PACLO ALERT

VincenzioVonHook

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So. Have a little plant here in a 50x50x100. Pre flowered about a week ago and me mate gave me a "flower boost" that was supposed to contain triacontanol and some form of "sugars and enzymes". He said it was basically the same as cannaboost lol. Well, that's apparently what the dude at the hydro shop said lol.

So I apply it around six days ago, and within a few days, it has Hella clawed leaves, and it showing nitrogen toxicity. First time using something I didn't know, and look what happens. I thought it was nitrogen toxicity until this happened.....

So i go over his place, and notice fucking cyco a+b PGRs sitting beside his tent. I'm like "I suppose that's what you gave me last week?" And he was like, "yea it's good shit..real hard buds.. you only have to apply it once or twice"

He had no idea what paclobutrazol or PGRs are and was keen to use it on his next run of four plants lol. Was excited to see how it went on my plant, and it has totally fucked it.

Check this out within a few days.
Before
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Less than a week later.
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Moral of the story, don't be a stupid cunt like me and add shit you haven't got a guaranteed analysis of. I'd used cannaboost before with good (well, I don't even know becuase I had no comparison, in other words it didn't do any harm) and thought it wouldn't be an issue.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Soooo... you lost a joint worth?
Probs half. No loss here lol. I've still got like an lb from the last lot lol. Was just interested to see if I could grow a plant in a small tent. Last were like 5ft tall.

I somehow went the complete opposite. From 5ft to like half a foot lol.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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It was more of a therapeutic grow lol. Zen or some gay shit like that.

Kinda funny tho. Last lot outgrew a 180cm tent, this one is like 20cm....I like to go to either extreme.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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This
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It literally say it on the bottle. The just didn't know what it was haha. He thought that meant it had triacontanol In it, and they hydro guy said it was similar to boost haha.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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People using PGRs and selling weed are assholes.

Someone had to say it.
It's crazy hydro shops are pushing this onto people that don't know anything.....and it's crazy I didnt even think to check before using a random unmarked bottle of fluid someone gave me lol.

I just didn't think local shops sold products with paclo.

We have a serious issue with these in Aus. I have another mate that was sold U-turn by nulife a few months ago as well, and he lost two good plants. It was sold to him as a normal flower boost, yet it is far from it.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Keep the chemical PGR's for the ornamentals, Triancontanol is an natural isolated alcohol molecule found in beeswax and also kelp and is the safest PGR to use.
I don't use PGRs. If you read my original post, someone gave me a bottle of what was supposed to be an alternative to cannaboost. The plant is already binned, and me mate has returned the cyco for a refund. I've been using kelp meal and alfalfa meal myself for the last few runs.

I'm just mind blown that people at local shops are pushing this without explaining to customers what it is. Dangerous practice.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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There was a solid year or two where the only stuff we could get was shitty pgr weed. I basically stopped smoking.

The shit thing about this is that here in Aus, you can walk in to any gardening shop or hydro shop and buy paclo products.

It's that bad that shops push them as standard flower boosters and push the whole "helps create dense buds" line.
 

xtsho

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Who uses a product that has "Poison" in big letters on the front of the bottle for cannabis? Crazy shit you have going on down there. They test for that crap here. Although I don't know how reliable the testing is since many of the labs have close ties to growers. I don't smoke dispensary weed anyway and don't use PGR's on my weed unless they are naturally occurring from organic amendments like alfalfa, shellfish meal, kelp, etc...

Stop using it.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Who uses a product that has "Poison" in big letters on the front of the bottle for cannabis? Crazy shit you have going on down there. They test for that crap here. Although I don't know how reliable the testing is since many of the labs have close ties to growers. I don't smoke dispensary weed anyway and don't use PGR's on my weed unless they are naturally occurring from organic amendments like alfalfa, shellfish meal, kelp, etc...

Stop using it.
Yet again if you read my post, it was in an unmarked bottle claimed to be an alternative for cannaboost. I don't use it and it wasnt me that purchased it in the first place. That's why the plant has been exposed and binned lol.

Brush up on your comprehension. I clearly stated that I use kelp and alfalfa meal.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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there's nothing wrong with using the RIGHT pgrs....and EVERYTHING WRONG with using the wrong ones...
Tria, Brassinolide, even gibberelic acid won't hurt you or your plants if you use them properly (that being said, i experimented, and don't find the results worth the effort to use them...)
paclobutrazol products are supposed to CLEARLY state that they are poisonous and only intended for use on ornamentals....products like miraculan are shit, too

as a side note, gibberellic acid will produce MONSTROUS pumpkins...
 
