2020 MASSACHUSETTS outdoor grow Thread!

matty-berk

matty-berk

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dunphy said:
Paper bag is dry and may help draw some of the moisture out, But really its only going to go as low as your ambient RH in your house/room/intake air source so you've got to focus on that... but TBH 65% and no lower, sounds kinda like a good problem to have right now, thats a good RH to prolong drying, which is what you want to do... So Id let them go for the next 10 days like that, to be drying, shouldnt be in jars and shit until dry or you're going to dedicate the time to burping and rotating them every hour or two.

Once they've gone 10 days +/- you can start to worry about the jars and stabilizing of the nugs. Sounds like you need to find a dehumidifier for the nxt week though incase that starts to creep up, and so you can slowly drop it toward the end of the dry... I personally aim for 60%RH/60°F in my dry room, but usually have to aim for 65% because mine tends to drop too low (47-52%)
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Good info! My dehumidifier just came in today actually, I set it at 50
 
matty-berk

matty-berk

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dunphy said:
Paper bag is dry and may help draw some of the moisture out, But really its only going to go as low as your ambient RH in your house/room/intake air source so you've got to focus on that... but TBH 65% and no lower, sounds kinda like a good problem to have right now, thats a good RH to prolong drying, which is what you want to do... So Id let them go for the next 10 days like that, to be drying, shouldnt be in jars and shit until dry or you're going to dedicate the time to burping and rotating them every hour or two.

Once they've gone 10 days +/- you can start to worry about the jars and stabilizing of the nugs. Sounds like you need to find a dehumidifier for the nxt week though incase that starts to creep up, and so you can slowly drop it toward the end of the dry... I personally aim for 60%RH/60°F in my dry room, but usually have to aim for 65% because mine tends to drop too low (47-52%)
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and they are dry. i have a moisture meter i use on them and it works amazing. it said they were below 15% wet but really good smoke is at 12% so i still shouldve waited a day i guess. right now they are in my dring room, hanging and are deff dry. i just dont know if i should leave em in the room or remove them. because now i have the dehumdifier going and its already bdown to 58% rh
 
PioneerValleyOG

PioneerValleyOG

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moonman33 said:
Athol is still like an hour and a half towards central mass, ya'll don't know we exist out here!!!! Some of the cheapest taxes in the state though and beautiful quiet towns out here in the Berkshires. There is actually land down my road cheap for sale, but the neighbor has started a HOA for the couple of lots and makes it a nightmare to live in. He is the one who aggressively defends his illegal grow, so maybe there would be some room there? But again, probably outside the range you were thinking. With covid land and houses in town have almost doubled from a few years ago its sad. Big lots can still be had because people don't like to build, but even those prices are going up.

@PioneerValleyOG we don't have police in my town, I call 911 its going to take almost an hour for a cop to show. I run a business and when we get in trouble the cops call to ask us what is going on before bothering to come out. If we can work it out over the phone we do....and lets just say they've never felt the need to come this far out. We have some cameras, and between the dogs and our 2nd amendment rights I feel alright. I make the wife shoot a few times a year in the back yard so she's comfortable, the "home alone" scenario is one we both have thought of.

We have some cameras around the property, but they aren't to protect my couple of plants. Between that and the dogs though, I don't think anyones ever shown up and we didn't know. I'm also not worried about locals, it'd be more people from towns surrounding us.

What are some quick tips you might have?
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First thing, GM, hats off to both of you, and @doug mirabelli , I recommend to you the town of Wendell. its a very nice area with a lake nearby, Wendell State Forest and a pretty tight community. It is a cross of people, you will run into your hippies for certain, Wendell has been a place to live and grow in peace long before it became legal, albeit a few hiccups. There are other hidden gems, like Shutesbury - Erving - Stay outta Northfield, the Chief is a dick. And then you have the Berkshires, Colrain, Heath, Ashfield, all awesome places if you like the sticks and can handle the winters. Just wanted to mention that...

