iBLaZe4tozErO
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$15 here in my area
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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iBLaZe4tozErO
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what type of air flow you have. ?Hey Stink -
I'm attaching some pics here in an attempt to figure out what's going on or if you've seen anything like this before. I'm thinking it's pH, possibly heat. My temps hover between 75-80. Water temp is fine and they had no nutes when these problems occured. They are about 10 days old and you see the orange spots and twisting of leaf edges?
Thanks again!!!
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trevor50020
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I found them at lowes.
There are about the only place i have found so far carrying the ruffneck. Wally world , kmart, target and home depot , none of them had it .
Lowes.com, it's both online and at my local store.
I'm going to start my grow soon Trying to get everything in place first, I already have cloner parts ( minus ruffneck) now i'm moving onto the veg units
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There are about the only place i have found so far carrying the ruffneck. Wally world , kmart, target and home depot , none of them had it .
Lowes.com, it's both online and at my local store.
I'm going to start my grow soon Trying to get everything in place first, I already have cloner parts ( minus ruffneck) now i'm moving onto the veg units
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StinkBud
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They look fine for being 10 days old. Eventually you might see those bottom leaves completely die. Just pick them off.
What's happening is the plant has been without any nutes for over a week now. Right away it starts transferring nutrients from the bottom leaves to the new growth. It's perfectly normal.
You'll notice that the new growth still looks fine. That's what you want to watch. But...
The more I look at the photos the more the plants look like seedlings... Am I high?
If they are seedlings they must have roots by now and if that is the case it's time for nutrients.
DIRTHAWKER
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Well Stink you answered the question before i could post my pics..
these are 2 weeks rooted clones 1 week on nutes.
you can see the little tinge of brown going on,, i didnt really think is was cause for concern beacuse they are expolding with growth.
ps....i built one of my flower units today...easy as pie.
these are 2 weeks rooted clones 1 week on nutes.
you can see the little tinge of brown going on,, i didnt really think is was cause for concern beacuse they are expolding with growth.
ps....i built one of my flower units today...easy as pie.
DragonPhoenix
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Yes they are seedlings. I think I may have been vague in my other posts or asked different questions because I remember earlier I asked about yellowing and that was with clones. So here's the deal with my setup.
I had 2 female WW's (about 12" tall each) in dirt and it was time to take clones. I built the aerocloner and decided to also germinate a bunch of seeds to put in the aerocloner along with the clones. A previous post I asked about clones with yellowing of leaves. This problem I just posted was with seedlings. So....I'll up the dosage of nutes they are getting I just can't believe how FAST things are growing. I'm amazed...sorry I'm going on and on...I'm high.
So anyway - I'll put more pics up later but here's what I go growing in the aerocloner.
Barney's Farm - Sweet Tooth
Thai Super Skunk
White Widow
Big Bud
Dutch Passion - Skywalker
Duth Passion - Purple #1
Dutch Passion - Strawberry Cough
I also just germinated the following
Delta 9 - Fruit of the Gods
Reserva Privada - Purple Wreck
Paradise - White Berry
edit - I have BCBD Purps and The Black to arrive any day now
I have read some people having probs with the Purple Wreck not germinating and I'm having the same issue while my FOG and White Berry have both germinated no prob .
DIRTHAWKER
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light trap vent.
After doing some research on the forum, somebody recomended this light trap vent used in photography dark rooms. I was thinking of buying 2 of them and putting them on the lower wall of the flower room. And a powerfull exhaust fan on the ceiling sucking air up to the attic vent.
what do yall think?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ght_Tight.html
After doing some research on the forum, somebody recomended this light trap vent used in photography dark rooms. I was thinking of buying 2 of them and putting them on the lower wall of the flower room. And a powerfull exhaust fan on the ceiling sucking air up to the attic vent.
what do yall think?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ght_Tight.html
StinkBud
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Wow! That's some quiver you got going! I've only bought seeds once, from Dr.Chronic. My quiver is all from clones passed around the med community.
I'm researching some good Sativa strains now. I want something with some classic Haze in it. I'm going to put them in my mini Aero/NFT and just let them go. You just can't beat the high of a Sativa!