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xtsho

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Yet again if you read my post, it was in an unmarked bottle claimed to be an alternative for cannaboost. I don't use it and it wasnt me that purchased it in the first place. That's why the plant has been exposed and binned lol.

Brush up on your comprehension. I clearly stated that I use kelp and alfalfa meal.
You don't use it but you make a post about how using it screwed up your plant.

My comprehension is just fine.

"So I apply it around six days ago, and within a few days, it has Hella clawed leaves, and it showing nitrogen toxicity. First time using something I didn't know, and look what happens. I thought it was nitrogen toxicity until this happened....."

I don't understand why you responded to the post I made the way you did and insult my intelligence. I'm not the one dumping PGR's on my cannabis because of using unknown substances I got from some buddy. It's more intelligent to know what you're using than not. I'm not the one frying my plants. Let that sink in before you question others comprehension.

So. Have a little plant here in a 50x50x100. Pre flowered about a week ago and me mate gave me a "flower boost" that was supposed to contain triacontanol and some form of "sugars and enzymes". He said it was basically the same as cannaboost lol. Well, that's apparently what the dude at the hydro shop said lol.

So I apply it around six days ago, and within a few days, it has Hella clawed leaves, and it showing nitrogen toxicity. First time using something I didn't know, and look what happens. I thought it was nitrogen toxicity until this happened.....

So i go over his place, and notice fucking cyco a+b PGRs sitting beside his tent. I'm like "I suppose that's what you gave me last week?" And he was like, "yea it's good shit..real hard buds.. you only have to apply it once or twice"

He had no idea what paclobutrazol or PGRs are and was keen to use it on his next run of four plants lol. Was excited to see how it went on my plant, and it has totally fucked it.

Check this out within a few days.
Before
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Less than a week later.
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So I apply it around six days ago, and within a few days, it has Hella clawed leaves, and it showing nitrogen toxicity. First time using something I didn't know, and look what happens. I thought it was nitrogen toxicity until this happened..... I'd used cannaboost before with good (well, I don't even know becuase I had no comparison, in other words it didn't do any harm) and thought it wouldn't be an issue.
 

VincenzioVonHook

Well-Known Member
there's nothing wrong with using the RIGHT pgrs....and EVERYTHING WRONG with using the wrong ones...
Tria, Brassinolide, even gibberelic acid won't hurt you or your plants if you use them properly (that being said, i experimented, and don't find the results worth the effort to use them...)
paclobutrazol products are supposed to CLEARLY state that they are poisonous and only intended for use on ornamentals....products like miraculan are shit, too

as a side note, gibberellic acid will produce MONSTROUS pumpkins...
Yep, it did have that all over the bottle, I just didn't have a bottle lol.

At least me mate got a $150 refund...Ive popped two more seeds, and the one outside is doing okay, so no biggie for now.

It's just insane how people disregard poison notices and shit if a guy at the hydro shop said it's bomb lol.

As soon as I walked in and saw the cyco I was like.....fuck...I know what that is.

I'm a firm believer of kelp meal. These two were grown with nothing bar teas from kelp, alfalfa and soybean.
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VincenzioVonHook

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You don't use it but you make a post about how using it screwed up your plant.

My comprehension is just fine.

"So I apply it around six days ago, and within a few days, it has Hella clawed leaves, and it showing nitrogen toxicity. First time using something I didn't know, and look what happens. I thought it was nitrogen toxicity until this happened....."

I don't understand why you responded to the post I made the way you did and insult my intelligence. I'm not the one dumping PGR's on my cannabis because of using unknown substances I got from some buddy. It's more intelligent to know what you're using than not. I'm not the one frying my plants. Let that sink in before you question others comprehension.
How was I supposed to know in an unmarked bottle professor? One mistaken application doesn't suddenly mean I've used this product on the previous 9 plants lol.

Your not reading the next posts obviously...i clearly made this post so others don't do the same.....it's like you missed the point of the post.

The point was literally to not do what I did, and not use unmarked bottles, but you couldn't figure that out yourself and just said the same thing as I did.

You jumped.straight from one mistaken application to "dumping PGRs over your plants".
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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Yep, it did have that all over the bottle, I just didn't have a bottle lol.

At least me mate got a $150 refund...Ive popped two more seeds, and the one outside is doing okay, so no biggie for now.

It's just insane how people disregard poison notices and shit if a guy at the hydro shop said it's bomb lol.

As soon as I walked in and saw the cyco I was like.....fuck...I know what that is.

I'm a firm believer of kelp meal. These two were grown with nothing bar teas from kelp, alfalfa and soybean.
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alfalfa meal has a high concentration of triacontanol, it's good shit.
what kind of palm is that? i like it
 
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