Some quick tips I can offer you if you are that far out I dont imagine you have wifi so are probably using game cams. Place your trail cam up high, like 12 feet. I like to find a tree with no usable climbing branches, I bring in a couple of screw in steps and use them to install the camera, use a stick wedged behind it to make sure it is angled down. Make sure its not pointing at another branch thats going to trigger the cam every time the wind blows. Install your cam (s) and stash the screw in steps nearby, so you dont have to lug them in and out every time. If there is one or two lower branches, snap them off, dont cut them, or saw them partway as close to the trunk from underneath, then snap it off. Point is to make the camera unreachable or extremely a pain to get to, whoever is there wont want to waste a lot of time if devious intentions are afoot. Also, one does not usually look up to see a trail cam, most people seek them at knee to hip level.
Your dogs are definitely your best friends and can see/hear/smell people far away. However, if you have extended property, I suggest something LOUD that scares off the interloper, or that the dogs can hear at a distance would prob set them to barking. I have used Driveway Alarms often, they are triggered by the crossing of a beam and run by battery which in turn trips an alarm of your choosing. Look around Im sure you can find something like this. Anything that makes noise, because the thief is going to be trying so hard to be quiet, once an alarm sound is triggered, of any type, they usually boogey right out of there. Try and set your beam at about 4-4.5 feet so the bears and rabbits and foxes can go under it. You might have some deer trigger it, but once they do, they wont be back to that spot, they will probably learn to go around.
Solar power Motion detector floodlights, another personal favorite. Once a thief is lit up he usually lights out.
Ive seen some real hillbilly thief deterrents, ones I wont mention here simply because they cause mayhem and serious injury and these days youd probably be sued by someone that said they just got lost in the dark, because there is no way they would make it off your property without a stretcher.
But technology gives us a little better edge on protecting our property without having to hurt someone, as much as we would like to for the moment. Ive seen bells and cans strung on a string, strings run to the house from the grow, some ridiculous stuff and some that actually worked. Thats all I got for now, Hope it helps.
 
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moonman33

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PioneerValleyOG said:
First thing, GM, hats off to both of you, and @doug mirabelli , I recommend to you the town of Wendell. its a very nice area with a lake nearby, Wendell State Forest and a pretty tight community. It is a cross of people, you will run into your hippies for certain, Wendell has been a place to live and grow in peace long before it became legal, albeit a few hiccups. There are other hidden gems, like Shutesbury - Erving - Stay outta Northfield, the Chief is a dick. And then you have the Berkshires, Colrain, Heath, Ashfield, all awesome places if you like the sticks and can handle the winters. Just wanted to mention that...

Some quick tips I can offer you if you are that far out I dont imagine you have wifi so are probably using game cams. Place your trail cam up high, like 12 feet. I like to find a tree with no usable climbing branches, I bring in a couple of screw in steps and use them to install the camera, use a stick wedged behind it to make sure it is angled down. Make sure its not pointing at another branch thats going to trigger the cam every time the wind blows. Install your cam (s) and stash the screw in steps nearby, so you dont have to lug them in and out every time. If there is one or two lower branches, snap them off, dont cut them, or saw them partway as close to the trunk from underneath, then snap it off. Point is to make the camera unreachable or extremely a pain to get to, whoever is there wont want to waste a lot of time if devious intentions are afoot. Also, one does not usually look up to see a trail cam, most people seek them at knee to hip level.
Your dogs are definitely your best friends and can see/hear/smell people far away. However, if you have extended property, I suggest something LOUD that scares off the interloper, or that the dogs can hear at a distance would prob set them to barking. I have used Driveway Alarms often, they are triggered by the crossing of a beam and run by battery which in turn trips an alarm of your choosing. Look around Im sure you can find something like this. Anything that makes noise, because the thief is going to be trying so hard to be quiet, once an alarm sound is triggered, of any type, they usually boogey right out of there. Try and set your beam at about 4-4.5 feet so the bears and rabbits and foxes can go under it. You might have some deer trigger it, but once they do, they wont be back to that spot, they will probably learn to go around.
Solar power Motion detector floodlights, another personal favorite. Once a thief is lit up he usually lights out.
Ive seen some real hillbilly thief deterrents, ones I wont mention here simply because they cause mayhem and serious injury and these days youd probably be sued by someone that said they just got lost in the dark, because there is no way they would make it off your property without a stretcher.
But technology gives us a little better edge on protecting our property without having to hurt someone, as much as we would like to for the moment. Ive seen bells and cans strung on a string, strings run to the house from the grow, some ridiculous stuff and some that actually worked. Thats all I got for now, Hope it helps.
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My neighbor has about 1000 foot driveway and uses multiple alarms. I haven’t thought to use them for that, great idea. We have cameras hardwired a few places where people would enter the property and the buildings around, but some nice hidden ones up in the trees is a great idea.

