Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

BudmanTX

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Guns, abortion, crazy, and Trump going down might add up to the perfect storm for the republicans in Nov of 24. Trump being disqualified and convicted will be traumatic for the base, but there are many republicans in congress who will be relieved when he is jailed and muzzled. Whether they have enough time to memory hole him and put lipstick on the pig remains to be seen. His trials will haunt them during the primaries and election season, so memory holing Donald might not work so well with a TV trial in Georgia next summer. The republican house speaker is the poster boy for anti-abortion and should arouse the ladies of America in a most unpleasant way!
u forgot immigration.....
 

BudmanTX

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While trump is on trial in Georgia running up to the election, foxnews will be anxiously covering yet another "caravan" of migrants as they make their way north to the border... They might even be paying for the gas because the timing needs to be right.
yeah fux will do that, they'll show the same people down in Panama over and over or something like that and make up the numbers as they go. Love how fox new also portrays the border wall, instead of showing like in states like New Mexico, and Arizona, they show San Diego all the time...smh
 

Everytimefoo

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This thread will be popular with the sad little incels that grocery shop with a AR-15. If their dicks actually worked, they would be posting with a hard-on here.
An ar-15 isnt protection from street thugs. Its protection from suit thugs, and they dont want you to have em. Literally every disarmament ever in history was followed by a wayy larger mass killing than 22 people… literally all of them. This also isnt the 5th grade where everyone should pay based on the actions of the few, thats just nuts to me. I’ve ensured to not be a criminal my entire life just so i can be a legal responsible firearm owner and ill fight tooth and nail to ensure my right to bear arms stays intact.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We have few guns in Canada other than hunting rifles, handguns are illegal and so are assault rifles. We have a fraction of the gun deaths that America does, most of our handgun killings are from smuggled guns. If the 2nd amendment is absolute, then the democrats can't pass any gun laws anyway and ya might as well vote for a democrat since they can't do anything about it.

It's a lot of dead kids for paranoia or shits and giggles, guns are the leading cause of death for American children and teens. Those who want to own guns in the future might have their cold dead hand holding it in robodog's jaw pincer when he comes out of the rubble of their house after robocop knocks on the door demanding it. The ATF feds will be down the road in a van having coffee watching the monitor.
 

Fogdog

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An ar-15 isnt protection from street thugs. Its protection from suit thugs, and they dont want you to have em. Literally every disarmament ever in history was followed by a wayy larger mass killing than 22 people… literally all of them. This also isnt the 5th grade where everyone should pay based on the actions of the few, thats just nuts to me. I’ve ensured to not be a criminal my entire life just so i can be a legal responsible firearm owner and ill fight tooth and nail to ensure my right to bear arms stays intact.
balderdash

Australia disarmed and has nothing near the problem the US has with gun violence.
UK disarmed and has nothing near the problem the US has with gun violence.
Canada has strict gun laws and nothing near the problem the US has.
The US has very lenient gun laws and has extremely high rates of gun violence compared to similar nations.

You are jumping to a conclusion that stricter laws on who may purchase a firearm means "take muh gunz". That's just NRA reactionary gun nut sloppy thinking. Also, your post was ignorant.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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balderdash

Australia disarmed and has nothing near the problem the US has with gun violence.
UK disarmed and has nothing near the problem the US has with gun violence.
Canada has strict gun laws and nothing near the problem the US has.
The US has very lenient gun laws and has extremely high rates of gun violence compared to similar nations.

