AP: The super spreaders behind top COVID-19 conspiracy theories

[CatHedral]

IMO a pre-print is a better source of info than a news article. That said, we know that naturally acquired immunity from a previous infection lasts at least 250-days, meanwhile vaxxed folks apparently need a booster every 6 months.

You sure do pick the cherries. I do not accept your selection criteria.

 

[PJ Diaz]

You sure do pick the cherries. I do not accept your selection criteria.

The feeling is mutual my friend.

 

[CatHedral]

The feeling is mutual my friend.

That’s nice. You remain wrong.

 

[PJ Diaz]

That’s nice. You remain wrong.

Because your internet article says so? OK sure buddy.

 

[CatHedral]

Because your internet article says so? OK sure buddy.

 

[PJ Diaz]

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Sweet! My dad is an asshole. I'll eat popcorn and watch.

 

[Fogdog]

But since you asked so nicely,

COVID-19: Disease-induced (natural) immunity, vaccination or hybrid immunity?

If you’ve had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?

www.nebraskamed.com

It's been posted before, but some antivaxxers probably need to read this at least once before heading out to their cherry orchards.

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

New CDC Study: Vaccination Offers Higher Protection than Previous COVID-19 Infection

“If you have had COVID-19 before, please still get vaccinated,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. “This study shows you are twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated. Getting the vaccine is the best way to protect yourself and others around you, especially as the more contagious Delta variant spreads around the country.”

 

[mooray]

...we know that naturally acquired immunity from a previous infection lasts at least 250-days, meanwhile vaxxed folks apparently need a booster every 6 months.

I'm not sure I'd say "we know"...

Immunity To COVID-19 Could Last Longer Than You'd Think

New studies look at how the mRNA vaccines affect the cells in your body in the short run and the long run. The findings are a counterpoint to concerns about waning immunity.

www.npr.org

 

[hanimmal]

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-entertainment-business-social-media-ap-fact-check-737ba5005d897d31ff5185574c9bf69dA roundup of some of the most popular but completely untrue stories and visuals of the week. None of these are legit, even though they were shared widely on social media. The Associated Press checked them out. Here are the facts:

Vaccinated people do not carry more coronavirus than the unvaccinated

CLAIM: People who are vaccinated against COVID-19 carry a “heavier viral load” if infected with the disease than those who are unvaccinated.

THE FACTS: Scientists have found that vaccinated people who get so-called breakthrough infections can carry about the same amount of coronavirus as those who did not receive the shots, not more. Social media users are misrepresenting comments made by Dr. Leana Wen, former Baltimore health commissioner, to make the false claim.

One widely circulating post falsely states, “Dr. Leana Wen, one of the MSM’s biggest lap dogs, is confirming what has been said by us all along. The vaccinated carry a heavier viral load.” In the image, a syringe is used rather than the word “vaccinated.”

The post supports the false claim using a short clip from a 25-minute interview Wen did with the news program “Democracy Now!” In the segment, she discusses the delta variant and the new issues surrounding it. “We know that a person infected with the delta variant carries a thousand times the viral load than someone infected with the previous variant,” Wen said in the full clip. “What that means is the person can transmit a lot more virus.”

But the post leaves that information out, using only a portion of the video where Wen discusses how the vaccinated can also spread the disease.

“Those who are vaccinated, we now know based on the CDC, are now able with the delta variant, because they carry so much more virus, they could transmit it to their unvaccinated family members,” Wen said in the edited clip. “I, for example, even though I’m fully vaccinated, my children are not because they’re too young to be vaccinated. So I need to be careful for my children because of all the unvaccinated people around us.” Previously, vaccinated people who got infected were thought to have low levels of virus and to be unlikely to pass it to others. But, according to AP reporting, more recent data shows that is not the case with the delta variant. In July, after the delta variant began spreading more widely, the CDC highlighted a study that found that the vaccinated can carry as much of the coronavirus as the unvaccinated.

According to the CDC, the greatest risk of coronavirus transmission is among the unvaccinated, who are much more likely to get infected, and therefore transmit the virus.


Walmart is not requiring customers to be vaccinated

CLAIM: Walmart recently announced it will require customers in its stores to be vaccinated for COVID-19 starting Nov. 1.

THE FACTS: TikTok videos and a fake press release image circulated online this week with the false claim that Walmart was planning a vaccine requirement for its in-store customers. “So Walmart came out and said the other day that by November 1, anybody who is not vaccinated will not be allowed to shop in a Walmart supermarket,” a man told the camera in one widely shared TikTok video.

