Any ideas on lower leaves

Robert venneri

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getting some discolored leaves
Any ideas on the issue
Using fox farm ocean
Trying to keep temp at 75
Humidity at 65
Have not fed anything
Help please
Bob v
 

Wastei

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It is fox farm ocean forest right out of the bag
Any thoughts on how to fix what i have or just start over
I'm sorry to hear that. A lot of people have been experiencing the same with Fox farm soil mixes. You could probably still grow in it though. I think your pH is off but that's just a guess? Do you use tap water? Cheers!
 

Rurumo

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How long have the plants been growing? Also, what light are they under? Is 75 as cold as they get at night?
 

calvin.m16

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Fox Farms Soil is trash literally residential compost. I would look into another soil and for now possibly water less unless the pic was taken right after you watered. You don't want that soil to be very wet it's like a bog as it is. Looks possibly overwatered and usually you'll see the lower leaves yellow first when that happens.
 

Hiphophippo

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You don’t have enough perspiration with temp and humidity at those numbers probly drowning the roots somewhere and also I agree with top post about the soil it doesn’t look good if that is fox farm OF then it’s a bad batch I’ve never seen it with that much wood
 

calvin.m16

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You don’t have enough perspiration with temp and humidity at those numbers probly drowning the roots somewhere and also I agree with top post about the soil it doesn’t look good if that is fox farm OF then it’s a bad batch I’ve never seen it with that much wood
All FFOF is a bad batch. Smells like dog shit and unless people have a reliable source somewhere its all junk. I've gotten bags in 2019 with fish hooks, big rusty metal chunks and all sorts of bullsh*t and that's when I switched to Coco and never looked back. Also, a huge majority of newbie threads are plants looking like this in FFOF idk why grow shops recommend FFOF to start with.
 

Hiphophippo

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All FFOF is a bad batch. Smells like dog shit and unless people have a reliable source somewhere its all junk. I've gotten bags in 2019 with fish hooks, big rusty metal chunks and all sorts of bullsh*t and that's when I switched to Coco and never looked back.
I build my own soil so couldn’t agree more most store soils need to be checked and amended if you do buy them it’s a shame businesses don’t hold themselves to the standards they preach
 

calvin.m16

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Are those gnat larvae that’s why you don’t bring in untreated soil that would just infest your whole tent
It goes bag by bag on what kind of larvaes you get. They should call it grow your own bugs. I've used Michigan Made Mix super soil $10 per/cuft not sure if that's a respectable price? That stuff was always fresh clean and dry. I even watered it with straight RO without issues.. Just you gotta use a lot of it for bloom unless you plan to feed it liquid fertilizer later on.

Their website prices are insane, in store I only pay $20/bag.
 

Kgrim

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Hopefully they survive until transplant time. I did Fox Farms soil ONCE, and will never use it again, worst crap I ever spent a dime on. I'll stick with my Pro-Mix HP, it's never given me an issue. There has been post after post asking "what's wrong" and the common denominator in most of them is Fox Farm soils. It's too bad that people don't do some researching before purchasing, it's mostly "the guy at the grow shop said to use this" and they have nothing but issues with Fox Farm soils.
 

calvin.m16

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Hopefully they survive until transplant time. I did Fox Farms soil ONCE, and will never use it again, worst crap I ever spent a dime on. I'll stick with my Pro-Mix HP, it's never given me an issue. There has been post after post asking "what's wrong" and the common denominator in most of them is Fox Farm soils. It's too bad that people don't do some researching before purchasing, it's mostly "the guy at the grow shop said to use this" and they have nothing but issues with Fox Farm soils.
Yeah it's sad because they still haven't fixed the issues in years. If you search "FFOF Issue" on the forum there are pages of threads and they all have similar looking plants.
 

Kgrim

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It goes bag by bag on what kind of larvaes you get. They should call it grow your own bugs. I've used Michigan Made Mix super soil $10 per/cuft not sure if that's a respectable price? That stuff was always fresh clean and dry. I even watered it with straight RO without issues.. Just you gotta use a lot of it for bloom unless you plan to feed it liquid fertilizer later on.

Their website prices are insane, in store I only pay $20/bag.
Check growgreenmi.com for M3, it was "on sale" in their Dank Deals section for a good price with free shipping. Don't know if it's still part of the Dank Deals right now, but has been the last couple of weeks.
 

calvin.m16

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Check growgreenmi.com for M3, it was "on sale" in their Dank Deals section for a good price with free shipping. Don't know if it's still part of the Dank Deals right now, but has been the last couple of weeks.
I'm a GGM regular. I get it from JDs Garden Supply for $20/bag. I was using the m3 for clones but switched to mother earth coco/perlite. I have been running CYCO for a long time but have been having good results so far with Jack's so hopefully I can cut my nutrient costs by 90% lol... We'll see how the smoke is with Jack's.
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