Paul-n-Chukka

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Oompa Loompiff @6wks. The final dwarf piff s2 remaining with a laughable growth rate and what i assume will be a puny yield. But it least it smells good & loud.
75% liver
20% soap
5% frankincense
So i might hit it with some pollen from Magic Spirit Seed Co (piffs1 x a5/thai bx).
Maybe docD's can help bulk it up and give it some vigor.

btw.. the other 3 dwarves were easy culling. No regrets.
 

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Piffcoastfarms

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Oompa Loompiff @6wks. The final dwarf piff s2 remaining with a laughable growth rate and what i assume will be a puny yield. But it least it smells good & loud.
75% liver
20% soap
5% frankincense
So i might hit it with some pollen from Magic Spirit Seed Co (piffs1 x a5/thai bx).
Maybe docD's can help bulk it up and give it some vigor.

btw.. the other 3 dwarves were easy culling. No regrets.
you are aware the PiffS1 cut doc d used is the same one that was used in the S2s
 

Paul-n-Chukka

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you are aware the PiffS1 cut doc d used is the same one that was used in the S2s
Yes i am. But D didn't sell selfed seeds from the cut. Nor has he said that it is not a hybrid ....as PiffCoast tried say on IG. He says, Its not a hybrid... Its straight piff . Haha and im sure it smokes good. But the piff coast reversals are vigorless, 50% mutated, and pheno expressions are all over the place.
I bet nobody knows how many generations of bagseed were grown out prior to one being labeled an S1.
 

Devils34

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Yes i am. But D didn't sell selfed seeds from the cut. Nor has he said that it is not a hybrid ....as PiffCoast tried say on IG. He says, Its not a hybrid... Its straight piff . Haha and im sure it smokes good. But the piff coast reversals are vigorless, 50% mutated, and pheno expressions are all over the place.
I bet nobody knows how many generations of bagseed were grown out prior to one being labeled an S1.
Theres never bagseed to be found....for 3 years i sold nothing but piff and didnt ever find a single seed in any of the phenos i had.

So, im doubtful anyone ran bag seeds....but someone definitely acquired a cut from THE source and reversed it......but maybe piff just doesnt like being reversed or fucked with at all during the grow process? I dont know.

Unfortunately we can only take piffcoasts word for it... But seeing how many legit guys run the Piff s1 or s2.....id say his word is solid based off that.
 

pepe_le_pewke

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Yes i am. But D didn't sell selfed seeds from the cut. Nor has he said that it is not a hybrid ....as PiffCoast tried say on IG. He says, Its not a hybrid... Its straight piff . Haha and im sure it smokes good. But the piff coast reversals are vigorless, 50% mutated, and pheno expressions are all over the place.
I bet nobody knows how many generations of bagseed were grown out prior to one being labeled an S1.
Did the pack you bought from PCF come unlabelled or did you knowingly by an S2? Aren’t all of the things you listed , e.g. lacking vigor, mutations, and phenos all over the place.. par for the course when running selfed seeds? You’re acting like you had no idea what you were buying.
 

Paul-n-Chukka

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Did the pack you bought from PCF come unlabelled or did you knowingly by an S2? Aren’t all of the things you listed , e.g. lacking vigor, mutations, and phenos all over the place.. par for the course when running selfed seeds? You’re acting like you had no idea what you were buying.
No i didn't know the s1 wasn't a true S1 prior to getting the so-called s2 beans directly from PiffCoasts site.
 

Paul-n-Chukka

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How does that show it came from bag seeds? Did you find the seed yourself?
Piff s1 came from Mass. grown haze bagseed. Its on other forums as fact. When I mentioned it there was plenty of east coasters who said it was a known and accepted fact. I guess they just don't know what S1 really means.
Someone named the bagseed cut as "piff s1". There was never a single strain called piff. So to call an accidental rodelization of unnamed haze by that name was misleading. By perpetuating the incorrect name into "S2" when it was reversed was wrong(er). It could be called an S1 of the cut called Piff S1.
Piff phenos are found in haze a / northern lights hybrids. Which i say the "piff s1" is from A5 . But how many rodelized gens ago ? And if you don't understand what overselfing does to chromosomes then were done.
Deflect all you want.
 
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