twentyeight.threefive
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Yet you wouldn't consider using coco because it has to be shipped...
Please stop using peat products
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speedwell68
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I can get them on Amazon for £0.80/L if I buy a 40L sack.
thumper60
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With out burning it i dont see how all this carbon is being released same with wood, coal,oil?
EarthAngel
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you're admittedly an ecological nihilist? yet you still muster up the balls to harass grocery baggers into personalizing your experience? why not recycle the bags yourself?
Herb & Suds
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mudballs
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Nihlist? Yes it's all disposable, including me, you, everything...the world will balance itself when pushed to the edge and since i love God more than you, or any of the other fkn retards that complicate my daily life, i want Earth to bitch slap us even faster...but i will be able to stand in front of you and everyone here and say "bitch i did my part"
speedwell68
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What is the point of shipping in Coco when there is an equally good alternative produced locally and costing less? There isn't a locally produced alternative to Perlite. Having learned how Perlite and Vermiculite are produced Rice hulls appear to have a lower carbon footprint despite being shipped. But I haven't said I am going to buy it yet, I am merely investigating the implications of it.
TBH I have enough Perlite to last me for several years already and I reckon if I did buy Rice Hulls a 40L sack would last for so long it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I use 0.5L of Perlite in 13.5L of soil. So if Rice Hulls are used in a similar quantity a 40L sack would do 80 plants last for about 4 years.
speedwell68
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Peatland destruction is releasing vast amounts of CO<SUB>2</SUB>
Draining and burning the world's peat bogs emits carbon dioxide equivalent to over 10% of that released from burning fossil fuels, says a report
"When peat comes into contact with air, its carbon combines with oxygen in the decomposition process, and is released as carbon dioxide."
OneMoreRip
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global warming is real. Bill nye the science guy told me so and he knows science, just look at his name. Plus he on tv so you know he’s not a douche
geo engineering fake, they just say the do it and there so many persistent con trails the sky not even blue anymore
speedwell68
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As much as I would like to live in the USA, it really is a fantastic country, sadly I am quite far away from Arkansas. I'm about 3,500 miles to the right.
twentyeight.threefive
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Your locally produced medium isn't as good as coco.
You still need to have a filler shipped in for aeration.
I can have coco shipped in and used as-is.
If you were that worried about the environment you wouldn't be growing indoors at all. But of you think buying a local product is helping and making you feel better then go for it.
OneMoreRip
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And yeah fuck me I bought a bag of peat like a dipshit. Pretty sure every cocksucker soil maker (corporation), uses peat. I’m only usin dirt from my back yard or drive to forest nearby and dig some up, probably amazing, that’s why we don’t hear about it other than must be full of parasites that will eat our plants house and families all in a day
edit to say I was ignorant at the time
edit to say I was ignorant at the time
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Its digging too tho they say when you disturb the earth it does the same thing i remember seeing a no dig /no till thing they were talking about it and good shout for amazon didnt even think to try there lol cheersPeatland destruction is releasing vast amounts of CO<SUB>2</SUB>
Draining and burning the world's peat bogs emits carbon dioxide equivalent to over 10% of that released from burning fossil fuels, says a reportwww.newscientist.com
"When peat comes into contact with air, its carbon combines with oxygen in the decomposition process, and is released as carbon dioxide."
Thats cos its the best
You not finding it messing with your ph the needles can be pretty acidic ?
lusidghost
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Just use coco without perlite? I don't use peat, perlite or hydrotron. Coco is light and compresses into bricks. It also grows all around the world, so shipping doesn't have to be from a single area on the other side of the globe.
speedwell68
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So that is it then, do nothing about the environment? I like Formula 1 and Drag Racing too, should I give them up? IMHO it is about doing what you like to do with the least impact possible.
Buying a local product is helping, this is a proven fact. I understand I can get a better yield using coco, I have seen that proven time and time again. But for me it isn't all about yield, I can produce more than enough weed for my needs using a growbag and some tomato feed. Coco is way more plug n play than soil, much less work. But I don't like that, I like to fiddle with things and learn stuff.
About 20 years ago I used to grow in Coco. Coco Coir in I gallon pots with a capillary mat, it grew me fuck tons of weed which I sold illegally to friends and family. I haven't done that in 15 years. Now it is a hobby, something I do to stop my brain turning to mush.
TBH I might not bother with anything. We grow all manner of fruit and veg in containers and don't bother with Perlite there and have no problems with drainage and aeration
lusidghost
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I respect trying to be eco-friendly. I grew up in a ravaged region with orange creeks due to acid mine drainage. People just dump whatever into the woods and waterways. On the other hand my son's mom grew up on a hippie commune, and I'd rather not revert back to tribal living. To me it is a balance.
Use what works best, and don't be wasteful with it. I stopped using rockwool mostly because of environmental concerns. I'm using 1/2 gallon-ish pots with coco, and I only had to expand three bricks to fill around close to 30 pots. After harvest I use the coco around my yard. It's great to fill in holes that my dog digs.
speedwell68
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I really don't want to use coco. I really like using products that are made literally in the next town. The compost I am using is made from the garden waste collected in our recycling bins and local recycling centres, taken to a depot 15 miles away, processed and sold back to the community at cost. My manure comes from a Livery stables, just up the road. A 20KG sack of rotted manure costs me £1, 150L of compost costs me £15, no delivery needed I literally drive by the point of production on my daily commute. So for £16 I have enough medium for at least a couple of full runs. The same in Coco would cost me nearly £39 plus delivery, the nearest shop that sells it is 60 miles away. With Coco I would have to use nutrients from day one, with my mix I can go for weeks on plain water and then get by on some very basic feed I can get from literally anywhere.