Funny side note about north field, I went to school there for 6 months until they told me I fit better at public schools(this was 20yrs or so ago at this point) I remember walking into the town and if you bought a lighter at the little store they’d call the school and report you :shock:

luckily had a buddy from the town over who was a day student and could hook it up.

what a world.
 
dunphy

dunphy

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matty-berk said:
Anyone ever seen this on a plant? I mean the reat of the plant still looks super healthy but..,
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Yeah Ive had a bunch of these, Think it was just mutated growth somwwhere during its life, tends to happen on some strains more than others ...gorilla glue Ive heard has twisted leaves that show often... I've gotten em on all sorts of strains over the years though and never known them to be an issue, usually itd only be 1-3 fan leaves out of a bunch when it happens, If its distorted growth that is more severe, then its likely a deficiency somewhere.
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PioneerValleyOG

PioneerValleyOG

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NebieDewbieGrower said:
I have been having the weirdest marijuana luck lately... He is even bringing by some Acapulco Gold next week. I am honestly surprised I haven't had mines taken or had an issue... They are out in the open and everyone knows what they are..
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Most of us are generally good people. As a hunter, during hunting season one often walks into another hunters setup, be it trail cam or a tree stand, or a patch of weed. Sportsmen and women I know have a policy, if it aint yours dont touch it. And hopefully my stuff wont get taken, the ol karma rule. Unfortunately, there are scumbags out there, and these days, people do steal tree stands, cameras, and weed patches.
Often, it may not be the friendly neighbor, but the one that the neighbor mentions in passing, 'oh my neighbor is growing some marijuanna' to a friend tells her brother.... andddd, there it goes. Another thing, since everyone can grow it, it is popping up everywhere, and people are sharing, prices are dropping, and now that it IS legal, if you get ripped off, it is a stolen property issue that you can be prosecuted for, where as before, you couldnt call the cops and say 'hey, my weed patch was stolen and I know who did it'. Now, you can. It would be no different than stealing your car.
 
PioneerValleyOG

PioneerValleyOG

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moonman33 said:
My neighbor has about 1000 foot driveway and uses multiple alarms. I haven’t thought to use them for that, great idea. We have cameras hardwired a few places where people would enter the property and the buildings around, but some nice hidden ones up in the trees is a great idea.

Funny side note about north field, I went to school there for 6 months until they told me I fit better at public schools(this was 20yrs or so ago at this point) I remember walking into the town and if you bought a lighter at the little store they’d call the school and report you :shock:

luckily had a buddy from the town over who was a day student and could hook it up.

what a world.
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Yes if your cameras are hard wired I imagine they are visible and a thief would take steps to avoid them. I can almost bet without seeing the layout that the cameras are designed to capture vehicles coming and going. We can talk more about this if you like. Im about to be going into Harvest Mode, and you know the constant work that entails. But I can always find time to chat.
 
NebieDewbieGrower

NebieDewbieGrower

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PioneerValleyOG said:
Most of us are generally good people. As a hunter, during hunting season one often walks into another hunters setup, be it trail cam or a tree stand, or a patch of weed. Sportsmen and women I know have a policy, if it aint yours dont touch it. And hopefully my stuff wont get taken, the ol karma rule. Unfortunately, there are scumbags out there, and these days, people do steal tree stands, cameras, and weed patches.
Often, it may not be the friendly neighbor, but the one that the neighbor mentions in passing, 'oh my neighbor is growing some marijuanna' to a friend tells her brother.... andddd, there it goes. Another thing, since everyone can grow it, it is popping up everywhere, and people are sharing, prices are dropping, and now that it IS legal, if you get ripped off, it is a stolen property issue that you can be prosecuted for, where as before, you couldnt call the cops and say 'hey, my weed patch was stolen and I know who did it'. Now, you can. It would be no different than stealing your car.
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Hopefully it stays that way and I don't have to worry about much.. I am kind of spoiled and am happy that I do not have to lock up my plants.. My other neighbor hates people, so he is a great help... Haha!
 
NebieDewbieGrower

NebieDewbieGrower

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PioneerValleyOG said:
Yes if your cameras are hard wired I imagine they are visible and a thief would take steps to avoid them. I can almost bet without seeing the layout that the cameras are designed to capture vehicles coming and going. We can talk more about this if you like. Im about to be going into Harvest Mode, and you know the constant work that entails. But I can always find time to chat.
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I have ADT and have cameras outside and inside.. Monthly I pay $40, but it isn't just for marijuana.. Don't need anything happening in my home or on my property that isn't recorded.. I would hate to be liable for some BS
 
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