You are jumping to a conclusion that stricter laws on who may purchase a firearm means "take muh gunz". That's just NRA reactionary gun nut sloppy thinking. Also, your post was ignorant.
All kidding aside, I believe that when the pendulum swings to an extreme in one direction, it will swing back with equal force. America is an outlier on guns but for how long? IMO it is not a sustainable or pleasant future, kind of like fossil fuels and climate change. The feds have the constitutional means to effectively ban most firearms through taxation, like they have been doing for over a half a century with machine guns and even artillery. I figure that will be the future mechanism by which it will be done and, in the end, done through the ballot box, the polling numbers are already there. It might be some time down the road, but it will come sooner or later, the experience of all other liberal democracies indicates it will.
 

printer

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We have few guns in Canada other than hunting rifles, handguns are illegal and so are assault rifles. We have a fraction of the gun deaths that America does, most of our handgun killings are from smuggled guns. If the 2nd amendment is absolute, then the democrats can't pass any gun laws anyway and ya might as well vote for a democrat since they can't do anything about it.

It's a lot of dead kids for paranoia or shits and giggles, guns are the leading cause of death for American children and teens. Those who want to own guns in the future might have their cold dead hand holding it in robodog's jaw pincer when he comes out of the rubble of their house after robocop knocks on the door demanding it. The ATF feds will be down the road in a van having coffee watching the monitor.
Wonder how many are few, if my math is right, 30% of the rate of ownership than in the US. Also hand guns are not illegal, they are restricted although no new handguns can be had.

Top 10 Countries with Highest Gun Ownership (Civilian guns owned per 100 people):
  1. United States - 120.5
  2. Falkland Islands - 62.1
  3. Yemen - 52.8
  4. New Caledonia - 42.5
  5. Serbia - 39.1 (tie)
  6. Montenegro - 39.1 (tie)
  7. Uruguay - 34.7 (tie)
  8. Canada - 34.7 (tie)
  9. Cyprus - 34
  10. Finland - 32.4
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Wonder how many are few, if my math is right, 30% of the rate of ownership than in the US. Also hand guns are not illegal, they are restricted although no new handguns can be had.

Top 10 Countries with Highest Gun Ownership (Civilian guns owned per 100 people):
  1. United States - 120.5
  2. Falkland Islands - 62.1
  3. Yemen - 52.8
  4. New Caledonia - 42.5
  5. Serbia - 39.1 (tie)
  6. Montenegro - 39.1 (tie)
  7. Uruguay - 34.7 (tie)
  8. Canada - 34.7 (tie)
  9. Cyprus - 34
  10. Finland - 32.4
Handguns are in effect illegal in Canada now, if you own a handgun, it must be turned in for disposal when you die. In 20 years, there will be a lot fewer of them. Generally, anybody who can currently own a handgun in Canada is not too much of a threat, it is illegal smuggled guns that are the issue. There are not even that many licensed hunters in Canada and long guns with a 5 round limit seem to be working out. It's not the hunters in the woods that are the concern, it's the ones on the streets.

There are some things about gun ownership in America, less 40% of the population has a gun and 10% of the population own a large number of the guns in America, those who collect, hoard or are crazy. Up until the 70's-gun ownership rates in Canada and the US were comparable, after that we became more aligned with other Anglo and European countries. We are not any morally better, it's just that we don't have a 2nd amendment and a corrupted court system that misinterpreted it, or minority rule like in America that enable the insanity south of the border.
 

printer

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Handguns are in effect illegal in Canada now, if you own a handgun, it must be turned in for disposal when you die. In 20 years, there will be a lot fewer of them. Generally, anybody who can currently own a handgun in Canada is not too much of a threat, it is illegal smuggled guns that are the issue. There are not even that many licensed hunters in Canada and long guns with a 5 round limit seem to be working out. It's not the hunters in the woods that are the concern, it's the ones on the streets.

There are some things about gun ownership in America, less 40% of the population has a gun and 10% of the population own a large number of the guns in America, those who collect, hoard or are crazy. Up until the 70's-gun ownership rates in Canada and the US were comparable, after that we became more aligned with other Anglo and European countries. We are not any morally better, it's just that we don't have a 2nd amendment and a corrupted court system that misinterpreted it, or minority rule like in America that enable the insanity south of the border.
There is 1.1 million handguns in Canada. All illegal according to you.

