Does the Northern Lights #5 from the 90’s still exist?

RocketBoy

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Was it really "his" version though? He was just a wholesaler. Not much of a breeder is what I'm getting from everyone involved back then.
It was his select pheno from the NL5 seed line.

People don't understand that the numerical numbering of the NL lines was created for Nevil.. they didn't exist before. The NL guys didn't call the "original NL5" clone "NL5" it was referred to as the "Superclone", which was inferior to Nevil's NL5 clone.
 
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conor c

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It was his select pheno from the NL5 seed line.

People don't understand that the numerical numbering of the NL lines was created for Nevil.. they didn't exist before. The NL guys didn't call the "original NL5" clone "NL5" it was referred to as the "Superclone", which was inferior to Nevil's NL5 clone.
Aye your right mate folk need to face facts like him or hate him you gotta give nevil his dues northern lights wouldnt be what it was without him he made it famous and spread it obviously the nl crew are due there doos too but without him they wouldnt even have it nor without murphys afghan so its the old chicken and egg debate we could also argue its really the afghan farmers that deserve the kudos we all standing on the shoulders of who went before us anyway after all aint we
 

Eastsidesmoke

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Hi everyone, I remember NL as the first strain of dry flower I ever smoked back in the mid 90's. It was a bit trippy and then very sedative. The taste was pine/skunk/citrus. I do remember it was low odour to most green. Peace.
 

Øleg

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So i just posted in a diff thread . NL was around and named in 80s. Thai x afgani i believe , so i first had seen a pound (i was given one bowl) holy lord - saw my dead relatives. It’s was intense. Perhaps other cuts were passed around in 90s
 

Stiickygreen

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I bought 6 clones in 1992 that were sourced from Nederland CO that were being called "Wheelchair Crippler". The buddy I got em from later talked to the guy he got them from and was told that it was actually a pheno found in a pack of "Basic 5" from Super Sativa Seed Club.

Sounds like what @Eastsidesmoke ran across. Same kinda taste profile....and this one had a skunky/pungent smell that would permeate a party. Crack the film container (LOL)...Boom....folks were commenting "I smell skunk" "somebody has the kind". It was definitely a bit trippy. If you only took a few hits you'd get that high end buzz that would eventually drop you into a munchy/indica buzz...but it tasted so good you'd smoke more and then it would hit you with a major body stone/couchlock. It put a lot of folks into a serious zone. Some even asked me if I "put something on there?" LOL. Nope. Just really good dope.
 

conor c

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So i just posted in a diff thread . NL was around and named in 80s. Thai x afgani i believe , so i first had seen a pound (i was given one bowl) holy lord - saw my dead relatives. It’s was intense. Perhaps other cuts were passed around in 90s
Depends on the number of nl you smoked #1 is a pure Afghan hybrid of nevils mazari x murphys afghani line
The# 2 is a kush type
The # 5 was meant to be some Hawaiian line crossed to the #1 or murphys ghani i think but whatever that Hawaiian line was is most likely thai of some sorts the storys changed a few times on that bit but yeah and the #5 was the better yielder of the bunch the 5x2 was the best nl hybrid nevil ever made in his opinion and besides the #1 is the best seedline of nl as well
 

Boatguy

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Depends on the number of nl you smoked #1 is a pure Afghan hybrid of nevils mazari x murphys afghani line
The# 2 is a kush type
The # 5 was meant to be some Hawaiian line crossed to the #1 or murphys ghani i think but whatever that Hawaiian line was is most likely thai of some sorts the storys changed a few times on that bit but yeah and the #5 was the better yielder of the bunch the 5x2 was the best nl hybrid nevil ever made in his opinion and besides the #1 is the best seedline of nl as well
Was kush even a thing then? NL was one of the first named strains i smoked, followed by skunk and super skunk. A few years later nl5 haze came through.. Seems like kush wasnt popular or advertised till much later... here at least
 

conor c

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Was kush even a thing then? NL was one of the first named strains i smoked, followed by skunk and super skunk. A few years later nl5 haze came through.. Seems like kush wasnt popular or advertised till much later... here at least
Real hindu kush yes things like og that are kush hybrids at best no of course they didnt exist yet but true hindu kushes and afghanis hit america in the 70s from all i hear from older growers from over there with the pics to back it up they wouldnt get more wide spread or popular until maybe a lil bit later granted but fact is they would have been there regardless
 

