Please help, first time grower! I think my plants have Iron deficiency / Nutrient lockout

Wattzzup

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So let's circle back to the "You might want to reconsider giving out coco advice" post.

And no.
You know a guy made a comment on here the other day about you calling people out. Soooo many people on here give advice before they even know what’s going on. When you ask them a few basic questions, they crumble. The same reason people think @bk78 is a prick.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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You know a guy made a comment on here other day about you calling people out. Soooo many people on here give advice before they even know what’s going on. When you ask them a few basic questions, they crumble. The same reason people think @bk78 is a prick.
I'm sure they did. Probably why I got in trouble. People don't want to hear the truth.
 

Week4@inCharge

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Man, I'm sorry I asked hahahaha didn't want to start shit in the grow community hahaha just blame me I'm the idiot here.
your good, we're here to help. I'm the new kid on the block so some push n shove is normal. All this is just a hobby for me, I'm a regular 9 to 5 guy who grows cause he's to old to mountain bike anymore. :(
 

Masterdank420

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You're good man. People can do coco with organics, but I haven't seen many do it well. I love organics with peat based soil though. My basement is full of dry amendments.
I used coco to do organics and got good results. It's more work cause you gotta water more often and basically turn your coco into soil with shitty water retention. There's almost no room for error. Better to save a step and just use the soil. I switched over to pro mix when eventually ran outta my bales of coco. So much easier, i can water em and leave em do their thing for a few days.
 

Week4@inCharge

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I used coco to do organics and got good results. It's more work cause you gotta water more often and basically turn your coco into soil with shitty water retention. There's almost no room for error. Better to save a step and just use the soil. I switched over to pro mix when eventually ran outta my bales of coco. So much easier, i can water em and leave em do their thing for a few days.
You know, come to think about it, I don't think I've ever ran a 100% coco run before, the last grow had a mix of coco in it, peat moss and coco with that Mycorrihazae stuff in it. Little tricky to use with no knowledge (at the time) of the soils pH. Did some research and found that 100% coco runs are inert and don't really hold a PH (like soil does) hence the importance of managing the watering's pH, so..is that solid or just Bro Science.
 

Masterdank420

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You know, come to think about it, I don't think I've ever ran a 100% coco run before, the last grow had a mix of coco in it, peat moss and coco with that Mycorrihazae stuff in it. Little tricky to use with no knowledge (at the time) of the soils pH. Did some research and found that 100% coco runs are inert and don't really hold a PH (like soil does) hence the importance of managing the watering's pH, so..is that solid or just Bro Science.
You did some reading, not research. The microbes in the soil and the peat as well as the mycorrhizae help to buffer the soils ph unlike coco coir. That's why when growing organics in soil it's not as important to ph the water unless it's extremely off. below 6 is too acidic and above 7.8 is too alkaline. My well water fluctuates between 7.3-7.6 with no issues. When growing organics in coco I did lower the ph to 6.5 every time. Not sure if this answers your question.
 

Billytheluther

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You did some reading, not research. The microbes in the soil and the peat as well as the mycorrhizae help to buffer the soils ph unlike coco coir. That's why when growing organics in soil it's not as important to ph the water unless it's extremely off. below 6 is too acidic and above 7.8 is too alkaline. My well water fluctuates between 7.3-7.6 with no issues. When growing organics in coco I did lower the ph to 6.5 every time. Not sure if this answers your question.
another victim of canuck
 

Week4@inCharge

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You did some reading, not research. The microbes in the soil and the peat as well as the mycorrhizae help to buffer the soils ph unlike coco coir. That's why when growing organics in soil it's not as important to ph the water unless it's extremely off. below 6 is too acidic and above 7.8 is too alkaline. My well water fluctuates between 7.3-7.6 with no issues. When growing organics in coco I did lower the ph to 6.5 every time. Not sure if this answers your question.
So 100% Coco is inert and not suitable for organics, doable not suitable.... ??
 
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