Outdoors in SE Virginia

[FirstCavApache64]

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I can't believe I just now figured out how your plants all look like planes. You did that on purpose you Air Force guy you. Man how did that take me so long. Right there in front of me the whole time too.

 

[Retired engineer]

Glad you were able to protect your plants, we had a pretty hard rain here last nite and mine weather it well.

I put some yellow sticky traps around the perimeter of my pots and snagged a few intruders. The Green Cleaner seems to have knocked back the aphids and mites...I’ll do another application in a couple days just to be sure.

I think they look like alien space ships when I use a flash...here they are all lined up in attack formation...

 

[FirstCavApache64]

They look cool as hell at night. The one looks like an SR71 Blackbird with the swept wings I swear. Maybe it's just because it's my favorite plane, who knows. I looked over the Spinosad product it makes 32 spray bottles for 23 bucks which works out to way less than what I was using so I'm over the small bottle sticker shock. Just need to be sure it doesn't hurt trichomes before I go spraying it on my buds.

 

[curious2garden]

They look cool as hell at night. The one looks like an SR71 Blackbird with the swept wings I swear. Maybe it's just because it's my favorite plane, who knows. I looked over the Spinosad product it makes 32 spray bottles for 23 bucks which works out to way less than what I was using so I'm over the small bottle sticker shock. Just need to be sure it doesn't hurt trichomes before I go spraying it on my buds.

@raratt

 

[Retired engineer]

This is my grow at my GFs house, two Jack Herer and two Glue Gelato. All popped and planted at the same time as my horizontal grow at my home. They are in the corner of a garden and get direct sun from around 0900 to 1300 as it passes directly overhead. I’ve kinda neglected these, so have them bent kinda haphazardly...

the milk crates were bought at Lowe’s, they are collapsible. They had about 20 of them on the shelf, in a couple days they were gone.

 

[FirstCavApache64]

The autos look good man, I like the guerilla grow look of the plants. She's an angel for letting you have the spot too. We had tornado warnings with radar indicated tornado's according to the weather guy going off from 11 PM until about 2 AM. They love to hype that crap on small town news. The town where my wife works got 2 inches of rain in less than an hour and that's less than 12 miles away. We were so lucky, one of the really bad storms went just West and one went just East of us by just barely miles. I saw that you are under the tornado watch we were last night but it was lifted for us tonight. It's only a county or two away so I'm expecting a few bad storms in the area again but the next four days after this are supposed to be glorious, pure sun and lower humidity. Hopefully you don't get any of the crap they saw around here last night but you might want to weigh that table you keep your plants under down with some cinder blocks to prevent up lift just in case. I don't know what you have on it. I just remember living in Texas and a tornado taking my trashcan 4 miles away. You knew to paint you're name and phone number on them for just such a reason.

 

[Retired engineer]

We have a tornado warning until 1900- lots of rain at my GF house, not a drop at mine yet (25 MK away). This storm has some pretty defined bands so it’ll be hit or miss for a while...

I lost a big chunk of this tree in my front yard in Feb this year. It was a Bradford Pear, notorious for spitting in the crotch. Got it to the street that day and the county picked it up a few days later. I then spent 3 weeks cutting away roots so I could get a brick edging back in place. Cutting wet roots in the mud below grade wasn’t fun...

I’m getting concerned about bud rot on my plants-some discoloration on just a couple buds. I’ll snap a photo tomorrow for a second opinion.

I think I’m gonna get twice the yield from the four plants I have trained horizontally than I’ll get out of the ones I let go wild at the GFs house. Not a truly fair comparison since mine get a few more hours of sun a day, and ive been nurturing them more frequently. But, low is the way to go

 

[FirstCavApache64]

I'd like to get a scientific opinion on it just to know for sure as my gut says outdoors it wouldn't matter as the sun is so far away that a couple of feet just isn't making a difference. Where indoors you want to have that perfect even canopy so they are even distance to the light since ppfd falls off so quickly from the light source, like in inches as opposed to hundreds of millions of miles or whatever the sun is away from us. Earth science was back in the 80s for me. I think as long as you keep the bud sites open and they can get even light you are going to get about the same yield vertically or doing a LST tie down type grow, but since this is my first time outdoors I just don't know. I hope you do a side by side next year so we can see a kind of direct comparison but it would have to be clones to keep it close and I know you need to do autos. Next year you could pull the batteries if you wanted to try something different. You would open up your options a whole lot, and I could hook you up with some seeds or possibly clones if you did photos.