Funkentelechy

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Was kush even a thing then? NL was one of the first named strains i smoked, followed by skunk and super skunk. A few years later nl5 haze came through.. Seems like kush wasnt popular or advertised till much later... here at least
Kush is a region that includes parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan, so Afghani strains collected from the area were referred to as kush long before OG kush. People were growing kush in the States in the 70's, maybe earlier.
 

conor c

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Kush is a region that includes parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan, so Afghani strains collected from the area were referred to as kush long before OG kush. People were growing kush in the States in the 70's, maybe earlier.
Yup also mazari was a thing in cali back then too you need to remember in the 60s and 70s alot of folks did visit India and Afghanistan be it the hippy trail or whatever reason of course some brought seeds back too mazari is the opposite of a kush but it wouldnt suprise me if it was called a kush by some with less exposure/experience to Afghan strains back in the day
 

Boatguy

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Kush is a region that includes parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan, so Afghani strains collected from the area were referred to as kush long before OG kush. People were growing kush in the States in the 70's, maybe earlier.
Still dont remember anything being advertised as kush till after 2000, maybe later.
Nl, nl5haze, skunk, SS, ak, and ww were really the first named strains popular around here. There may be some kush in those genetics, but ogk etc were kinda late to the party... I would love to get my hands on some early jack herer
 

conor c

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Still dont remember anything being advertised as kush till after 2000, maybe later.
Nl, nl5haze, skunk, SS, ak, and ww were really the first named strains popular around here. There may be some kush in those genetics, but ogk etc were kinda late to the party... I would love to get my hands on some early jack herer
Well sam had a version of hindu kush also nevil had some via jim ortega aka kush 4 so they been around a while on the jack front you and me both buddy i miss a old cut a friends dad ran for ages no jack since has come close ime
 

Funkentelechy

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You're right Kushes weren't usually advertised as Kushes. Most folks simply referred to them as Afghani, Pakistani, or Mazari, but weed nerds and breeders did call plants from the Kush region Kushes long before 2000, I think that Hindu Kush was definitely advertised as such earlier than 2000.

OG Kush has very little true kush genetics in it, but it was so good that despite that fact people still referred to it as Kush because the term Kush had already been popularized as being a term for good pot before OG was a thing.

I grew up in a growing region so most people didn't buy from seed catalogs, people just traded strains and didn't bother with names. The name "Kush", or "Skunk" was used a lot back then. Like, "Oh that's that really good Skunk weed that Billy Bob over the hill grows". Not that I had anything to do with it, but, that's kinda similar to how OG got named, it grew with the characteristics of a Kush type plant, so they called it a Kush.

The advantage of growing up in a growing region is that I didn't have to run the legal risks of ordering through a seed catalog, the disadvantage is that I never knew the names of many of the strains that I feel nostalgia for now, or they were strains that were never available in seed catalogs to begin with.

I first grew a cut of Jack Herer in probably 2006, a little late to the game, but it was fantastic.
 

conor c

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You're right Kushes weren't usually advertised as Kushes. Most folks simply referred to them as Afghani, Pakistani, or Mazari, but weed nerds and breeders did call plants from the Kush region Kushes long before 2000, I think that Hindu Kush was definitely advertised as such earlier than 2000.

OG Kush has very little true kush genetics in it, but it was so good that despite that fact people still referred to it as Kush because the term Kush had already been popularized as being a term for good pot before OG was a thing.

I grew up in a growing region so most people didn't buy from seed catalogs, people just traded strains and didn't bother with names. The name "Kush", or "Skunk" was used a lot back then. Like, "Oh that's that really good Skunk weed that Billy Bob over the hill grows". Not that I had anything to do with it, but, that's kinda similar to how OG got named, it grew with the characteristics of a Kush type plant, so they called it a Kush.

