CSI humboldt thread

Mrsmokestacks said:
Lol done that! I like hanging them by a clothespin sometimes and the roots all grow down. A million ways...
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I toss them in the grow tent in a light sealed container so they are at 75-80 degrees and i get pretty damn consistent germ even running many different strains from different breeders. like 36-48 hours and either they are good or they are bad. I have never had a seed crack and then not successfully grow. When they grow into the paper towel its not a big deal, just cut the paper towel around the seed/root and plant the whole mess. It works out just fine. In some ways its easier to get the tap root to point straight down that way.
 
JoeBlow5823 said:
Yeah he is still releasing fresh S1's of very old strains. Quality over hype any day. I cant wait to grow out all my S1's and then start looking at crosses of my favorites.
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That's exactly my plan! I have 130+ bubba s1s, tk s1s, and various other ls. I already have a cheese keeper better than the uk by far. I also have a good pure kush (g1pk). I'm gonna make some dank beans and keep em for the rest of my days. Deep freeze and desiccant for the save.
 
JoeBlow5823 said:
I toss them in the grow tent in a light sealed container so they are at 75-80 degrees and i get pretty damn consistent germ even running many different strains from different breeders. like 36-48 hours and either they are good or they are bad. I have never had a seed crack and then not successfully grow. When they grow into the paper towel its not a big deal, just cut the paper towel around the seed/root and plant the whole mess. It works out just fine. In some ways its easier to get the tap root to point straight down that way.
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Yeah I've tried a million methods. After all these years I have just settled on my favorites. like yours, my method is tried and true and always leads to success if the bean germinates. Temp definitely matters and I failed to mention that in my prior posts.
 
Romis said:
If anybody could do a MAC1 S1, it would be CSI. He blessed us with the TK S1 (Not an easy task). Forever thankful and my first seed to my collection.
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Those TKS1'S are probably my favorite beans! I popped three of the bubbas and I am almost 100% sure I'm going to find an amazing bubba in the s1s. I'm super grateful for his creations. Especially as life moves forward and things change and I move away from keeping a decade old clone collection alive through constant care. I am grateful that I can always take an actual break and close up my grow knowing that I can find a good kush, bubba, or chem pheno anytime I choose to restart things.
 
JoeBlow5823 said:
Keeping mothers that long sounds like a real pain in the dick especially when you only have one crop per year.
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Yeah I had 3 crops last year (indoor), but didn't even run my clones once. Just cut and killed them over and over probably 8 times lol I'm actually reversing, crossing, and selfing my keepers ATM Probably gonna keep em one more year as I hunt a few more things I need then do another reversal and cross em all together and self em all. Then I will just run beans and self anything I deem worthy in the future. I don't need the most elite cuts. I have and will have more seeds from them than I'll ever be able to pop. I rarely find anything that isn't smokable and usually cull that crap early bloom anyhow. I can't tell you how many vacations I missed in the last 12+years. Plus, seeds usually veg faster and have the propensity to outproduce cuts. Sorry. Rant over
 
Has anyone grown any zkittles s1 or her crosses? if so, whatdya think about em? Flavor, effect? Picked up a bunch and have heard zkittles is tasty, but haven't ever ran anything with zkittles in it.
 
im confused here, since an S1 is same strain x same strain, does that mean it be a more stable batch of seeds? I heard Caleb talking about a certain strain of S1's (i forget which) and he said something like itd be good for a breeder to pheno hunt through but not the average joe (because of the inconsistency between phenos im assuming?)
 
I probably just ruined my other 3 t1000 seeds, my paper towel was dry this morning, I guess I never put it in a ziplock, never used this stupid heat mat before either, didnt know it got so dam hot.....Dunno wtf I was thinking as I been using soil to sprout my seeds for the past 23 years and never had a problem, stupid me...
 
dakilla187 said:
I probably just ruined my other 3 t1000 seeds, my paper towel was dry this morning, I guess I never put it in a ziplock, never used this stupid heat mat before either, didnt know it got so dam hot.....Dunno wtf I was thinking as I been using soil to sprout my seeds for the past 23 years and never had a problem, stupid me...
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Honestly I’m no pro but I just put the seeds in a solo cup with water left out for 24 hours to get to room temperature, put seeds in, wait 18-24 hours for tails to pop out then into red solo cup with soil and a little sprinkle of great white in the hole. In a couple days plants sprout. Not sure why ppl make this so hard lol.
 
madvillian420 said:
im confused here, since an S1 is same strain x same strain, does that mean it be a more stable batch of seeds? I heard Caleb talking about a certain strain of S1's (i forget which) and he said something like itd be good for a breeder to pheno hunt through but not the average joe (because of the inconsistency between phenos im assuming?)
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The stability of the S1 is determined by how stable the clone was that started it. Because a lot of Caleb's S1'S are made using heirloom clones or older clone only strains, there is no real selection for him to choose a more stable starting clone. If the cut he used to create the S1's is relatively stable then the S1 seeds should be pretty similar. Things start getting sketchy when you start an S1 program with a somewhat unstable strain on it's own, like the Chem '91, Chem D, OG's, GSC, this can double down on some of the mutants and stress-herm prone traits. So most S1 will have a higher amount of runts and mutants in each pack. On the flipside the best attributes can also be amplified, you can get an offspring even stronger than the parent cut.

