"chemtrails"?

[Microdizzey]

Trail that lasted about an hour:

20-30 minute old trails:

10 minutes after:

And here's a normal trail:

This one disappeared as the jet continued forward.





The sky was clear today... and I saw 8 jets total leaving these long trails across the sky that lasted around an hour.

 

[FLoJo]

I see them early in the morning over here too... gotta love all those beneficial chemicals!! oh but wait, thats just normal exhaust right? WRONG

fuckin creeps... im ready for a revolution

 

[medicineman]

What's in chemtrails? A partial list may include but not be limited to:
1.JP8+100 jet fuel, laced with Ethylene Dibromide (EDB).
2.Mycoplasma Fermetens Incognitus (the SAME bioengineered pathogen that Dr. Garth Nicholson discovered in about 45% of the veterans who came down with Gulf War Illness).
3.bacterium, Pseudomonas Fluorescens, which is responsible for serious blood infections.
4.A fungus called streptomyces has also turned up in these cocktails.
5.The last component discovered in these cocktails is a special bacillus which contained what is known as a DNA restriction enzyme. What this allows, in effect, is gene splicing.
Nice eh? No wonder I have a persistent cough and feel like crap 1/2 the time, Also, my allergies that haven't bothered me since adolescence have been getting worse. It's like I have a mild case of the flu about 1/2 the time, have trouble breathing and, oh wait, that's just the old age and all the abuse I've given my body, who knows, maybe there is something to this crap........... So they are not spraying China because they need the cheap labor, figures. I don't even go outside that much, to and from the car is about it, I work out inside a gym, so I am limiting my exposure. I've really never noticed brown goo on my windshield though, but I've definently seen the trails. One good thing about Vegas, the wind blows quite frequently.

 

[Dfunk]

I think it's more of an issue with the long term effects of what those chemicals could possibly do to people...I don't think they are intentionaly trying to hurt us, but I do think they are using technologies that they really don't know fully what the impacts could be to public health. When we everyone understand that these people bottom line is all they care about & if you interfere with someone's bottom line well just figure the rest out.

 

[Microdizzey]

Even if it's just fuel, that shit is polluting the sky. Just watching all these jets dump it all over the sky shows how careless we are about this planet.

 

[FLoJo]

not trying to hurt us? explain how any of those things would be considered beneficial to anyone or anything? hell you gotta know that they know its bad because nobody will even admit they are real!! Its called eugenics, look it up learn it and love it, because it is happening all around us... in our foods (GMO's), our local waters (fluoride), our air (chem trails), in our medicine (flu shots).... its happening all around us... cancer didnt turn into an epidemic for no reason, Alzheimers, chrons disease, respiratory problems and allergies, heart problems etc.. didnt all become major problems for no reason... and we cant continue to blame tv and mcdonalds for everything

 

[Microdizzey]

Oh yeah. Eugenics is still very alive and in use today. But you forgot to mention the pharmaceuticals. Prescriptions are starting to show very bad and sometimes fatal side effects over a long period of use.

As for the chemtrails, I don't know... It could be a list of things their doing up there. And I really wouldn't be surprised if they are slowly poisoning the air. The problem is, they breathe that air as well. So maybe they're doing something else like weather modification or putting something in the air to produce holographic images.

Or it could just be fuel, and that is still not safe to be breathing. Right? I'm sure we could all agree that the crap they are releasing isn't good for us.

 

[Keenly]

come ON you guys..

usually im on board with most of the stuff but seriously?

chemtrails?

your contrails contain little more than jet fuel exaust..

those "clouds" you see that remain from a jet going by is the water vapor that reforms and creates a small cloud trail

 

[Dfunk]

As a response to FloJo...they need us, maybe not all of us, but I assure you a silent mass genocide is not what is happening. It's most likely weather modification if anything. What I'm saying is that the long term effects are not known. Many things in history were done with good intentions & went horribly wrong. As a final point even if everyone is overreacting to the chemtrail theories that jet fuel is probably not to good for the air regardless.

