Will I get better results moving to hydro from Soiless DTW?

Milky Weed

Milky Weed

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Hey everyone. Been having a lot of fun getting into the hobby.

Im not going to toss everything and switch right away as I still feel I have a ton to learn with just DTW Soiless that I can improve on. I think I’m going to try and get a grip on each growing style before I move into the next one.

Anyways my question.
Is hydro a lot faster to “tune in” than DTW peat? In terms of correcting/experimenting trying to get the nutrients right?

I think it’s just because I’m new but I’m having a hard time keeping my plants in that golden zone. I will get perfect growth for maybe a week tops before something else starts to change due to size increases or something else, and I start getting unhappy fan leaf’s.

I guess I’m saying I’m having a hard time finding a solid ratio of nutes for atleast the entire length of veg then switching to more potassium and phos laden nutes.

They actually did the best last time when I was using some of the bloom nutes mixed with veg nutes.

Question #2, Does anyone out there use one ratio of nutes for the whole life cycle and just increase strength in flower? That would be really nice.

In the meantime I’m going to see if the ratios I used in early flower will work for veg this round just toned down.

Just realized I probably should have put this in the hydro section but I can’t delete it. Oh well!

Happy tokin :bigjoint:
 
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MerleFC

MerleFC

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Milky Weed said:
Hey everyone. Been having a lot of fun getting into the hobby.

Im not going to toss everything and switch right away as I still feel I have a ton to learn with just DTW Soiless that I can improve on. I think I’m going to try and get a grip on each growing style before I move into the next one.

Anyways my question.
Is hydro a lot faster to “tune in” than DTW peat? In terms of correcting/experimenting trying to get the nutrients right?

I think it’s just because I’m new but I’m having a hard time keeping my plants in that golden zone. I will get perfect growth for maybe a week tops before something else starts to change due to size increases or something else, and I start getting unhappy fan leaf’s.

I guess I’m saying I’m having a hard time finding a solid ratio of nutes for atleast the entire length of veg then switching to more potassium and phos laden nutes.

They actually did the best last time when I was using some of the bloom nutes mixed with veg nutes.

Question #2, Does anyone out there use one ratio of nutes for the whole life cycle and just increase strength in flower? That would be really nice.

In the meantime I’m going to see if the ratios I used in early flower will work for veg this round just toned down.

Just realized I probably should have put this in the hydro section but I can’t delete it. Oh well!

Happy tokin :bigjoint:
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I believe you will see tent's and most water systems are small grows. You need a room Big enough to get a big yeld
 
MerleFC

MerleFC

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I'm a TLO grower and nothing is like it. No harshness in your throat. Clean weed. All them different chemicals are literally being shuved up the plants ass. TLO your microbes and paricites will deliver what the plant needs no matter what is in the soil
 
MerleFC

MerleFC

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Milky Weed said:
Hey everyone. Been having a lot of fun getting into the hobby.

Im not going to toss everything and switch right away as I still feel I have a ton to learn with just DTW Soiless that I can improve on. I think I’m going to try and get a grip on each growing style before I move into the next one.

Anyways my question.
Is hydro a lot faster to “tune in” than DTW peat? In terms of correcting/experimenting trying to get the nutrients right?

I think it’s just because I’m new but I’m having a hard time keeping my plants in that golden zone. I will get perfect growth for maybe a week tops before something else starts to change due to size increases or something else, and I start getting unhappy fan leaf’s.

I guess I’m saying I’m having a hard time finding a solid ratio of nutes for atleast the entire length of veg then switching to more potassium and phos laden nutes.

They actually did the best last time when I was using some of the bloom nutes mixed with veg nutes.

Question #2, Does anyone out there use one ratio of nutes for the whole life cycle and just increase strength in flower? That would be really nice.

In the meantime I’m going to see if the ratios I used in early flower will work for veg this round just toned down.

Just realized I probably should have put this in the hydro section but I can’t delete it. Oh well!

Happy tokin :bigjoint:
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You'll stunt growth if you mix bloom with veg brother...... Nitrogen have looked into that? Is your roots white or kinda brown or a lot brown
 
StareCase

StareCase

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I thought "DTW" stood for the Detroit Metropolitan Airport on I-94 in Wayne County, MI.

What peat mix(es) have you used? What nute line are you using?
 