Another note, there is some misconception that an S1 will turn out to be just an amplified copy of the parent. That is not really true and most people might be pretty bummed out to see the result is not really like what they started with. The best way I can describe the benefit to selfing a cut into itself, is it takes you backwards into the gene pool. If you S1 an extremely gassy OG, the offspring might put off a completely different smell or high from the other parent. So you can take something old and overworked, self it and the offspring will be completely different spread between the parents but still from the same family tree if that makes sense. It's almost like remaking a bunch of the original seeds that started the strain.

So because the rate of runts is higher, it can be not as fun to a consumer to sift through more seeds to find a truely unique plant. However if you have space and time to sift, you can find something extremely rare. You cannot find seeds of these clone only strains like Chem 91, OG kush, Purple Urkle, GSC, ect ect. But with the selfing method you can find seeds and new phenotypes within them all. That's why they are sought after for breeding/hunting.
 
MInewgrow said:
Honestly I’m no pro but I just put the seeds in a solo cup with water left out for 24 hours to get to room temperature, put seeds in, wait 18-24 hours for tails to pop out then into red solo cup with soil and a little sprinkle of great white in the hole. In a couple days plants sprout. Not sure why ppl make this so hard lol.
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Yea I been doing that for years too, 2##2 this wet napkin bullshit, I used to plant 300 seed batches try wet napkin 300 seeds
 
dakilla187 said:
Yea I been doing that for years too, 2##2 this wet napkin bullshit, I used to plant 300 seed batches try wet napkin 300 seeds
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To each his own...I wet paper towel around 60 to 100 per run. I never have a solo cup sitting there wondering where TF is my seed? Did she live? Should I dig her up to be sure. honestly, that's the exact reason I use the paper towel method. because I've dug up a bunch of seeds after a few days or not popping in the decade plus I've been doing this. I've always caused far more damage when I do that then I do when I try to pull them out of a paper towel and even if they grow into the paper towel I can get that Taproot to slide right out no problem. I keep each cultivar and its own wet paper towel in a bag. I usually just put them above my t5 veg lights on a rack that holds them that way they stay nice and warm. The only problem is if I forget them. but honestly who gives a shit how people start their seeds as long as it works? My method works better for me and more consistently than the other methods I've tried, but that's not saying your experience won't be completely different. Good luck!
 
dakilla187 said:
I probably just ruined my other 3 t1000 seeds, my paper towel was dry this morning, I guess I never put it in a ziplock, never used this stupid heat mat before either, didnt know it got so dam hot.....Dunno wtf I was thinking as I been using soil to sprout my seeds for the past 23 years and never had a problem, stupid me...
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If it's the one with a probe, the secret is to getting the probe in a good spot. Took me a minute to figure it out. I use it in plug trays with great success. But I use my old heating pad with no shut-off and pad the distance with a folded towel, I got it down pat after burning up bunches of good seeds
 
Yea, for me its why fix what nots broken, 3 ungerminated seeds out of hundreds shouldnt mean I should change my whole regiment... I found the ungerminated seeds and put them in a napkin as a last ditch effort
 
Hey everyone! I'm new around here but have been following along with this sub and a few others for a few months as I'm very interested in cannabis genetics, pheno hunting and seed collecting. I love CSI and everything he does and wanted to get involved in this sub since I have a good collection of his genetics now.

madvillian420 said:
im confused here, since an S1 is same strain x same strain, does that mean it be a more stable batch of seeds? I heard Caleb talking about a certain strain of S1's (i forget which) and he said something like itd be good for a breeder to pheno hunt through but not the average joe (because of the inconsistency between phenos im assuming?)
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To answer this, I'll just refer back to Nspecta's Potcast interview where he explained that S1 seeds are never a replica of the mother plant. With respect, your thought that "S1 is same strain x same strain" is not completely accurate. An S1 or "Selfed" seed is the result you get from reversing a female plant, collecting pollen and pollenating a clone of that exact same plant. S1 seeds hold the potential of unlocking a wide variety of phenotypes from the genetics of the plant they came from. He mentions that S1 seeds are great for pheno hunting for this very reason. He also mentions that approximately 40% of the plants you grow from S1 seeds will probably not be very good (or worse than the mother) but still you have the potential of having 60% of the plants you grow out to be as good or BETTER than the mother plant. Which is pretty exciting if you like that sort of stuff. Some people don't care about this at all and would rather have a great plant of the hop. In that case I would stick with his more reputable feminine hybrid crosses. You will get the hybrid vigor from the F1's and won't have to deal with any male plants.

Hope that helps!
 
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