Crazy Mexican girl accuses black teen on stealing her phone

[UncleBuck]

It’s not print media and my wife was the first to come across it, so not the best source for sure. Does that matter? I read the majority of my news from Apple iPhone, and AP app for American news. Local paper for local stuff. I don’t watch news on TV anymore for the most part. Is that your problem? Does my argument that media are doing dangerous shit not valid if it’s a news source that doesn’t meet your approval? I’m talking about social media here, net, all kinds of sources, some good, some bad. But it only blew up because of the power of celebrity and the mayor and people talking about it.

 

[hanimmal]

It’s not print media and my wife was the first to come across it, so not the best source for sure. Does that matter?

Big time. Why is that story being pushed to your wife. Does she take a different stance than you do? How did your kids think of the story. Where did they read about it/see it first? Was it a website like this, a chat room/video game, youtube etc.

The above are rhetorical questions that I would love to know. But I understand that unless you are interested in how your family is being attacked with propaganda it would be a pain in the butt most likely and am not expecting you to jump through those hoops for something that may not be immediately intuitive patterns (until you do it across several stories that you and your family discuss over time while evaluating how it made it to being talked about in real life).

'This is not the best source' is key to understanding the wider propaganda attack I find.

I read the majority of my news from Apple iPhone, and AP app for American news. Local paper for local stuff. I don’t watch news on TV anymore for the most part. Is that your problem?

Nope that all seems perfectly legit. Have you seen this story anywhere else other than your wife's link? If so where. I do agree this story has click baited itself into the online spam level exposure, but I have yet to see this in the news on anything other than her phone call, and even then I am pretty sure they didn't use her name.

Does my argument that media are doing dangerous shit not valid if it’s a news source that doesn’t meet your approval?

Pretty much. You are lumping in actual news companies with 'media' and that is dangerous. Anyone can say anything they want online. Pretending like any assholes opinion matters or is equally valid is something that I will push back on as often as possible.

I’m talking about social media here, net, all kinds of sources, some good, some bad. But it only blew up because of the power of celebrity and the mayor and people talking about it.

Naive.

Clickbait titles like this and militarized trolls and propaganda 'media' spreading it to anyone and everyone possible (like your wife) increased the visibility online.

 

[Fogdog]

Are Carp Good To Eat?

In short, Yes, Carp are good to eat. But, you may have to prepare it properly if you don’t like fishy flavor. Carp are a staple part of diets all across the world. Overall, It’s a great food fish and can be prepared in many different ways.

If you are a U.S. reader, the idea of carp probably puts you a little on edge. These fish have been vilified for years, sometimes for good reason.

But don’t let that turn you completely off. The best control method for carp may be an abundant fishing market.

Carp are native to Asia and some parts of Europe but have been introduced and even naturalized across most of the globe. They are prolific breeders that are hardy and capable of living in a wide variety of ecosystems. This is why they have become such a problem in the U.S.

Unfortunately, to many in the U.S. Carp are seen to have very little sporting value and even less food value. This is strange considering the view of carp with the rest of the world.

In Asia, carp is a primer food fish while in Europe, the sporting value of carp far surpasses that of any other fish. There are a number of European based dishes that are centered on the Carp and more publications appear every year dedicated to the species.

With a little more attention, I believe that the U.S. could direct more of a focus on carp and this starts with the proper preparation of carp as food.

Carp is an oily fish which can have a great effect on its taste but despite rumor, that isn’t where the supposed ‘muddy’ taste comes from.

The muddy taste is a direct result of a stress reaction in the fish that can be experienced with many of the more sedate fish species.

In truth, that oily muscle makes for a great fish for a fish fry. Done correctly, carp meat will come out moist, flaky, and with a very subtle flavor. A flavor that doesn’t have any hint of a ‘muddy’ or ‘fishy’ taste.

There is one secret to getting a carp to taste as it should. ALWAYS put a carp straight on ice or in a mix of ice and water as fast as possible after a catch.

There is more, but I'm busy right now. To be continued.

Are Carp Good To Eat? - Reel Game

In short, Yes, Carp are good to eat. But, you may have to prepare it properly if you don't like fishy flavor. Carp are a staple part of diets all across the world. Overall, It’s a great food fish and can be prepared in many different ways. If you are a…

reelgame.com

 

[DaFreak]

So how did you hear the story hanimal?