 

[FLoJo]

ya it seems every day theres a new lawyer with a commercial... have you or your loved ones asshole fallen off because of xyz medication? if so you could bank you assholess sob!!

and no buddy, as much as i would like to believe it is water vapor, normal contrails dissipate into the atmosphere.. there is no explanation to why side by side two planes can have two different trails in the same atmospheric conditions..

if that was true every commercial jet liner would have the trails, whereas every commercial flight has trails that dissipate.

 

[Dfunk]

I see your point...some of those trails are QUITE strange, but I don't think every miltary plane flying through the sky is dumping killer chems on people.

 

[Microdizzey]

Then why did I see a couple jets with trails that dissipated as they moved forward? The trails I posted sat there for an hour, maybe longer.

And you know what... the last pic I posted was a jet that was higher than all the others. I could barely get a shot of it cause it was too high. Yet it's trail didn't last. Shouldn't it freeze longer, the higher elevation?



Another thing is, I don't see this shit on a daily bases. In fact, I hardly see trails in the sky like this. And hundreds of airplanes fly over head every single day. Yesterday was really bad, that's why I took pictures.

 

[Keenly]

sigh..

flojo i love your grow and everything

but your getting as bad as that one youtube video where the woman is looking at her sprinkler which is creating a rainbow and saying

"oh man it wasnt like this 20 years ago the government is putting something in our water"

atmospheric conditions, wind, size of the engine, amount of fuel consumption,
size of the plane it self.....ALTITUDE

all have something to do on how a contrail looks

a really high up plain will produce the so called "normal" contrail in the picture


if there is no wind, and its not too hot at the altitude the plane is flying, and the plane is flying relatively low...

one can see that it IS possible for a contrail to last for many hours, and slowly become bigger as it expands..

its a cloud of jet fuel exhaust mixed with water vapor

there are no chemicals in it other than whats created by burning jet fuel, dont believe me? fly up there and test it out superman

you can call a turkey a duck all you want but it doesnt make it a duck

again, i have the utmost respect for you and your grow, because lets face it, its the best grow i have ever seen

 

[FLoJo]

well i appreciate it but my grow doesnt change the fact that what i am describing are not normal chem trails.

yes i do agree with you that different conditions can effect the contrail and make it linger, but i am talking about trails that SPREAD out into miles of sky which are dumped by huge unmarked jets which can be seen plain as day.

i wish i would have taken some pics a few days ago they were zig zagged all over the sky by my house and they are huge jets that fly WAY too low to be commercial aircraft but are still huge planes.

here is a website that if you look under the research department will explain a lot and debunk your theory on engines and atmosphere

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/

you can be like the ostrich and put your head in the sand, but that wont make the worlds problems disappear.

FLo

 

[Keenly]

well, any joe schmoe and his mom can make a website like that

some one needs to fly their ass up there an analyze this shit

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

sigh..

flojo i love your grow and everything

but your getting as bad as that one youtube video where the woman is looking at her sprinkler which is creating a rainbow and saying

"oh man it wasnt like this 20 years ago the government is putting something in our water"

atmospheric conditions, wind, size of the engine, amount of fuel consumption,
size of the plane it self.....ALTITUDE

all have something to do on how a contrail looks

a really high up plain will produce the so called "normal" contrail in the picture


if there is no wind, and its not too hot at the altitude the plane is flying, and the plane is flying relatively low...

one can see that it IS possible for a contrail to last for many hours, and slowly become bigger as it expands..

its a cloud of jet fuel exhaust mixed with water vapor

there are no chemicals in it other than whats created by burning jet fuel, dont believe me? fly up there and test it out superman

you can call a turkey a duck all you want but it doesnt make it a duck

again, i have the utmost respect for you and your grow, because lets face it, its the best grow i have ever seen

Actually it is entirely possible that the storms are being seeded, though I don't know why a jet would be used for that. A more logical choice would be a crop duster.

(Interesting stuff, seeding the atmosphere to guide storms)

As far as the contrails by jets, I think I'll agree with the opinion that the contrails are a normal phenomenon.

As far as the government putting something in our water, that's not news, the government's been adding fluoride to our water for nearly the last century.

