Fogdog
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There are some sick but funny people out there.
Trump To Turn Himself In
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Nice, but missing the comma
xtsho
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It's just an opinion piece but Alan Dershowitz makes a compelling argument as to why this is such a weak case. But what does he know about the law. He was only a Harvard Law professor from 1964 until 2013. Not much legal background there but he still makes some good points.
Trump Indictment Case Looks Like a Weak Exercise in Creative Prosecution | Opinion
ALAN DERSHOWITZ , EMERITUS PROFESSOR OF LAW, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL
ON 3/31/23 AT 9:56 AM EDT
When a district attorney who ran as a Democrat and promised to "get" Donald Trump indicts the candidate running for president against the incumbent head of his party, he had better have a slam dunk case. Although we don't know exactly what the Manhattan grand jury indicted Trump for, it seems likely, based on what we know, that this is a very weak case which would never have been brought against anyone else.
If this indictment is based on the hush money paid to a former porn star and the manner by which it was recorded in corporate records, this may be one of the weakest cases in my experience. It is a stale case that appears to be beyond the statute of limitations. The DA may argue that Trump was out of the state continuously during the period of limitations, thus tolling—that is, pausing—the statute of limitations, because the former president couldn't be indicted while out of state. But Trump was indicted while he was in Florida, so he could have been indicted any time over the past 7 years. Why wasn't he?
www.newsweek.com
Trump Indictment Case Looks Like a Weak Exercise in Creative Prosecution | Opinion
ALAN DERSHOWITZ , EMERITUS PROFESSOR OF LAW, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL
ON 3/31/23 AT 9:56 AM EDT
When a district attorney who ran as a Democrat and promised to "get" Donald Trump indicts the candidate running for president against the incumbent head of his party, he had better have a slam dunk case. Although we don't know exactly what the Manhattan grand jury indicted Trump for, it seems likely, based on what we know, that this is a very weak case which would never have been brought against anyone else.
If this indictment is based on the hush money paid to a former porn star and the manner by which it was recorded in corporate records, this may be one of the weakest cases in my experience. It is a stale case that appears to be beyond the statute of limitations. The DA may argue that Trump was out of the state continuously during the period of limitations, thus tolling—that is, pausing—the statute of limitations, because the former president couldn't be indicted while out of state. But Trump was indicted while he was in Florida, so he could have been indicted any time over the past 7 years. Why wasn't he?
Trump Indictment Case Looks Like a Weak Exercise in Creative Prosecution
Previous prosecutors decided not to indict Trump based on the facts available to them. Has new evidence been discovered?
www.newsweek.com
*Edmund
he'll be their bitch
xtsho
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That silly statute of limitations. If they can indict trump now when he's in Florida why couldn't they have done it before the statute of limitations ran out years ago?
Any of you legal experts have the answer?
Case is DOA.
At least the Manhattan DA gets his moment in the sun. He's a household name nationwide now.
Any of you legal experts have the answer?
Case is DOA.
At least the Manhattan DA gets his moment in the sun. He's a household name nationwide now.
change of venue
DIY-HP-LED
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Donald does need good legal help and ya sound like the man for the job, anybody can do better than Taco Joe, who looks like he breaks legs for the mob! Make sure ya get paid up front first though and make sure you too have a lawyer!
Even if ya can't operate inside the courtroom he will still need people defending him to the press on the courthouse steps, I mean other than the rioters trying to storm the place!Carrying Donald's water is not an easy task, the burden grows heavier with each step...
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
of course I think this is a step on the road to what he actually needs.dont hate the player hate the game
so let me get this straight, none of you guys are thinking this could be just what he actually needs, all this chatter and news coverage, and then later he just has more Ammunition for the next election
Wattzzup
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He did predict he wouldn’t be indicted anytime soonDonald does need good legal help and ya sound like the man for the job, anybody can do better than Taco Joe, who looks like he breaks legs for the mob! Make sure ya get paid up front first though and make sure you too have a lawyer!
Carrying Donald's water is not an easy task, the burden grows heavier with each step...
10 days later here we are
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
the bird’s entrails lied.He did predict he wouldn’t be indicted anytime soon
Highway61
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I see right wing media is using the prosecutor's political support to prosecute Trump in New York as evidence of prosecutorial misconduct. But that seems the same to me as prosecutors who run for office promising to go after MS13 or organized crime or any number of perceived criminals or criminal enterprises in the voting district in which the prosecutor runs. The voters of New York are entitled to pick a prosecutor who intends to prosecute the people those voters think are criminals. The voters of NY know Trump well and picked a prosecutor who expects Trump to abide by the law. That's not misconduct any more than when Giuliani went after white collar criminals after campaigning to do so.
And most prosecutors personally dislike the people they prosecute. That's not misconduct either. That's just par for the course. But Trump and the right wing press will cry foul that Trump is being mistreated. And ask for more contributions.
xtsho
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Most states only allow a defendant to move for a change of venue. Georgia does allow for a prosecutor to move for a change under certain circumstances but none of that criteria has been met if trump is indicted in Georgia. And why would a prosecutor bringing an indictment against trump want to change from Fulton county which is the bluest county in Georgia? If anything it would be trump requesting a change of venue.
Even with a change of venue, that does nothing to shield the jurors from harassment. It would actually be more favorable to trump to go on trial in a different county.
You guys just jump without looking.