 

[Fogdog]

Preparing Carp
Carp are the most popular food fish worldwide and were introduced across the globe because people enjoyed eating them. Proper preparation is universal in most countries and was spread alongside the carp.

Before you do anything else, wash the carp clean of any slime.

While you can descale a carp, it is a rough process. So, the best starting point is to skin them.

The carp’s scales and skin are very tough. So, to do this, use the point of the knife to get under the scales near the top of the tail. From there follow the backbone from the tail to the skull to partially free the skin.

Then, you will want to make a cut along the belly to free the skin and slowly use a pair of pliers starting at the spine near the tail. Use your knife to cut free any meat that adheres to the skin. This is faster than scaling but can be a bit tough to do. The end result is well worth the effort.

To make the fillets, go along the backbone to the belly and run your knife along the ribs. Separate it at the head and tail as with any other fish.

With a carp, you will be able to easily feel the ribs through the knife as they are very thick and strong.

You do want to try to keep all the back meat of the carp with the fillet. This is the prized portion so use a thin knife and run it as close to the backbone as you can.

With a little practice, this is not a hard task and you will greatly improve the carps edibility.

With the fillets, you will notice the bloodline, this is usually removed before cooking. Below this is a small area which will have Y bones like in a trout or salmon.

Attempting to remove these will limit your meat. But, many think it’s worth it to not deal with bones.

Though you can soak the fillets in salt water as most people do with other fish, you are better off just putting them back on ice.

There is little benefit to soaking a carp. It will not change the flavor. You will want to cook them fairly quickly after filleting for the best taste anyway.

 

[hanimmal]

So how did you hear the story hanimal?

Youtube feed was were I first saw it, click farmed I would guess to increase it's exposure. I didn't click on it and didn't think about it again until it was posted in here, and then your thread on it.

 

[injinji]

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Are Carp Good To Eat?

In short, Yes, Carp are good to eat. But, you may have to prepare it properly if you don’t like fishy flavor. Carp are a staple part of diets all across the world. Overall, It’s a great food fish and can be prepared in many different ways.

If you are a U.S. reader, the idea of carp probably puts you a little on edge. These fish have been vilified for years, sometimes for good reason.

But don’t let that turn you completely off. The best control method for carp may be an abundant fishing market.

Carp are native to Asia and some parts of Europe but have been introduced and even naturalized across most of the globe. They are prolific breeders that are hardy and capable of living in a wide variety of ecosystems. This is why they have become such a problem in the U.S.

Unfortunately, to many in the U.S. Carp are seen to have very little sporting value and even less food value. This is strange considering the view of carp with the rest of the world.

In Asia, carp is a primer food fish while in Europe, the sporting value of carp far surpasses that of any other fish. There are a number of European based dishes that are centered on the Carp and more publications appear every year dedicated to the species.

With a little more attention, I believe that the U.S. could direct more of a focus on carp and this starts with the proper preparation of carp as food.

Carp is an oily fish which can have a great effect on its taste but despite rumor, that isn’t where the supposed ‘muddy’ taste comes from.

The muddy taste is a direct result of a stress reaction in the fish that can be experienced with many of the more sedate fish species.

In truth, that oily muscle makes for a great fish for a fish fry. Done correctly, carp meat will come out moist, flaky, and with a very subtle flavor. A flavor that doesn’t have any hint of a ‘muddy’ or ‘fishy’ taste.

There is one secret to getting a carp to taste as it should. ALWAYS put a carp straight on ice or in a mix of ice and water as fast as possible after a catch.

There is more, but I'm busy right now. To be continued.

Are Carp Good To Eat? - Reel Game

In short, Yes, Carp are good to eat. But, you may have to prepare it properly if you don't like fishy flavor. Carp are a staple part of diets all across the world. Overall, It’s a great food fish and can be prepared in many different ways. If you are a…

reelgame.com

Back in the olden days when I was a kid, our little town had a grain silo for filling barges going up the river to Atlanta, etc, or down to the Gulf. There is always some grain spilled into the water, which attracts all the bottom feeders. Anglers would use heavy tackle with a frizzy nylon cord as bait. It is tons of fun hanging into the big carps.

The Army Corp of Engineers would dredge the river, causing all sorts of environmental damage so a few barges a year could use the river. Now 99.9% of the barge traffic has stopped.

