SOG growers wanted !!!

[CustomHydro]

thanks for the help guys....we'll get it

No prob, I want to see your op get going in full swing! You are doing the same thing I will be doing, if I catch up to you, I cant learn from your mistakes anymore...lol
If u really don't like RW method, don't try it. I won't be disapointed.
I just saw u were pissed at your cloner and I thought I'd lay out a back up plan for you or whoever.

 

[CustomHydro]

Whats up fellas, i finished with my veg cabinet. It looks so dope to me. Can you guys offer some recommendations on what type of nutrients to use for my vegging cycle?

I'm thinking NovaGrow or the 3 part Flora Micro/bloom/flower. I think of all the parts of the growing process this is the area i least understand. For the 2x3 tray. Since i need a 40 gallon res for a 4x4 tray i figure a 20 gallon res would work. But should i use a lessor amount of water? ya know to save nutrients?

You need to make sure you will have enough to flood the trays to a certain height, so how much water depends on several factors. Going off of the info provided tho, if 40gal is sufficient for a 4x4 then yes 20 will be fine for 2x3. Just remember, the less water you have in the res, the weaker the nutes will get towards the end of the 2week cycle.

If I were to run a 2 week harvest system and only took 6 cuttings every 2 weeks, which wattage hps light would I need for my flowering room? Would one 400w or 600w be able to handle the 24 plants that would be under it at a time? If not, how many plants max. could be placed under a 400w or 600w light respectively growing SOG style?

Go with a 600, that will be a good match for what u are doin.

 

[calichris21]

Thanks for the reply CustomHydro!

 

[sparkafire]

If I were to run a 2 week harvest system and only took 6 cuttings every 2 weeks, which wattage hps light would I need for my flowering room? Would one 400w or 600w be able to handle the 24 plants that would be under it at a time? If not, how many plants max. could be placed under a 400w or 600w light respectively growing SOG style?

Always go with the largest light you can. = Bigger and better buds

You need to make sure you will have enough to flood the trays to a certain height, so how much water depends on several factors. Going off of the info provided tho, if 40gal is sufficient for a 4x4 then yes 20 will be fine for 2x3. Just remember, the less water you have in the res, the weaker the nutes will get towards the end of the 2week cycle.

That and it makes your PH harder to control. I use the flora nova series and have has suckless success.

 

[CustomHydro]

That and it makes your PH harder to control. I use the flora nova series and have has suckless success.

Yep, true. Flora and Floranova are both fantastic for ph control. Thats y I like em so much.

Do you have to adjust PH when u first mix Floranova, Sparky or does it even it out pretty good?

 

[grandpabear3]

No prob, I want to see your op get going in full swing! You are doing the same thing I will be doing, if I catch up to you, I cant learn from your mistakes anymore...lol
If u really don't like RW method, don't try it. I won't be disapointed.
I just saw u were pissed at your cloner and I thought I'd lay out a back up plan for you or whoever.

i'm almost there...i have tried rw many many times and just failed at it again....admitedly i could have done some things different but thanks for the advice regardless. and i'm pissed all the time, dont worry i'll take it out on you eventually.

 

[grandpabear3]

mini update....got the aquarium heaters that stay at a constant 78 degrees and i put my thermo heat mat under the cloner so the water is perfect now. i have a space heater at the growing tips and it is set for 80 and blows warm air over them. then i put a humidome over half of them just to see if there is a difference. i also took cuttings from as low on the plant as possible. i will only need 1 more set of clones from these moms then the little ones will replace the last 4 with 6 fresh new moms. i have definately noticed my bitches showing signs of old age and i will not wait so ling to replace them next time. cant wait to flower 4 of these bitches at the same time ....that'll be a huge harvest and off the books...so to speak. so i am going to buy some cloning solution for the cloner....i hear great things and it might make the difference for me. those of you that follow know what i mean....lol. thanks to everyone that reads this thread. it means more to me than it should.
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[Return of the Spork]

I am with you bugs, RW was a complete failure, and I am trying a DIY Bubble Cloner.

My problem with RW was that they would just bend over and lose all stem strength. Temps were fine, cuts were sterile.

I have now read every cloning technique on the internet I think, the only thing left for me to try is to take the cuts and let them sit in a glass of water for 24 hours since supposedly that reinforces stem strength.

Id really rather use the RW, however the idea of a fairly maintenance free cloner sounds more appealing to me.

I assume the aero method with the pvc misters is way more reliable than the bubblewand method?

 

[grandpabear3]

I am with you bugs, RW was a complete failure, and I am trying a DIY Bubble Cloner.

My problem with RW was that they would just bend over and lose all stem strength. Temps were fine, cuts were sterile.

I have now read every cloning technique on the internet I think, the only thing left for me to try is to take the cuts and let them sit in a glass of water for 24 hours since supposedly that reinforces stem strength.

Id really rather use the RW, however the idea of a fairly maintenance free cloner sounds more appealing to me.

I assume the aero method with the pvc misters is way more reliable than the bubblewand method?

ya rw ifiddly and i'm lazy sooo aero was the way to go. i've had issues with rooting times but it is a superior method by any standards. its just so easy and simple once you "get it"

 

[Return of the Spork]

I said it in the other thread, but even though it has only been about 14 hours, these set of clones look GREAT compared to shitty ass RW. I regret not trying this first.

Also, I will be doing a somewhat mini SOG op. Only 9 at a time because its all I can currently fit, but it will produce more than I would need which means...lots of hash =)

I am doing Jack Herer, but I want to also get a couple other mothers of diff strains so I can cycle them and get variety. Anyone have any good indica coughlock sleepy strains that would produce nice yield in SoG? I intend to make hash with all the excess bud so lots of resin would be nice. However getting a knock you on your ass go to sleep high for medicinal use is what I am really looking for.