2021 Georgia Code
Title 17 - Criminal Procedure
Chapter 7 - Pretrial Proceedings
Article 6 - Demurrers, Motions, and Special Pleas and Exceptions
Part 3 - Change of Venue
§ 17-7-150. Procedures for Change of Venue; Transfer of Case; Appeal From Denial of Change of Venue
Universal Citation: GA Code § 17-7-150 (2021)
The prosecuting attorney, in any criminal case in which a trial by jury is provided, may move in writing for a change of venue, whenever, in such prosecuting attorney's judgment, an impartial jury cannot be obtained in the county where the crime is alleged to have been committed if:
- A previous prosecuting attorney has recused himself or herself, been disqualified, or been removed from the case for cause; or
- A local government official has publicly released information prejudicial to the administration of justice which has the potential to have tainted the local jury pool.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Ya gotta respect how much hard work goes into (some people) maintaining an independent front while carrying fascist water.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
oki remind you guys about how i was right in 2025, when he's back in the white house thenwouldn't that be funny if it happened
TY for the info. My idea wasn't solely out of line was it?
Because i neither use chatgpt, nor will i take the time to look before jumping. I'm just not that smart, bruh.
Are you still using it?
And are you a lawyer or something? You whip this board in line like a dean of harvard law school.
printer
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Trump to travel to New York Monday ahead of Tuesday arraignment
Former President Donald Trump is expected to travel to New York on Monday ahead of his scheduled arraignment on Tuesday on still unknown charges, a source familiar with the planning confirmed.
Trump is expected to turn himself in Tuesday morning ahead of the arraignment, which a court spokesperson indicated would be at 2:15 p.m. eastern time.
The Washington Post reported Friday that Secret Service agents were at the Manhattan courthouse where Trump will turn himself in, to tour the site and determine how the former president will get in and out securely.
Authorities are preparing for a frenzied atmosphere given the media attention and possible protests that will accompany Trump’s arraignment.
A grand jury voted earlier Thursday to indict Trump on criminal charges for his role in organizing hush money payments made to an adult film star during his 2016 campaign.
The indictment, which remains under seal, follows an investigation by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) that centered on a $130,000 payment fixer Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels shortly before the election.
Joe Tacopina, an attorney representing Trump in the case, has said he does not expect Trump to be handcuffed. But other details remain unknown, including whether he will have his mugshot and fingerprints taken.
New York state law does not allow for the public distribution of mugshots.
Trump is expected to be released after his arraignment on Tuesday because the charges against him do not include any violent felonies. He does not have any rallies or campaign events currently scheduled for next week.
thehill.com
Trump is selling limited seating to watch him getting booked. $250k a pop. Along with it comes a signed set of prints.
Former President Donald Trump is expected to travel to New York on Monday ahead of his scheduled arraignment on Tuesday on still unknown charges, a source familiar with the planning confirmed.
Trump is expected to turn himself in Tuesday morning ahead of the arraignment, which a court spokesperson indicated would be at 2:15 p.m. eastern time.
The Washington Post reported Friday that Secret Service agents were at the Manhattan courthouse where Trump will turn himself in, to tour the site and determine how the former president will get in and out securely.
Authorities are preparing for a frenzied atmosphere given the media attention and possible protests that will accompany Trump’s arraignment.
A grand jury voted earlier Thursday to indict Trump on criminal charges for his role in organizing hush money payments made to an adult film star during his 2016 campaign.
The indictment, which remains under seal, follows an investigation by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) that centered on a $130,000 payment fixer Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels shortly before the election.
Joe Tacopina, an attorney representing Trump in the case, has said he does not expect Trump to be handcuffed. But other details remain unknown, including whether he will have his mugshot and fingerprints taken.
New York state law does not allow for the public distribution of mugshots.
Trump is expected to be released after his arraignment on Tuesday because the charges against him do not include any violent felonies. He does not have any rallies or campaign events currently scheduled for next week.
Trump to travel to New York Monday ahead of Tuesday arraignment
Former President Donald Trump is expected to travel to New York on Monday ahead of his scheduled arraignment on Tuesday on still unknown charges, a source familiar with the planning confirmed. Trum…
thehill.com
Trump is selling limited seating to watch him getting booked. $250k a pop. Along with it comes a signed set of prints.
xtsho
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Alan Dershowitz is not right wing media. He's an intelligent Law Professor. He's definitely not right wing. He's a Democrat and knows more about the law than anyone posting here.
A true blue anti trump Democrat that taught Law at Harvard for 50 years thinks this is an extremely weak case. Let alone his stance that the statute of limitations has ran out. People that don't even know basic law terminology on here calling me some kind of maniac attempting to overthrow the government when they could be educating themselves. You can lead a horse to water...
"Dershowitz is a member of the Democratic Party. In 2016, he said that if Keith Ellison were appointed party chair, he would leave the party; Tom Perez was appointed instead. Dershowitz endorsed Hillary Clinton in the 2008 presidential election, and later endorsed the nominee, Barack Obama. He opposed the impeachment of Bill Clinton and said that he voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election. Dershowitz campaigned against Trump during the 2016 election and has been critical of many of his actions, including his travel ban, his rescission of protections for "Dreamers", and his failure to single out white nationalists for their provocations during protests in Charlottesville. Comparing Trump unfavorably to Hillary Clinton in October 2016, Dershowitz said, "I think there's no comparison between who has engaged in more corruption and who is more likely to continue that if elected President of the United States."