 

[Fogdog]

Back in the olden days when I was a kid, our little town had a grain silo for filling barges going up the river to Atlanta, etc, or down to the Gulf. There is always some grain spilled into the water, which attracts all the bottom feeders. Anglers would use heavy tackle with a frizzy nylon cord as bait. It is tons of fun hanging into the big carps.

The Army Corp of Engineers would dredge the river, causing all sorts of environmental damage so a few barges a year could use the river. Now 99.9% of the barge traffic has stopped.

You mentioned earlier that Black people in your area eat carp. Have you ever seen them prepare it? I'm guessing they breaded and fried their fish.

Carp are eaten all over the world except here, so far as I can tell. Peasant food, that is, food readily available locally and a traditional source of nutrition is usually very good, just monotonous. Carp are considered a delicacy in China and nobody can tell me that Chinese people don't know what's good to eat. My interest lies in finding target species that aren't depleted or being stocked to artificially grow their population. As a diver, I spear fish but have mostly stopped because even the most plentiful species that I hunt are declining. There is a warning not to eat carp from the Willamette River more than a few times a month due to arsenic, which comes from natural sources, not pollution. So, I'm thinking about next year trying my hand at them and I'm curious what others do.

This therad seems as good a place as any to ask around.

 

[DaFreak]

Don’t get me wrong, I love Chinese food, but I don’t know if there is anything alive that crawls, slithers, swims, flies or walks that the Chinese will not eat.

 

[Fogdog]

Don’t get me wrong, I love Chinese food, but I don’t know if there is anything alive that crawls, slithers, swims, flies or walks that the Chinese will not eat.

What could I possibly have gotten wrong with that statement?

 

[rkymtnman]

How to Clean, Fillet and Cook Carp – Mother Earth News

Barbara Ciaramitaro explains how to clean, fillet, and cook carp.

www.motherearthnews.com

How to Prepare and Cook Carp
A two-foot piece of board ten inches wide, with a large nail driven through one end, is a great help in the skinning process . . . and you'll need a rough wooden table — far from the house but near a convenient supply of running water — to carry out the messy job of filleting. Other necessities include a long, thin, sharp knife, a pair of pliers or vice grips, a pan of salted water (half a pound of salt per gallon) for the fillets, and a bucket for the non-edible parts.

First, the skinning. Hose the slime off the carp and impale it near the tail on the spike that sticks up through the board. With the point of the knife, pry off a row of scales far back on the carcass and cut the tough skin underneath. Next use the backbone of the fish to pry against as you slit the skin along the spine from the tail to the bony skull. Then open the belly from end to end, being careful not to spill the guts.


Catch hold of the flap of skin at the tail end with the pliers or vice grips and pull slowly toward the head, taking care to clean the meat off the skin with the knife if any starts to pull loose from the carcass (see Figure 1). An extra pair of hands is really helpful at this point: one person tugging the skin with the pliers while the other holds the carp in place and frees the clinging flesh.

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Cut the meat along the spine and belly and across the skull end of the fillet, and begin to pull the flesh toward the tail, slicing it off the bony ribs as you go (see Figure 2). Once the piece of meat is free, wash it off and put it into the pan of salted water. Then turn the carp over and repeat the process on the other side.

The rest of the carcass makes a high-quality fertilizer.

Soak the meat for ten minutes in the salted water, pat it dry, and cut it crosswise into slices the size of fish sticks. Beat one egg in a bowl with a little milk, dip the fillet strips into this mixture, and roll them in whole wheat flour or cornmeal seasoned with salt, parsley, and sage. Then get the frying pan hot and add vegetable oil or shortening. Brown the coated fish on all sides. (We mix the leftover egg and milk with the seasoned flour and add a dash of baking powder to make a dinner pancake.)

You'll find your carp feast worthy of all that labor. Carp has both. light and dark meat and is fattier than most fish, with a texture that reminds us of tender pork. The meat also has numerous sharp bones when cooked fresh and will have to be carefully picked over bit by bit before being served to young children. (Well, you knew there had to be some disadvantages!)

 

[Fogdog]

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Suck the day doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

[injinji]

You mentioned earlier that Black people in your area eat carp. Have you ever seen them prepare it? I'm guessing they breaded and fried their fish.

