Veg only LED suggestions to replace 250w 6k MH?

[.Smoke]

I'm looking for a new veg light. 4 plants max in 3.5gal buckets with 4-6 weeks in a 4'x4' but only use about 2.5'x2.5'.

I really like the 6k spectrum for veg over 4200k. I've had better personal experience with it.
I was thinking something in the 100-150w range? This would be my first LED so I'm searching for suggestions. Not wanting to DIY something this small.

What would you guys recommend?

 

[EhCndGrower]

Here’s one from Budget LED that will do both spectrums with their Infinity Board line. Have a switch to change between blue or far/deep red spectrum And UV on/off. Has a Veg footprint listed at 4x4 and I think it’s still 10% off purchase with 420mag. Everything is built and shipped out of Michigan

 

[.Smoke]

Here’s one from Budget LED that will do both spectrums with their Infinity Board line. Have a switch to change between blue or far/deep red spectrum And UV on/off. Has a Veg footprint listed at 4x4 and I think it’s still 10% off purchase with 420mag. Everything is built and shipped out of Michigan

That's a nice light, but too pricey for me for my first go @ Led for a small veg.

I managed to find this one on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DKYV518/ref=dp_iou_view_product_mobile?ie=UTF8&psc=1

150w, 756 diodes (says Samsung 301H equivalent) with built-in Wifi and controller app on sale for $100.
Seemed too good to pass up. Will be here Saturday.
Anyone have any experience with one of these?

 

[budolskie]

That's a nice light, but too pricey for me for my first go @ Led for a small veg.

I managed to find this one on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DKYV518/ref=dp_iou_view_product_mobile?ie=UTF8&psc=1

150w, 756 diodes (says Samsung 301H equivalent) with built-in Wifi and controller app on sale for $100.
Seemed too good to pass up. Will be here Saturday.
Anyone have any experience with one of these?

I have Just purchased one of these recently for my 80x80cm for starting pips and veg for around 5 weeks before they go in my flower tent

 

[jcdws602]

240 watt lm301h kingbrite 3500k with 660nm epistar. Good for entire grow or if you just want for veg then 4000k. Cost 118 plus 60 shipping to the US. Kingbrite also has a 120 watt for about 85 plus 50 shipping.

 

[GBAUTO]

HLG 100 V2

HLG 100 V2 is ideal for a vegging or flowering in compact spaces. Equivalent to 220W T5 or 300W CFL output or 250W metal halide.

horticulturelightinggroup.com

This would work really well.
I run a V1QB(4000k) in my 3x2 veg/mother tent.
I typically run it at about 75 watts and the plants love it.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

I was dead set that you need to veg with 6500-5000k for years until I recently tried vegging with 4000k. I don’t think you’ll lose out on much going with what’s being mass produced right now(3000,3500,4000k boards).

 

[Horselover fat]

That's a nice light, but too pricey for me for my first go @ Led for a small veg.

I managed to find this one on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DKYV518/ref=dp_iou_view_product_mobile?ie=UTF8&psc=1

150w, 756 diodes (says Samsung 301H equivalent) with built-in Wifi and controller app on sale for $100.
Seemed too good to pass up. Will be here Saturday.
Anyone have any experience with one of these?

If the specs are trustworthy that seems like a good light and excellent value

 

[jcdws602]

It looks good but what diodes does it really have?? " Groplanner LED grow light adopt the top grade LEDs equal to Sumsung 301H SM grade flux bin." I would be wary without solid evidence backing all their claims. Me personally would go with anything with actual samsung diodes that is with in my budget.

 

[Horselover fat]

It looks good but what diodes does it really have?? " Groplanner LED grow light adopt the top grade LEDs equal to Sumsung 301H SM grade flux bin." I would be wary without solid evidence backing all their claims. Me personally would go with anything with actual samsung diodes that is with in my budget.

Doesn't really matter which leds are in it, as long as the specs and measurements are accurate (who knows if they are...)

 

[jcdws602]

Doesn't really matter which leds are in it, as long as the specs and measurements are accurate (who knows if they are...)

I'm not sure how it doesnt matter? The quality of your diodes will determine reliability and other factors involved in growing healthy desirable plants. Im not sure why you would want to pay almost the same price for unknown diodes when you could buy some of the best in the market at almost the same price.

 

[Herb & Suds]

You are lowering your wattage
That is the only problem I see if you want better veg results up the wattage not lower

 

[LEDGROWSHOP.CO.UK]

Some MH bulbs can be an inefficient as 0.7-0.9 umol per watt so with LED pushing 2.5umol + you could run a third upto a quarter of the watts to achieve the same amount light.

 

[Horselover fat]

I'm not sure how it doesnt matter? The quality of your diodes will determine reliability and other factors involved in growing healthy desirable plants. Im not sure why you would want to pay almost the same price for unknown diodes when you could buy some of the best in the market at almost the same price.

How bad can the diodes be if they achieve the results on the page? I have no idea if they are as they say or not, but it would be rather good performance. It's definitely not impossible to make a great fixture using other leds beside samsung lm301. It's just an efficient diode, but use more of a little less efficient diode and you can match it. It's not magic. The unit looks very well made for the price imo.

 

[jcdws602]

Like you said yourself you don't know.....the manufacturer is not verified for its reliability or authenticity so why pay for inferior unknown quality when you can have the real deal for about the same price. There's is nothing to debate here. Spend you're money where you want but is it a good idea recommending some unknown product to someone who is looking for a good value.

 

[Herb & Suds]

How bad can the diodes be if they achieve the results on the page? I have no idea if they are as they say or not, but it would be rather good performance. It's definitely not impossible to make a great fixture using other leds beside samsung lm301. It's just an efficient diode, but use more of a little less efficient diode and you can match it. It's not magic. The unit looks very well made for the price imo.

Walk to the edge of a frozen lake
Do you want "that looks safe" or "that is safe"?

 

[Horselover fat]

Like you said yourself you don't know.....the manufacturer is not verified for its reliability or authenticity so why pay for inferior unknown quality when you can have the real deal for about the same price. There's is nothing to debate here. Spend you're money where you want but is it a good idea recommending some unknown product to someone who is looking for a good value.

Lemme quote myself:

Doesn't really matter which leds are in it, as long as the specs and measurements are accurate (who knows if they are...)

And I was responding to

It looks good but what diodes does it really have?? " Groplanner LED grow light adopt the top grade LEDs equal to Sumsung 301H SM grade flux bin." I would be wary without solid evidence backing all their claims. Me personally would go with anything with actual samsung diodes that is with in my budget.

Yeah, we don't known if all they wrote is a lie, but in general there's literally no reason to only use samsung lm301... Other than marketting.

 

[jcdws602]

Efficiency and reliability. It is well documented. It is not just marketing.

 

[Horselover fat]

Efficiency and reliability. It is well documented. It is not just marketing.

Let me quote myself again:

How bad can the diodes be if they achieve the results on the page? I have no idea if they are as they say or not, but it would be rather good performance. It's definitely not impossible to make a great fixture using other leds beside samsung lm301. It's just an efficient diode, but use more of a little less efficient diode and you can match it. It's not magic. The unit looks very well made for the price imo.

I'm using a diy led made with lm301b, but it's not the only good diode out there.

 

[Brettman]

@Horselover fat Five years from now there will be a some new diode pushing 3.5 and all these guys will be knocking LM301B as if they can’t grow good pot lol.