"Up until the 70's-gun ownership rates in Canada and the US were comparable"

Do you have a source for this or are you going with your gut?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There is 1.1 million handguns in Canada. All illegal according to you.

"Up until the 70's-gun ownership rates in Canada and the US were comparable"

Do you have a source for this or are you going with your gut?
Where are you getting your figures on legal handguns?
Because they die with their owner who is background checked and have all kinds of other restrictions on storage and transport etc. Illegal handguns mostly smuggled from the states are another matter. In Canada the currently legal handguns don't kill too many people, the illegal ones do though.

As for comparable gun rates, I read it years ago somewhere, but I suppose it is not hard to check these days.
 

Everytimefoo

Active Member
All kidding aside, I believe that when the pendulum swings to an extreme in one direction, it will swing back with equal force. America is an outlier on guns but for how long? IMO it is not a sustainable or pleasant future, kind of like fossil fuels and climate change. The feds have the constitutional means to effectively ban most firearms through taxation, like they have been doing for over a half a century with machine guns and even artillery. I figure that will be the future mechanism by which it will be done and, in the end, done through the ballot box, the polling numbers are already there. It might be some time down the road, but it will come sooner or later, the experience of all other liberal democracies indicates it will.
So now instead of invading countries for oil we will invade them for lithium the literal new fossil fuel thats in every electronic device, electric car, pharmaceuticals etc. the usa invaded afghanistan after 911 and mined a trillion dollar lithium vein there lol! Climate change and the green agenda just fills the pockets of corporations at your expense that lie cheat steal pollute, and then blame you for it… the ukraine, and russia hold some if the largest lithium stores, im willing to be my bottom dollar theres lithium in israel too hahah hmmm. Now theres a “war” there and we’ll go in and bring “democracy” to them.
 

printer

Well-Known Member
Where are you getting your figures on legal handguns?
Because they die with their owner who is background checked and have all kinds of other restrictions on storage and transport etc. Illegal handguns mostly smuggled from the states are another matter. In Canada the currently legal handguns don't kill too many people, the illegal ones do though.

As for comparable gun rates, I read it years ago somewhere, but I suppose it is not hard to check these days.
"Registered handguns in Canada grew by 71 per cent between 2010 and 2020, totalling an estimated 1.1 million, according to the Canadian government. "

 

DIY-HP-LED

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So now instead of invading countries for oil we will invade them for lithium the literal new fossil fuel thats in every electronic device, electric car, pharmaceuticals etc. the usa invaded afghanistan after 911 and mined a trillion dollar lithium vein there lol! Climate change and the green agenda just fills the pockets of corporations at your expense that lie cheat steal pollute, and then blame you for it… the ukraine, and russia hold some if the largest lithium stores, im willing to be my bottom dollar theres lithium in israel too hahah hmmm. Now theres a “war” there and we’ll go in and bring “democracy” to them.
Actually, I don't think there will be an issue with lithium and green energy means energy independence for many people. It is very disruptive of oil and utility companies with people able to generate and store their own power for home and transportation use. There is plenty of Lithium in America and new ways are being developed to refine it and lot of new battery chemistries don't even use it. Solar is now the cheapest way to generate power by far, we just need to store it with batteries and the factories are going up all over the place.

Ukraine will defeat Russia and drive them from Ukraine after breaking them militarily and economically, it's Joe's plan to finish off Russia as a global player I figure. Even China is starting to act nice and needs the trade with big economic trouble back home.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"Registered handguns in Canada grew by 71 per cent between 2010 and 2020, totalling an estimated 1.1 million, according to the Canadian government. "

Roughly 1 in 40 is better than over 1:1 as in America, but around 40% of the people have guns there. All those legal guns in Canada die with the owner and are turned in or collected upon the owner's death and many are owned by people over 50. It is a lot more trouble and bother to possess any gun in Canada and handguns in particular and unless you are grandfathered in, then handguns are illegal here now.
 
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