Carp are eaten all over the world except here, so far as I can tell. Peasant food, that is, food readily available locally and a traditional source of nutrition is usually very good, just monotonous. Carp are considered a delicacy in China and nobody can tell me that Chinese people don't know what's good to eat. My interest lies in finding target species that aren't depleted or being stocked to artificially grow their population. As a diver, I spear fish but have mostly stopped because even the most plentiful species that I hunt are declining. There is a warning not to eat carp from the Willamette River more than a few times a month due to arsenic, which comes from natural sources, not pollution. So, I'm thinking about next year trying my hand at them and I'm curious what others do.

This therad seems as good a place as any to ask around.

Never seen them prepared. My guess is getting all the fat off is key though.

 

[Rottedroots]

Funny as hell. You guys even argue when you agree with each other. Add another one to the post count

 

[Sir Napsalot]

Why on earth would I eat carp?



Yes, I caught the big one

 

[Fogdog]

Why on earth would I eat carp?

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Yes, I caught the big one

How long ago was that?

I was cleaning my catch of crab at the mouth of the Alsea river after a dive in late October and some fishermen were cleaning two very nice salmon that they had caught. Good for them, good for you too.

I'm not a fisherman, I'm a diver and one can't take salmon with a speargun. If I could, you can be sure that I'd figure it out. My target species, lingcod and black rockfish are in decline and I'm probably not going to take them anymore. Also climate is changing, environment is collapsing. I'm looking for species that are thriving and carp are one of them. Legal to hunt with a supergun too. That same species we have in abundance here is enjoyed by practically all of Asia and other parts of the world. Low cost experiment when the worst that can happen is I overfertilize my garden with failed experiments.

 

[Fogdog]

Jesus Christ foggy you had better hustle. With only 35,000 posts in 6 years you're never going to catch Uncle Buck's 150,000 in 10 years. You should get a job or possibly get a life where is The last resort do something positive with the thousands and thousands of hours you've spent on here sounding and acting like blithering 12-year-olds. Please tell me my horrible math skills are showing. 16 posts a day versus 41 posts a day. It's baffling to think that you've posted so much and said so little. You're wasting your lives. At least think about delivering meals on wheels. It would be of far greater value than your opinions. Just kidding. You guys are the greatest!

Thank you for caring.

 

[Budley Doright]

It’s probably true that many of the non-targeted fish we catch and let go here make for great table fare. We had a group of older guys come up from the States every year and one day I was visiting them and they served up some boiled sunfish pieces (thought of as a garbage fish here) that tasted just like shrimp cocktail. I let bass go and keep sunfish now lol.

 

[CunningCanuk]

It’s probably true that many of the non-targeted fish we catch and let go here make for great table fare. We had a group of older guys come up from the States every year and one day I was visiting them and they served up some boiled sunfish pieces (thought of as a garbage fish here) that tasted just like shrimp cocktail. I let bass go and keep sunfish now lol.

Sunfish are indeed yummy but so is bass. I’ll trade ya an ounce of Gelato for a half dozen 1lb bass!

 

[injinji]

It’s probably true that many of the non-targeted fish we catch and let go here make for great table fare. We had a group of older guys come up from the States every year and one day I was visiting them and they served up some boiled sunfish pieces (thought of as a garbage fish here) that tasted just like shrimp cocktail. I let bass go and keep sunfish now lol.

I live near the Apalachicola River and the Apalachicola National Forest. Our biggest fishing related industry has always been grubbing worms in the national forest, mainly to be used as bait for bream. The bulk of the worms are shipped north. My wife's family is still in the business. They buy the worms from the fish baiters (as that profession is called here), package them and ship them out.

But we do have folks from Alabama and Georgia come down, staying in fish camps, buying food, gas, beer and worms. All in pursuit of bream. But all that has been changing since 1982. Now we have Flathead catfish wreaking havoc. A single adult flathead will eat several pounds of bream a day. I couldn't find the story, but several years back the Florida Fish and Game (rabbit sheriffs) shocked the river and recorded what floated to the top. There were several tons of flathead per mile of river. Starting in the 90's there has been a big push to get fishermen to go after them. Now just about every town on the river has an annual flathead tournament. People catch bream for bait now.

Outdoors: Ugly flathead catfish in Florida Panhandle beautiful for sport, dinner table

The flathead catfish is an exotic invader of river systems in the Florida Panhandle that gobbles just about any native fish that doesn't eat it first.

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