Ideas?

Oh and Spark, you are in SD area right? You order online or use a hydro store? Reason I ask is because I want to pick up a few small items that I can't justify paying shipping for.

 

[sparkafire]

Oh and Spark, you are in SD area right? You order online or use a hydro store? Reason I ask is because I want to pick up a few small items that I can't justify paying shipping for

I have not bought anything for my garden off the net all from my local hydro store which has helped me greatly.

 

[Return of the Spork]

If you wouldn't mind PM'ing me the details I think I can bring them a bit more business. Thusfar I haven't stepped out of the online aspect because I wasn't sure where to go. But I have followed your progress since I started going to RIU and I think I could definitely trust your opinion.

 

[grandpabear3]

dont do it spark...it's a set up!!!

 

[sparkafire]

dont do it spark...it's a set up!!!

I don't know spork Let me eat another brownie and i will let you know.

 

[Return of the Spork]

Brownies eh, just tried hash last night for my first time. Was very hard hitting I like. I slept well for the first time in a while.

 

[kpw555]

Greetings Growers,

Great thread Sparkafire!

I am currently putting together a SOG on a 3x3 table and I noticed this thread and the amount of cloning content. Funny, that is right where I am in my op, just trying to get clones to strike.

I patterned my op after Al B Fuct but he is gone now

The clones in the pic are from 2 - 4 days from their mamma. They seem to be looking ok, I am biting my nails with the main stems of 4 different plants trying to strike.

As I mentioned I have only 1 3x3 table, anyone have an opinion on the nute strength that will get them through the whole time. I can't flush them or change the strength for only part of the table.

 

[grandpabear3]

Greetings Growers,

s'up homie?

Great thread Sparkafire!

don't encourage him please or you will be asked to leave the room.

I am currently putting together a SOG on a 3x3 table and I noticed this thread and the amount of cloning content. Funny, that is right where I am in my op, just trying to get clones to strike.

BITCHIN"....let's get to work

I patterned my op after Al B Fuct but he is gone now

he may be gone but his stench remains......jk, spark and i are skewl of fuct graduates ourselves as are many others in this thread. we patterned much of our grows after his. he's still around though, just not active......shhhh he's watchin' us

The clones in the pic are from 2 - 4 days from their mamma. They seem to be looking ok, I am biting my nails with the main stems of 4 different plants trying to strike.

just wait till you've killed a hundred or so....lmao.....good fuckin times man, lol ....i'm so high off this white widow it's fuckin silly weed

As I mentioned I have only 1 3x3 table, anyone have an opinion on the nute strength that will get them through the whole time.

yes sir 1400 the whole fuckin time, at least from canna or gh 3 part

I can't flushthem or change the strength for only part of the table.

you're ok , no flush needed. just change the nutes every 2 weeks and top up in between with fresh water only and ph it to 5.8 so the plants use up the food. and it's almost a mini flush, the ppm finishes lower at the end of the 2 weeks . hope i helped more than i hurt

 

[kpw555]

Thanks for the reply Bugs +rep for speed.

I hope I don't have to kill a hundred, I don't want to kill any .

I was hoping to have some kind bud for the holiday season, but that deadline has come and gone, have to wait till the new year.

I will have about 10-12 more nice cuttings in the next week or so. I am not sure how many I am going to be able to flower at once, I am hoping 30+ that would be 7-8 every two weeks.

Keep up the good fight growers

 

[livesoul]

Yo whatsup guys, got another question for some vets. I’ve nearly completed setting up my setup. I have two separate rooms built in my closet. You can see the layout from the first sketch. I’m trying to ventilate both rooms and I’m not sure quite how to do it. I can pull cool air from a bathroom located somewhere else in my house. This is the equipment:

2x Can Fans 256cfm
2x Bathroom fans
1 environmental control: humid, temp, Co2
1 carbon filter

ROOM1: Flowering a SOG under a 1000watt HPS running 12/12 light cycle
ROOM2: Veggin 6 mothers under a 400watt MH running 24 hour light

From the diagram I presented I was thinking of running one of the can fans to cool light the 1000watter. I was thinking of killing two birds with one stone and pulling the hot air from the veg room and running straight through the 1000 watt. I wanted to do this also to keep the room sealed to better control the Co2. I’m not sure how to best utilize the equipment. One problem i'm thinking about with what i just mentioned is that the fan will be running 24 hour, so basically cooling the the 1000watter while its off. Also, the way i sketched doesn't really work because i can't fit the carbon filter in somewhere there. Peep it out and let me know if you have any questions. Any suggestions would be great!!!!

Ps. I can have fans actually in the flower room, or I could have it in the space between the two rooms. I’m planning on having the ballasts in this area to minimize heat from them.

 

[bts420]

Ok it took a while, but I got my sister's camera... spend all your $ on your grow and you cant buy a camera. =) This is my first time growing hydro in a tray like this. Ok, here's whats there. 2x 400 watt ceramic metal halides, 450 cfm fan, 4x4 table with hydroton, little bit chunky perlite, and some coco. Started the clones straight in the 4x4 with painters plastic over the pvc and a spray bottle for humidity. Started 64 and 44 rooted. 18/6 with 4 days plain h2O, 11 days general hydroponics seedling nutes, then 12 days mild growth nutes. Day 28 I flushed 3 times plain h2o @ 5.7 ph and day 29 they went 12/12 on bloom nutes. This is day 6 of 12/12 and they are just getting over the pvc.. I plan to place a screen over the pvc and start to tie or fold through like week 2-3 of flower.
Also the mom's under 2x 4ft 4 bulb T5's. Ocean mix soil with some worm castings, coco fibers, and perlite in 5 gal buckets. =)