World Of Hempy

teddyearp

teddyearp

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Burndoggin said:
Regarding the "hempy few"..... Why is that? If it's so easy as just adding nutes till runoff. Of course all the rest involved in a successful grow.
Asking about the negatives of this method I guess. Can't really find any.
Planing my second grow and this thread has had me reading until my eyes bleed. (lost my place so many times,rabbit hole central)
1st grow is organic and thinking with my ADHD, Ph and ppm will be easier..... And I've always wanted an air stone :hump:
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I started with vermiculite/perlite using a homemade hydro 30 years ago or so. Seems like many tout aeroponics, coco cour, deep water, hence we happy few.
 
teddyearp

teddyearp

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
one negative is that it requires a lot of attention, compared to dirt. You either have to set up and maintain something like blumats, or hand water at least once a day. Makes it hard to get away on the spur of the moment.
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My setup is a DYI hydro runs 2x a day 15 minutes each. Check that thread I linked if you want more. I mean, cloning really doesn't need daily attention. I could leave mine for days, but mine seems best at weekly water changes.
 
Burndoggin

Burndoggin

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teddyearp said:
My setup is a DYI hydro runs 2x a day 15 minutes each. Check that thread I linked if you want more.
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I live in an apartment, so diy can't be done for fear of flooding.
Shit I'm watering every dam day as it is with promix organic grow and its killing me.
If I started the seed in promix as it can last 2 weeks b4 nutes are needed. Then transplant into hempy, would that work?
Or would the promix wash away from the stem?
I love promix for the ph stability, but it's been going hydrophobic on me, hence the everyday watering.
Thx.
 
teddyearp

teddyearp

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Burndoggin said:
I live in an apartment, so diy can't be done for fear of flooding.
Shit I'm watering every dam day as it is with promix organic grow and its killing me.
If I started the seed in promix as it can last 2 weeks b4 nutes are needed. Then transplant into hempy, would that work?
Or would the promix wash away from the stem?
I love promix for the ph stability, but it's been going hydrophobic on me, hence the everyday watering.
Thx.
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I don't know dude if you can go hempy without hydro. But I'm the n00b to this term, so I may be wrong. I have one strain that gets too thirsty at 600w on my HPS and it leans more sativa so I put its clone in the flower too. This hempy with hydro has me to a place where I can be picky.
 
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teddyearp

teddyearp

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I started a whole thread on my system before I realized that the mix was a 'thing' called hempy. On phone, so not smart enough to link it. But it's down there with redneck in the title and I guess I did link it above if you want to see all the pics.

I'm getting damn near 100% clone success by just cutting, sticking it into it's own cup of the hempy mix, and sticking right into the system. Maybe mist the leaves sometimes. But they hardly even skip a beat.

But @Moebius why did the vermiculite/perlite mix that I used 30 years ago as well get called "Hempy"?
 
emepher

emepher

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teddyearp said:
I started a whole thread on my system before I realized that the mix was a 'thing' called hempy. On phone, so not smart enough to link it. But it's down there with redneck in the title and I guess I did link it above if you want to see all the pics.

I'm getting damn near 100% clone success by just cutting, sticking it into it's own cup of the hempy mix, and sticking right into the system. Maybe mist the leaves sometimes. But they hardly even skip a beat.

But @Moebius why did the vermiculite/perlite mix that I used 30 years ago as well get called "Hempy"?
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I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of the hempy method is that it's not just about the medium. It also means you're using a container with a drain hole an inch or two above a solid bottom, creating a reservoir in the bottom. And the bottom layer is just plain perlite.

Also, some folks do hempy with other media in place of or in addition to vermiculite, such as coco coir or peat. But yeah, other than that, it's pretty simple and just a variation on what growers have been doing forever. I liked running automated top drip with 2 liter containers for a SOG setup. I also used the drip system with a hempy-style mix in 3 gallon fabric pots. The lack of a reservoir in the fabric pots was compensated for with more frequent waterings.

Always interested to see how others do it, so thanks for sharing. I mix and match a lot of different things, but everything I've tried has been done by somebody here.
 
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Stiickygreen

Stiickygreen

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teddyearp said:
I started a whole thread on my system before I realized that the mix was a 'thing' called hempy. On phone, so not smart enough to link it. But it's down there with redneck in the title and I guess I did link it above if you want to see all the pics.