Social media users across platforms also shared a fake press release from “Walmart of Canada,” which featured the Walmart logo alongside the message “Proof of Vaccination Required.”

Walmart spokesperson Charles Crowson told the AP, “That claim is false.” Walmart Canada also confirmed the claims are false with a statement posted in multiple social media comments. “This information is not true,” the statement read. “Customers do not have to show proof of vaccination to shop at our stores. We continue to work with governments across the country and are following required restrictions.” A search of Walmart’s public social media accounts and news releases found the company has not announced any requirement for customers to get vaccinated.

Canadian health official’s remarks about COVID-19 misrepresented online

CLAIM: Alberta’s top doctor said that if you’re feeling unwell and you don’t have a COVID-19 test, you’re still counted as a positive case.

THE FACTS: Posts online are misrepresenting comments made by Alberta’s chief medical officer for health, Dr. Deena Hinshaw.

During a Sept. 23 news conference, Hinshaw was answering questions around how to manage outbreaks of COVID-19 in schools. Hinshaw was asked by a reporter to explain “why parents don’t have the right to know if there are COVID cases in their child’s school.” Hinshaw responded that because the current framework in schools does not require mandatory quarantine or close contact tracing for respiratory illnesses, disclosure of a student’s positive COVID-19 test would violate privacy rules. She said schools are using the same outbreak protocols for all cases of respiratory illnesses, regardless of whether there is a known COVID-19 diagnosis. “If individuals choose to not get tested for COVID but are home with an illness, they are now counted in the list as now being part of that outbreak. It is less dependent on needing a test to be a part of identifying where there is an issue,” she said in the clip being shared online. “We are working with education to determine if there are any adjustments that need to be made to this framework.”

Some social media users shared the brief clip without making it clear that she was referring to school protocols for tracking respiratory illness in general, not official COVID-19 case counts.

Posts online falsely claimed the clip showed Alberta would now count anyone who feels unwell as a positive COVID-19 case.

“That report is false,” Tom McMillan, assistant director of communications for Alberta Health, said in an email. “Dr. Hinshaw was simply referring to outbreak management protocols in school settings, where all respiratory viruses are treated similarly by the current protocols in place, which helps reduce the chance of onward spread.” McMillan said those staying home from school are not counted automatically as positive COVID-19 cases. “All cases reported in the province are those that are confirmed COVID-19 cases or those who’ve been tested and are awaiting results,” he said.

The posts online are a part of a broader conspiracy theory that claims that COVID-19 case numbers are being inflated around the globe, which experts have repeatedly debunked.

 

[PJ Diaz]

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-entertainment-business-social-media-ap-fact-check-737ba5005d897d31ff5185574c9bf69dView attachment 5000209A roundup of some of the most popular but completely untrue stories and visuals of the week. None of these are legit, even though they were shared widely on social media. The Associated Press checked them out. Here are the facts:

That's cool, but here's something cool that actually did happen this week, and it's more positive news for @mooray !..

Kentucky's COVID-19 positivity rate drops into single digits

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Kentucky’s COVID-19 test positivity rate dropped into single digits for the first time in nearly two months Friday, but the virus continues to exact a heavy toll on the state.

apnews.com

 

[PJ Diaz]

But of course @mooray I have to balance that with what you like to call negative news..

Broadway's 'Aladdin' goes dark for days as it battles virus

The Broadway hit “Aladdin” is trying to keep COVID-19 genie contained. Disney Theatrical Productions said it will cancel Friday’s performance and all shows until Oct. 12 after “additional breakthrough COVID-19 cases were detected.”

apnews.com

It seems that the vaccine isn't working well enough to keep Broadway from shutting down. Sucks for my IA brothers and sisters working out there.

 

[hanimmal]

But of course @mooray I have to balance that with what you like to call negative news..

Broadway's 'Aladdin' goes dark for days as it battles virus

The Broadway hit “Aladdin” is trying to keep COVID-19 genie contained. Disney Theatrical Productions said it will cancel Friday’s performance and all shows until Oct. 12 after “additional breakthrough COVID-19 cases were detected.”

apnews.com

It seems that the vaccine isn't working well enough to keep Broadway from shutting down. Sucks for my IA brothers and sisters working out there.

How many of those folks ended up in the ICU?

