The problem with libs/dems

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FredH

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shimbob said:
All this banter and not even one mention of what will happen when/if Griswold vs Connecticut gets overturned as well. All the stupid "hur dur use protection!" comments when States will be able to ban protection.
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Clutch your pearls!
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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FredH said:
An actual Classical liberal or the common distortion by the left of calling leftist scum liberals? This is classic liberalism.

Classical liberalism
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on limited government, economic freedom, and political freedom.Wikipedia
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Classical but also social.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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FredH said:
An actual Classical liberal or the common distortion by the left of calling leftist scum liberals? This is classic liberalism.

Classical liberalism
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on limited government, economic freedom, and political freedom.Wikipedia
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https://www.google.com/search?

q=is+wikipedia+reliable&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
Fred fails again
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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FredH said:
Once again the far reach and justifying everything on the off chance of something happening. So why not have and raise the child? Kids are pretty neat actually. What is it with you leftists and making men infertile? Some sort of sickness?
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Obviously you just want to argue I didn’t say to make them infertile I said if you invade peoples rights like that and monitor them like that you might as well do away with our constitution just do a.i. and make men infertile not saying we should do that but if it came to them stripping peoples rights away to monitor sexual contact they might as well go all the way. Also I do have children and cherish them we are arguing points and perspective not our lives as they are.
 
HydoDan

HydoDan

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FredH said:
An actual Classical liberal or the common distortion by the left of calling leftist scum liberals? This is classic liberalism.

Classical liberalism
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on limited government, economic freedom, and political freedom.Wikipedia
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As per political analysts, the right-wingers are conservatives, right-libertarians, neoconservatives, imperialists, monarchists, fascists, reactionaries and traditionalists.
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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Also I’m very much not a leftist it’s people who throw that shit out there like that that are the problem sir I’m an American who has a opinion and right to express it if you feel I’m a leftist for being open to political change and forward thinking then I guess I am and I guess if your not your the problem if history has shown us one thing change happens whether you want it to or not so being open to it and more excepting makes more sense to me then fighting the change and having roll over you
 
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Grampah

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Grandpapy said:
LOL at what age did you become "responsible"?
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Since day one of having sex until I was in a position where I was ready to be a father. It’s not hard to see how having a kid when you’re not ready will throw your whole life for a loop. Not to mention I’ve always made sure the women I dated were on the pill until I met the old lady and we decided we were in a good position to bring my daughter into the world. My apologies for being level headed and collected, I guess I’m light years ahead of the rest of you who don’t know how to use the big head
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Grampah said:
Since day one of having sex until I was in a position where I was ready to be a father. It’s not hard to see how having a kid when you’re not ready will throw your whole life for a loop. Not to mention I’ve always made sure the women I dated were on the pill until I met the old lady and we decided we were in a good position to bring my daughter into the world. My apologies for being level headed and collected, I guess I’m light years ahead of the rest of you who don’t know how to use the big head
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Yeah I am sure discussing birth control and abortion were common topics on your dates
Haha
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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Grampah said:
Since day one of having sex until I was in a position where I was ready to be a father. It’s not hard to see how having a kid when you’re not ready will throw your whole life for a loop. Not to mention I’ve always made sure the women I dated were on the pill until I met the old lady and we decided we were in a good position to bring my daughter into the world. My apologies for being level headed and collected, I guess I’m light years ahead of the rest of you who don’t know how to use the big head
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Nobody is ever truly ready to have a child when they do no matter what you tell yourself. I had two a boy and girl three years apart am financially stable short and long term have a busy career and a woman who loves me and helps in every way and we had our kids as planned but still not ready for what life throws at you with kids. They are older now not so much babies but older still my babies though and they still throw curve balls at me every day. I want my daughter to have a right to choose what’s right for her and her body I do and will teach about safe sex and how to properly enjoy life but to be cautious and careful. This argument is dumb. We as humans have no right to dictate what rights another law abiding citizen should have.
 
Dorian2

Dorian2

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FredH said:
I see the correlation is between a leftist couple having consensual sex and drunk driving. I stand corrected.
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Explain to me what a "Leftist" is and then let me know how the word got into your response to my post please. Are you saying that Grandpa is a Leftist? Or are you calling me a Leftist?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Grampah said:
8 months ago they’re out there preaching kill the unvaxxed, get your shot do as I and your government say, your bodily autonomy does not matter!!!
As of Friday… the government has no right to take away your bodily autonomy!! They’re taking us back to the dark ages!!! Women aren’t smart enough to use contraceptives and we rely one telling our girlfriends to get abortions so we can remove all sense of responsibility from our own neglect!!

Modern libs and dems are the most hypocritical Neanderthals the world has ever seen.
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By your own logic, Repubs are equally hypocritical, in that they don't support a woman's right to choose, but they do support a person's right to personal choice when it comes to vaccines.
 
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Grampah

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Hiphophippo said:
Nobody is ever truly ready to have a child when they do no matter what you tell yourself. I had two a boy and girl three years apart am financially stable short and long term have a busy career and a woman who loves me and helps in every way and we had our kids as planned but still not ready for what life throws at you with kids. They are older now not so much babies but older still my babies though and they still throw curve balls at me every day. I want my daughter to have a right to choose what’s right for her and her body I do and will teach about safe sex and how to properly enjoy life but to be cautious and careful. This argument is dumb. We as humans have no right to dictate what rights another law abiding citizen should have.
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Well if you teach her right she’ll never have the need to get an abortion because she has all the knowledge and tools at her disposal to have the fun human experience and prevent pregnancy until she thinks it’s the right time. And yes they do throw you curveballs and you’re making it up as you go along but you made the conscious choice to enter into that life. If parents actually sit down with their kids and prepare them for life so they don’t fuck up then there’s no need to even make that choice unless there’s serious life threatening complications arising from it. The problem is normalizing it like it’s okay it’s a procedure and you go about your life, there are women out there that just do what they please cause it’s a quick fix. It’s a lack of ethics and complete disregard for responsibility and that’s my quarrel with it. Under certain circumstances it’s a necessary but for the most part it’s avoidable by so many measures that it can be practically off the table instead of being a service
 
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