I'm getting damn near 100% clone success by just cutting, sticking it into it's own cup of the hempy mix, and sticking right into the system. Maybe mist the leaves sometimes. But they hardly even skip a beat.

But @Moebius why did the vermiculite/perlite mix that I used 30 years ago as well get called "Hempy"?
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"Hempy" was the handle of a guy on OG who grew football sized buds in buckets of perlite/vermiculite with a drain hole and wowed many/all who saw his buds. Thus...the buckets became "Hempy buckets". As you guys note...some of us were doing the same thing in different containers. I was in a crawlspace...'91 til 2006. Folks who were there back then know it wasn't easy to source grow supplies/there were no grow stores...but nearly every area had a decent nursery with perlite/vermiculite. I'd read about someone starting tomatoes in that mix...and the whole "I'm growing tomatoes...wink...wink" thing was in full effect...so that's where I ended up. For containers I used 1-gallon milk jugs....cut off at a level above the handle about 1-2"....but I left the handle....which then served as a holder for a short 2 ft bamboo stake. Tie up 120 clones in a 12 x 12 space under 2K ala SOG ....hand water em every 2 days....and stand back...LOL Good times. No automation...just yer eyes and yer passion.

I'd love to try a bucket outside this year.
 
teddyearp

teddyearp

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Like ^^^you, back in the day it was much easier to get vermiculite/perlite than other soilless solutions. I used to grow in 18-20oz plastic cups with generous drainage holes.

Worked out then. So I did it again. The strains these days are much better and am quite happy with my results doing it the same way. Came across here calling the mix hempy.
 
Billytheluther

Billytheluther

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hoskie said:
May I ask what nute regimen you settled on? I used Advanced Nutrients' pH Perfect Grow Micro Bloom on my current soil grow and was considering their base nutes for this upcoming hempy attempt for the exact reason you mention. Yes, I am aware of the widespread criticisms of their pricing and marketing, but if it solves the pH stability issue, I'm willing to give them a go.
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ive found that gh flora trio will hold within hydro ph if not running silica with ro water
 
Tolerance Break

Tolerance Break

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Im building some hempy buckets when the current harvest is done drying, what are peoples thoughts on vermiculite vs coco, and their respective ratios with perilite?

I looked through a few threads, but the most in depth are so old the images no longer work.
 
chuckeye

chuckeye

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Tolerance Break said:
Im building some hempy buckets when the current harvest is done drying, what are peoples thoughts on vermiculite vs coco, and their respective ratios with perilite?

I looked through a few threads, but the most in depth are so old the images no longer work.
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Why complicate it ? Go with straight perlite..

The only thing I do differently is start the germinated seed in a solo cup of ProMix HP, then transplant into perlite

Cheers
 
Tolerance Break

Tolerance Break

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chuckeye said:
Why complicate it ? Go with straight perlite..

The only thing I do differently is start the germinated seed in a solo cup of ProMix HP, then transplant into perlite

Cheers
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I don't find mixing ratios of different substrates particularly complicated. I know hempy mixed perilite/vermiculite for his buckets, but I've seen people use straight perilite and coco/perilite as well with success, but there's not a whole lot of info as to what benefits/complications different substrates, and their ratios, have.
 
Billytheluther

Billytheluther

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I never used coco just vermiculite with perlite, i now do straight perlite.
Never had any issues with the verm mix, it just got hard to get a hold of locally and the price is a bit much.
Im sure they all work pretty much the same.

Im honestly thinking of switching out to coco rather then the hempys next run, i water daily as it is so maybe a dripper and daily watering.
that hole in the hempys always seem to clog up and stop draining well so I have to pick at them to get good water flow
 
chuckeye

chuckeye

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Tolerance Break said:
I don't find mixing ratios of different substrates particularly complicated. I know hempy mixed perilite/vermiculite for his buckets, but I've seen people use straight perilite and coco/perilite as well with success, but there's not a whole lot of info as to what benefits/complications different substrates, and their ratios, have.
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IIRC I made my final decision based on cost. At my local store 2 gallons of vermiculite was $26, 5 gallons of perlite was $15...

Wedding Cheesecake Auto in 4 gallons of perlite...

Day 84 Wedding Cheesecake 13 Oct 2023.jpg

Cheers
 
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Mike Parent

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I’ve grown in Hempys for years. We found that our indoor grow does best with 70/30 CoCo/ Perlite mix using Jacks 321
Outdoors, we use Turface as its weight keeps the pots from blowing over. JM2¢
 
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