So to state that the government is adding something to the water, can only elicit one response, "Where have you been for the last century?"

Now, a more relevant question might be, "Has the government been adding anything else to our water,"

That answer to that, is no, and yes. The government hasn't, but the local water utilities have. Chloride to keep it drinkable, or another chemical (H2O2, I think) and some other treatments.

Of course, as far as the rainbow in the sprinkler goes, natural phenomenon, nothing more nothing less.

I'm not going to explain in depth the phenomenon, because I am assuming that everyone here is familiar with the effect of prisms on light.

 

[FLoJo]

well i guess we can agree to disagree, and sure anyone could run a website like that but the data is proven.

and most people dont know that the gov. adds stuff to the water and they especially dont know that fluoride used is an industrial waste byproduct and causes cancer and brain tumors at over 1ppm and theres about 5 times that in most municipal waters..

sure they have been doing it for years, same with the trails but nobody takes the time to see whats in the air, in the water or in the food, and those that do get labeled as kooks..

its amazing that our government has somehow figured out a way to convince us that gov is good, does no wrong and would never do anything to hurt us, when history shows us that every government in the history of the world has proven the contrary.

thats my take at least

FLo

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

well i guess we can agree to disagree, and sure anyone could run a website like that but the data is proven.

and most people dont know that the gov. adds stuff to the water and they especially dont know that fluoride used is an industrial waste byproduct and causes cancer and brain tumors at over 1ppm and theres about 5 times that in most municipal waters..

sure they have been doing it for years, same with the trails but nobody takes the time to see whats in the air, in the water or in the food, and those that do get labeled as kooks..

its amazing that our government has somehow figured out a way to convince us that gov is good, does no wrong and would never do anything to hurt us, when history shows us that every government in the history of the world has proven the contrary.

thats my take at least

FLo

Government doing no harm :: ::

Now there's a myth worth destroying.

As far as stuff causing cancer, and if you drink enough coffee you'll get cancer for sure.

Ironically, most of the tests that are used to determine the carcinogenic or teratogenic effects of chemicals. One should keep in mind that the tests that they conduct to test for carcinogenic or teratogenic effects of chemicals are bacteria, which naturally have much higher mutation rates than higher life forms.

Perhaps the wisest course of action is to take everything with a grain of salt, especially science.

To think that bacteria is the same as animals are the same as humans is insane. Just because we share the same basic chemicals in our dna does not mean that there are great differences between us, when the complexity of that DNA is increased, and that chemicals that cause cancer in one, will cause cancer in the other.

Human Testing Needed... of course, I'm not going to volunteer, or volunteer any one...

 

[Keenly]

Actually it is entirely possible that the storms are being seeded, though I don't know why a jet would be used for that. A more logical choice would be a crop duster.

(Interesting stuff, seeding the atmosphere to guide storms)

As far as the contrails by jets, I think I'll agree with the opinion that the contrails are a normal phenomenon.

As far as the government putting something in our water, that's not news, the government's been adding fluoride to our water for nearly the last century.

So to state that the government is adding something to the water, can only elicit one response, "Where have you been for the last century?"

Now, a more relevant question might be, "Has the government been adding anything else to our water,"

That answer to that, is no, and yes. The government hasn't, but the local water utilities have. Chloride to keep it drinkable, or another chemical (H2O2, I think) and some other treatments.

Of course, as far as the rainbow in the sprinkler goes, natural phenomenon, nothing more nothing less.

I'm not going to explain in depth the phenomenon, because I am assuming that everyone here is familiar with the effect of prisms on light.

you havent seen that video?

the woman is looking at a rainbow and is saying the govenrment is putting things in the water cause of the rainbow

but yeah flouride is old news

i wish i had just pure h20

 

[FLoJo]

i understand all that, but if nothing has been changing explain how we have gone 1 in 33 people had cancer to now 1 in 3 in their lifetimes? to me it would make sense that water with toxins, modified foods, artificial hormones, and plants covered pesticides, air with nitrates and chemicals in it would def. account for these changes.