Rurumo

Rurumo

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I think you'll find quite the opposite. It will be difficult going from DTW to pure hydro, you'll have to jump through a lot more hoops and have less leeway when it comes to your source water. Usually people move from hydro to coco/peat DTW and end up loving the comparative simplicity. It's simple enough to set up a single plant DWC grow if you want to try it out though, I just wouldn't spend a lot of money until you dip your feet in to see if it's for you.
 
myke

myke

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Rurumo said:
I think you'll find quite the opposite. It will be difficult going from DTW to pure hydro, you'll have to jump through a lot more hoops and have less leeway when it comes to your source water. Usually people move from hydro to coco/peat DTW and end up loving the comparative simplicity. It's simple enough to set up a single plant DWC grow if you want to try it out though, I just wouldn't spend a lot of money until you dip your feet in to see if it's for you.
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Ya most end up chasing pH in hydro that they get sick of it.Then switch to DTW.
 
GreenPyramid

GreenPyramid

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Milky Weed said:
Hey everyone. Been having a lot of fun getting into the hobby.

Im not going to toss everything and switch right away as I still feel I have a ton to learn with just DTW Soiless that I can improve on. I think I’m going to try and get a grip on each growing style before I move into the next one.

Anyways my question.
Is hydro a lot faster to “tune in” than DTW peat? In terms of correcting/experimenting trying to get the nutrients right?

I think it’s just because I’m new but I’m having a hard time keeping my plants in that golden zone. I will get perfect growth for maybe a week tops before something else starts to change due to size increases or something else, and I start getting unhappy fan leaf’s.

I guess I’m saying I’m having a hard time finding a solid ratio of nutes for atleast the entire length of veg then switching to more potassium and phos laden nutes.

They actually did the best last time when I was using some of the bloom nutes mixed with veg nutes.

Question #2, Does anyone out there use one ratio of nutes for the whole life cycle and just increase strength in flower? That would be really nice.

In the meantime I’m going to see if the ratios I used in early flower will work for veg this round just toned down.

Just realized I probably should have put this in the hydro section but I can’t delete it. Oh well!

Happy tokin :bigjoint:
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I don’t know about soilless DTW, but I switched away from a fancy PA hydroponics rDWC system to soil and would never look back. In an ideal world and enough room I would run both medias as they both have pros and cons. I love how I can leave my rDWC on autorun for 2 weeks with a 30 gal top off reservoir, that’s just not possible with soil without a complex drip and DTW system.

Mainly, the buzz, scent & taste is much better with soil based buds and it’s much easier to grow regular seeds in soil as male plants are easier to kill off than rDWC hydro plants as their roots might be interconnected by the time sex shows up. Overall, soil/soilless is superior for pheno hunting.

I would say hydro might be good to run if you have clones or fems.
 
Billy the Mountain

Billy the Mountain

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GreenPyramid said:
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Mainly, the buzz, scent & taste is much better with soil based buds and it’s much easier to grow regular seeds in soil as male plants are easier to kill off than rDWC hydro plants as their roots might be interconnected by the time sex shows up. Overall, soil/soilless is superior for pheno hunting.

I would say hydro might be good to run if you have clones or fems.
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Utter nonsense
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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myke said:
Ya most end up chasing pH in hydro that they get sick of it.Then switch to DTW.
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Shit, reminds of grow nightmares lol. Chasing everything, testing everything, refilling everything, on and on and on. F that. So much work so she can live in water. Whatever.

DTW soil in 3g pots. Easy livin :blsmoke:
 
Milky Weed

Milky Weed

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StareCase said:
I thought "DTW" stood for the Detroit Metropolitan Airport on I-94 in Wayne County, MI.

What peat mix(es) have you used? What nute line are you using?
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So far I’ve used commercial baled peat mixed with vermiculite and perlite with dolomite lime, and right now I’m using pro mix bx mycorrhiza and It works great so far.

I sorta grabbed the wrong nutes, I should have grabbed jacks 1-2-3 but ended up with a bag of 20-10-20 and a 7-15-37. I’ve gotten it to work but I can never crank my lights up high.

@Rurumo thats what I was thinking. I have a bunch of baked clay balls around, a pump and a bubbler. Was just thinking about what it would entail.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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you'd get better results ditching the peat and going coco coir...
i've been growing in coco hempy buckets for a long time, and it's hard to fuck it up.
my major concern with rdwc is that if one plant has a problem, the whole system has a problem, one plant with a root problem turns into all your plants have a root problem...
i think dtw is a lot more stable, and each unit is self contained. i turn off my blumats the last three weeks of a plants life, and hand water them with half strength nutes, to keep them from foxtailing, and to not waste full strength nutrient solution on plants that don't need it anymore, can't do that with rdwc
 
Milky Weed

Milky Weed

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Well 3-2-1 is on the list, and hempy buckets look nice. It’s amazing how many ways there are to grow.

Definitely got some stuff to think about, I’m probably going to shelf the hydro for a rainy day. Keeping the res cool seems to be the biggest turnoff to me.
 
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