in very high prices, but it's less than 1% of the market, so you won't even hear or see it.
No one today is willing to pay, most people see weed as weed, no difference besides flavor maybe..
Everything I'm getting from seeds I grow usually sells for very very cheap because it's mids, duh
But both they and me know the moment you'll have something special that they crave, your gonna empty their pockets lol
There is no such thing as mids anymore, anything of substandard quality gets processed into other products( edibles topicals exct) I dont care how good your crop is if you tell me you think you'll get more then 225/oz I laugh in your face. Virginia is a grey market weeds legal sales are not
BWG707
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The biggest problem for growers in CA is the cost of electricity, and outdoor prices are extremely low and a lot of counties have strict guidelines that makes growing for profit almost impossible. About 90% of the growers I know quit growing years ago. Small at home grows are strictly for personal consumption.
Phytoplankton
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How things have changed, in the late 70's Humboldt growers were getting up to 5K/Lb for great quality sinsemilla ($60 for an eighth), now they're getting maybe 1.5-2K if they're lucky and the weed is exceptional.
Stiickygreen
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Hey dude.
It's a hard, forced transition. The guys who say "My Top Shelf will always command premium prices" just haven't hit the skids YET. It's comin' though.
The huge influx of folks here in CO (from every illegal state in the Union) after med passed in 2000 started the downward trend. $4K lbs. became $2K lbs...and the spiral continued as more folks saw the writing on the wall and sold for less and less. No more 1/4' z'ing up an Lb and watching it go in a few days to the knuckledraggers. ($6400
)Rec in 2014 sealed the deal. I went from moving 3 lbs a month and not being able to keep up with demand to 1/2 lb a month or less. I still got $1K for the 1/2 but the game was up. It was good fun while it lasted though. The 90's were insanely profitable for those few playing along.
At least you were smart with your end game vision and have something tangible to show for it. A lot of folks just spent more when they made more and don't have much to show for the RISKS they took. Good show.
Unga Bunga
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Starting back in '80 we were getting $3200 a lb for outdoor and couldn't grow enough . $3200 in '80 being about $12,000 in today's world . Young and dumb , cars , motorcycles , boats , guns , cocaine , you name it . Those were the days !
DanKiller
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You guys are living in la la land, that's why when reality hits you in da face you can't comprehend it, not talking directly at you @Phytoplankton, just wanted to quote you for reference
In the old times when elite bud was circa, you got high prices, as you should.
Today weed is not exceptional nor better than 20 years ago, if you believe it is, you either
A, very young and have no idea what was 15-20 years ago
B, not a heavy smoker
C, haven't smoked true elites (just think you do cuz of name games)
D, all of the above
That's just the plain facts, if someone define mids as fire that doesn't mean anything, what does mean something is what your getting for your shit in da streets
Here we have a crazy amount of "exceptional weed lol" that doesn't sell and doesn't bring in big bucks, and that's a good thing, because in reality nothing is exceptional about it, and it def can't compete with the elites of old, not by a long shot.
So, the entire market has become mainly new smokers who define mids as fire, and they determine most of the hype and influence.
DanKiller
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Btw, I sell my normal keeper crop which in no way even come close to elite clones, at about 300$ oz, wholesale.
They sell it for 600$ oz to reg customers, but in no way thats worth the price, it's just part of the "exceptional weed" scene here that for old heavy smokers is mids at best.
When I do stumble on a nice pheno with the lame seeds all around , I can get 500-600$ oz wholesale, for elite clone, something that's really killer in all aspects... Probably 800$ is not far fatched in today's market.
Hash is selling for 30-40$ a gram here, the good real get you high hash, not the exceptional weed hash, that is considered mids here and sell for 10$ a gram
You can guess where I live if you want, not in the USA.
Stiickygreen
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Different countries...different economics...and far different laws all play into the price of weed across the globe. Even in it's hayday...no sane person in the USA would have spent $800 for a straight up ounce of weed. Maybe all gram'd out in NYC er something...but not in 99.9% of mainstream America. It was $400 a z when the fare was NL5/DTHF, or any SSSC cloned pot/grown from seed pot for decades. That pricing just morphed over to the polyhybrid market because there were still more places that were illegal than not in the USA. Risk commended pricing then. Supply and demand, combined with "legality" commands pricing now. It's still just as illegal to sell here as it ever was...but now you are stepping on the State's tax toes so they don't go easy on the folks still selling...and for 1/4 the price it once commanded...not many are doing so anymore...even with the "super weed".