The advantage of growing up in a growing region is that I didn't have to run the legal risks of ordering through a seed catalog, the disadvantage is that I never knew the names of many of the strains that I feel nostalgia for now, or they were strains that were never available in seed catalogs to begin with.

I first grew a cut of Jack Herer in probably 2006, a little late to the game, but it was fantastic.
Sensis hindu kush to me is where the best bits of og come from anyway imo as for jack the proper old one was very nice weed shame the right lines of it are rarer these days
 

jimihendrix1

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First time I ever remember anything being Labeled as a Kush, was in 1991.

A buddy of mine was a Eagle Scout Master, and went to a convention, in Louisville, Ky.

He met another Eagle Scout Master there, though he was a bit younger than my buddy. Buddy was about 40, and this guy was maybe 25. But they got onto the subject of weed, andmy buddy told him he grows some, and the guy said he does too, and wanted to give him some seeds, before he went back home. This guy also lived in Louisville.

So long story short. He gave my buddy 2 different strains. 15 seeds each.

One was a Nevils Hashplant x Haze x Skunk 1 x Kush. It was simply labeled Kush.

The other strain was NL5 x Haze x Nevils Hashplant x Sk1. He gave me these seeds, and I gave them to a buddy for a seed increase, and it was the best stuff Id seen in 20 years. Remember, this was 1991, and was, and still is, the best stuff Ive ever seen for indoor weed.

And the strain my buddy kept, wasnt far behind. Mine was more Sativa Dominant in structure, and Buzz. It was early Inside. 7 weeks tops, but outside, it wasnt done until 1st week of November. It would make some people extremely sick, and paranoid. One girl still hates me to this day, because she thinks I put PCP in it. She laid in front of the toilet for 5 hours, dry heaving.

His was more Indica Dominant, as it grew into a small- medium size ush. BOTH strains, were Narrow Leaf.

I lost mine to the feds after growing it about 6-7 years, and he lost his, to bad outcrossing's, and not keeping it pure.

But first time I ever saw, or remember Kush labeled as such, was 1991.
 

conor c

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Seen shantibaba seeds (not the mr nice site) offers a fem nl5 anyone know the script with this one ?
 

Sativied

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Master Kush (Hindu Kush x Skunk #1) won the cannabis cup in NL in '92 and '93. Sold a ton of it. Hindu Kush was around long before that.

Everyone was crossing everything with Sam's skunk back then because it was fatter, stronger, and did well outdoors and indoors. Comparing anything to the early catalogues now makes no sense. Nothing was bred to uniformity, it's all just pollen chucks. Around that time clones were still legal-ish, widely available, seeds weren't a big thing in NL itself yet. So when we grew NL or orange bud or skunk #1, it was just that, a clone of a clone of clone...

NL#5 was the cheap regular stuff, not strong or great by any means, just a good day time smoke.
 

GWilliamsCannabis

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Master Kush (Hindu Kush x Skunk #1) won the cannabis cup in NL in '92 and '93. Sold a ton of it. Hindu Kush was around long before that.

Everyone was crossing everything with Sam's skunk back then because it was fatter, stronger, and did well outdoors and indoors. Comparing anything to the early catalogues now makes no sense. Nothing was bred to uniformity, it's all just pollen chucks. Around that time clones were still legal-ish, widely available, seeds weren't a big thing in NL itself yet. So when we grew NL or orange bud or skunk #1, it was just that, a clone of a clone of clone...

NL#5 was the cheap regular stuff, not strong or great by any means, just a good day time smoke.
As someone who wasn't smoking until the early 2000s I'd agree with you.

Most of the strains everyone is chasing weren't considered top strains by connoisseur smokers at the time.....they were the "cookies" of their time periods; aka the most popular strain....very commercialized.....and more of what the connoisseur smoker avoided unless they could get a small batch grow because in small batch grows those commercialized strains become elites
 
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