 

[FirstCavApache64]

Your bud rot comment got me thinking and I've been doing research on it. I have a ton of moths in my area since it's so heavily wooded and when I sprayed the girls down with the spinosad tonight for the first time I had four tiny white moths fly out of my Blue Dream. I had already picked a caterpillar off one of the leaves and cut a leaf off that had a clutch of eggs on it so now I know I really have to be doing daily inspections for these little worms and moths eggs. I think I am going to get some BT which seems to be highly recommended for these little bastards as well in a week or so. That way I can switch off. I only had to deal with bud rot a few times and that was from buds in jars with too high of humidity, but post some pics so we can see. Hopefully its something that isn't systemic and can just be snipped out or cleaned maybe.

 

[Retired engineer]

Cools temps and constant sun for the next couple days, will be wicked weed weather!

I decided I don’t have bud rot, just some smaller sugar leaves that got dried out and then wilted, and haven’t seen any evidence of bugs, so all is well. Misting of Green Cleaner tonite just to make sure.

I’ll do a more thorough comparison of horizontal vs vertical plants next year - the GF and I moved a fence yesterday so her plants are getting much more sun, and that’ll even out the playing field for next year, Bit, she digs the whole horizontal bonsai thing, so I might just tell her to go for it at her house.

louped some tricromes today, most are cloudy and some amber showing up so I’m close to harvest...i have a decent stash from previous efforts so not in any huge rush to chop them...I can wait. I need to get the drying area set up too, so got some other stuff to do first.

im gonna wash them down at harvest as you recommend...and let the dry/cure process take its time. I have a tendency to rush that...

hope you get some back to back days of cooler temps and full sun to finish out your crop...

 

[FirstCavApache64]

We are getting four days of low 80's and pure sun so I got out at the crack of dawn literally. I mixed in the Dr. Earth Bloom 3-9-4 at slightly less than the recommended amount since I was adding another two or three inches of Ocean Forrest that had a bunch of EWC and fresh nutes loaded up in it.



Watered it in heavy to the plants that had been under the lean to since they were dry and just enough to soak it in to the Blue Dream since she was pretty well watered from riding out the storm. I did a pretty heavy inspection today after I hosed them down with the spinosad the other night and don't see any eggs, poop or signs of critters so I am just going to keep up the inspections and get this stuff called BT since I found out that spinosad kills bees and I have a ton of them as pollinators in my garden. I might still use it in rotation if the BT fails to work but the bee killing thing is a deal breaker for me. I should have checked first but I thought organic would be safe and I was rushing since I didn't have my power chair. Live and learn. I'm stoked you don't have any bud rot, that shit's a pain to deal with. I lost a whole mason jar to it of Duckweb IBL that really smelled nice like roses and hybiscus. Heart breaking, but I burp my jars a hell of a lot more now and dry a little bit more before they go in just to be sure. The strain you're growing is a pretty heavy indica on it's own isn't it? Just be sure you don't let it get too amber or you'll be locked into the couch so deep you won't ever want to get off, lol.

 

[Retired engineer]

glad we are both keeping the critters at bay...I’m chasing rabbits and moles/voles outta my yard constantly. I hit them with Green Cleaner last nite, and misted that off this morning. I’m close to chop on a couple add have the drying room partially assembled. Burning some citronella candles in there now and will hit with a fogger later today.

Here is a Blue Mystic I’m working on...daylight photos were at 0732 this AM.

 

[Retired engineer]

 

[FirstCavApache64]

They are looking so nice. After hauling around my plants this year I will never have plants outdoors again without wheels or having them in the ground. Having small autos in pots is a great idea and I might do an auto run next year really early before the regular season using a small greenhouse and a space heater at night on the really bad nights. Fast Buds Auto seeds has a 60 day auto I might try. I'd be getting way better sun with less leaves on the trees. DC SEEDS has Mephisto in stock, a small drop. Plus those seeds I told you about that I ordered. I think anything with hubba bubba smelloscope in it has been a winner for me. The branching in it lends itself to training so well and they grow to be huge for autos. I also really like bubba kush for the hash taste it's always been one of my old school favorites.

 

[Retired engineer]

I swear by the milk crates - so damn easy to move around, and having them up in the air improves circulation. Since I’m retired, I can position them in the best spot all day long...the shadows are getting longer on the patio so some creative arrangement is called for, but I can stick them out in the lawn too.

they are screened completely from the neighbor, and really blend in with all the other stuff out there...

 

[Retired engineer]

This Blue Mystic is getting really lanky, and the entire length of each upward growing branch are covered in flower sites. They’ll all run together over time I think, and it’ll be a single cola eventually...

 

[Bike247]

Wow.

 

[FirstCavApache64]

What day is she on? That has some nice size for an auto, I'm excited to see the buds stack and swell too.

 

[Retired engineer]

She was planted 17 jul and went into flower in 3 weeks, so in week 5 of flower. Breeder claims an 8-9 week flower period so I have a month to go. i Will bring it indoors to finish when night time temps start dropping.

it is the prettiest plant in my garden, don’t tell The Audrey Two I said that...

 

[Retired engineer]

A formation of alien space craft.