We do know how good the heirlooms are though. Those were freely shared between the USA/EU all those years ago. Definitely different highs and focuses. Now everything is bred to "frost" rather than to the high. All you can do is find yer niche' and go with it. Glad to see you've found yours.
We do know how good the heirlooms are though. Those were freely shared between the USA/EU all those years ago. Definitely different highs and focuses. Now everything is bred to "frost" rather than to the high. All you can do is find yer niche' and go with it. Glad to see you've found yours.
DanKiller
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Stories of 600-800$ oz in the bay area are prevalent, in the old times prices were higher, but the bud was stellar.
Today, it is easier to grow, way more legal, but still prices are plummeting all over.
It's not the market, it's the bud.
Show me that old school bud, the cheese, the purple kush, strains that were just everyday classics in the coffeeshops, sold for 10-20 euro, 20 years ago ! In Todays money worth, with inflation, it's probably x3 worth.
Today, it is easier to grow, way more legal, but still prices are plummeting all over.
It's not the market, it's the bud.
Show me that old school bud, the cheese, the purple kush, strains that were just everyday classics in the coffeeshops, sold for 10-20 euro, 20 years ago ! In Todays money worth, with inflation, it's probably x3 worth.
Post medical legislation even up to 2013 prices of higrade actually skyrocketed for a few years in non medical states, i could not find a oz of sense for less then $500, the qualitly went up drastically as did the gap between topshelf and regs. You could get brick $50/oz mids 100/oz or bomb, but there were no beaster homegrown or subprime sense. Once CA/WA/CO got their rec markets sorted out about 2016ish then the lowgrade disappeared. I litteraly had people begging me to find them "regular weed" highgrade prices dropped back to $350-400 where they were pre 2010 and the beaster/subprime reamerged as the budget opption with a price drop from $250-300 down to $180-250. Since then prices have come down across the board, there is a market standard in quality thats above what i use to call beasters or subprime but its hard to find true highgrade on the greymarket, the people who grow it cant get the return they want on it so they keep it for themselfs
tyler.durden
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So true. The main factor that drove prices so high was the illegality and the risk, secondarily was the quality. I had many clients back in the day that would buy even the bud that wasn't top quality (every once in a while a batch got fucked up). I even had a few that would buy all my popcorn for $100 an oz and even my frosty trim for $50 an ounce! God, I miss that. Now I grow the best weed I ever have, and it is difficult to get rid of. If I can get at least $100 ounces I'll keep growing, as I produce about 18 oz per month. Lower than that it just won't be worth my time, energy, or risk. Then I'll be the one buying fire for $100 per oz. I just feel fortunate that I was able to take advantage the gold rush for a dozen years or so. I have nice vehicles, great musical instruments and a great studio, and now a house I bought all cash. No mortgage, and no necessary large items left to purchase. I even have about $30k left in the rainy day fund. It was a blast, and I came out pretty good. Nothing great lasts forever. I gotta start growing shrooms, more and more people asking for those...
From 2015-2022 my weed game was on fire. I could produce about 25 oz's a month growing and I was selling most of it for about 4 out of those 8 years. I was getting $250 an oz... It was high quality too and for a 3 year span I got the best strain ever from this kid that knew my sister bc I started talking to him at the local hydro shop.. He got the strain from seed bc he was like 5th in charge of this big illegal grow op (there electric bill was $3500 a month using LED's) and they popped 40 seeds from Europe and that was the best strain.
DanKiller
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Fire for 100$ ? Good luck
Probably mids, not even close to what you talk about just a second before, and the exect reason why it was so high in price and why it's so low now.
The quality was there, sure the risk was higher but not enough to justify the price, it was more because what you got was killer ass dope that people paid in your own words, even for the trim of it, I agree, people used to buy the trim from me too, today people will think your insane haha why is that ? Because their bud is mids so how can they even imagine smoking the trim
I smoked all that "fire" in the dispensary and telegram and whatnot, fire... A joke.
I have a good friend in TX, she used to smoke PK with me 8 years ago, now she tells me she looked everywhere, nothing come close, no matter the price.
Samwiseman420
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People taking mine right off the hangars. I can't even get a 2 week cure before it's all gone.
They want the dark stuff. It's the rage around here right now. Black Velvet or Dante's Inferno. Gone in 60 seconds. I keep a variety going with several different top shelf strains. I guess my price is good as well. I wish I could get $100 a z.
They want the dark stuff. It's the rage around here right now. Black Velvet or Dante's Inferno. Gone in 60 seconds. I keep a variety going with several different top shelf strains. I guess my price is good as well. I wish I could get $100 a z.