That's cool, but here's something cool that actually did happen this week, and it's more positive news for @mooray !..

Kentucky's COVID-19 positivity rate drops into single digits

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Kentucky’s COVID-19 test positivity rate dropped into single digits for the first time in nearly two months Friday, but the virus continues to exact a heavy toll on the state.

apnews.com

I don't get it are you saying that the pandemic is over?

It looks like KY is sstill increasing it's vaccinated after slowing a couple months ago, so I guess it would make sense that it would be decreasing to the lowest point in a whole 2 months after people got stupid and listened to the death cult trolls.




Hopefully the deaths from this preventable virus (thanks to the extremely safe and effective vaccine) start to drop soon too.

 

[mooray]

I'm willing to accept the reality that the science is still young on all of this, and we really won't "know" likely for decades, however the current information is pretty heavily weighted on the side of immunity from an infection being more robust than from vaccination. I mean that shouldn't really be too surprising, since that's how it works with pretty much every other virus, including measles:

Long-term immunogenicity after measles vaccine vs. wild infection: an Italian retrospective cohort study - PubMed

The persistence of specific IgG after measles infection and after measles vaccination has not been sufficiently investigated. Current evidence suggests that immunity after the disease is life-long, whereas the response after two doses of measles-containing vaccine declines within 10-15 years...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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Yeahhhh, but what's obvious to you is very selective. The goal is to not die, or be hospitalized, or suffer some other long lasting effect. The goal is not some frat-boi contest of, "whichever lasts longest is most bestest in the wurld!!!". What are the odds of dying, or being hospitalized, or suffering a long lasting effect from measles? And what are the same numbers for the measles vaccine?

 

[PJ Diaz]

How many of those folks ended up in the ICU?

I don't get it are you saying that the pandemic is over?

It looks like KY is sstill increasing it's vaccinated after slowing a couple months ago, so I guess it would make sense that it would be decreasing to the lowest point in a whole 2 months after people got stupid and listened to the death cult trolls.

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I don't know how many ended up in the ICU. Sounds like you have some homework to do.

I didn't say the pandemic was over. I said that it's currently on a decline. That's good news.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Yeahhhh, but what's obvious to you is very selective. The goal is to not die, or be hospitalized, or suffer some other long lasting effect. The goal is not some frat-boi contest of, "whichever lasts longest is most bestest in the wurld!!!". What are the odds of dying, or being hospitalized, or suffering a long lasting effect from measles? And what are the same numbers for the measles vaccine?

I'm not sure. Please let me know when you've finished the research on that and have something to present to the group.

 

[hanimmal]

I don't know how many ended up in the ICU. Sounds like you have some homework to do.

Nah, you are the one pushing the narrative, I'm sure your handlers will tell you what to say/think about it eventually.

I didn't say the pandemic was over. I said that it's currently on a decline. That's good news.

Shame deaths are not dropping yet. Hopefully soon they will too.

I'm not sure. Please let me know when you've finished the research on that and have something to present to the group.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/trumps-war-on-factual-news-journalism.1020994/post-15734531

 

[mooray]

I'm not sure. Please let me know when you've finished the research on that and have something to present to the group.

Hahaha, you had to scrub studies from around the globe to find one from Italy to support your point, but refuse look into your own example any further because it conflicts with your other thoughts. A real man of science! "HURR DURR I DONT SEE POSITIVE/NEGATIVE INFORMATION CUZ IM A ROBOT BEEP BOOP". Lol.

 

[PJ Diaz]

@hanimmal your obsession with Trump and Putin is unhealthy. You have allowed them to own your consciousness.

@mooray it was a quick google search, I'm sure there are plenty more. I gave you both positive news, negative news, and new information in this thread today, so I will exit for now.

"Be seeing you.."

 

[mooray]

Well I'm not sure burning rubber is the best response when conflict is pointed out, but it's a free cuntry.

 

[hanimmal]

@hanimmal your obsession with Trump and Putin is unhealthy. You have allowed them to own your consciousness.

@mooray it was a quick google search, I'm sure there are plenty more. I gave you both positive news, negative news, and new information in this thread today, so I will exit for now.

"Be seeing you.."

Who said anything about Trump/Putin?

You projecting?

@mooray it was a quick google search, I'm sure there are plenty more. I gave you both positive news, negative news, and new information in this thread today, so I will exit for now.

Dont forget trying to spread death cult troll nonsense with bullshit insinuations too.

"Be seeing you.."

Be best.