DragonPhoenix
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There are no med clubs around here so I had to buy my seeds. I also have the following growing in soil -
Nirvana - Cal Orange Bud
Nirvana - Master Kush
Nirvana - AK-48
Carmelicious from amsterdam seeds
I'm interested to see if I can tell the difference between them because right now with the stuff I buy I can't really tell any difference so I'm hoping with my grow that I'll be able to distinguish between different types if that makes sense.
Have you seen the Brainstorm Haze from Delta9? I had ordered it from attitude but they were all out so I substituted Fruit of the Gods instead. Brainstorm Haze is supposed to be some pretty good stuff...just food for thought.
I checked my veg res this morning and the friggin pH has climbed to almost 7! ARGH! I had 9 gallons in the res so I added another 4 and added nutes appropriately which brought me to about 1500ppm and then I pH'd down to 5.5. I'll just keep monitoring my pH and adjust daily if I need to or every couple days if it'll keep my plants healthy but hopefully that won't be needed.
Cheers,
DP
peaceb2usall
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I would definitely say this climbing PH thing is something that is a problem or potentially a problem happening to more than one person no?
It also could be that you guys are checking them frequently no? I mean I read all of Stinkb's stuff and he has said multiple times he just fills and leaves it until 3 weeks.
*Stink* have you tested the water at the end of the three weeks because maybe this problem is just normal and not a problem? Also I have seen you guys reference Aero/NFT what is NFT? it's not in the newbs vocab
It also could be that you guys are checking them frequently no? I mean I read all of Stinkb's stuff and he has said multiple times he just fills and leaves it until 3 weeks.
*Stink* have you tested the water at the end of the three weeks because maybe this problem is just normal and not a problem? Also I have seen you guys reference Aero/NFT what is NFT? it's not in the newbs vocab
MrGreenTsi420
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Great post! Keep up the good work!!
StinkBud
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I did check the PH in my Aero cloner. It was low (5.0)! I had to add PH up.
PH rising is usually a signal that something is growing in your water. Also, sometimes Hydroton will cause problems if it isn't PH'd first. We don't use any medium (right?) so it must be the funk or something else.
But didn't didn't some of you have seedlings? What were they growing in? If they are in some sort of medium then maybe that's whats causing the PH rise.
Also, your water temps need to be under 72 degrees. This is a common problem with all hydro systems. That's why you see so many water chillers on the market.
My veg room is kept at around 75 and the water temp is under 65. My flower room is kept at 85 and my water temp stays 68-72
Like I said before just use some Hygrozyme to keep the funk under control. Also make sure you clean everything very well first and start with fresh water.
I'm also wondering if there might be something in your water or somehow your water is different than mine. Dirt isn't having any PH problems using distilled water. Usually water dosen't have anything to do with PH though.
I wish I could be more help but the fact is I've never had any problems with my system. Everything runs like clockwork. (Except for pests) All I can do is try to figure out what is different from my system and assume that is the problem. Which ends up being a big Easter egg hunt.
Aero/NFT - Aero is short for Aeroponics, NFT stands for Nutrient Film Technique. My flower system is a hybrid of both.
The Aero comes from the fact that we use sprayers and a cycle timer to control the roots air time. The NFT comes from the thin film of nutrient rich water that is run over the roots. NFT has been around for awhile now. Aeroponics is still fairly new.
DragonPhoenix
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Well I am using RO water - not tap water so there is a difference there.
I do have seedlings but I'm only using the netpots and neoprene collars. I germinate the seeds in a soiless mix (perlite, pro-mix, and fox farm soil) and put them into the aeroponic unit once they are a couple inches tall so I'm not using any hydroton, rockwool, etc.
I guess the only thing I can do is just to keep monitoring it and see what happens. I figured that the Hydroguard would be a Hygrozome equivalent but maybe it's not...
Hey Stink - when you say you bring your res up to 1500 for example are you measuring your water first and then just making sure you add 1500ppm in nutes? So for example if your water is 200ppm and you say in your post add till you get a 1500 reading are you actually only adding 1300 ppm of nutes?
I do have seedlings but I'm only using the netpots and neoprene collars. I germinate the seeds in a soiless mix (perlite, pro-mix, and fox farm soil) and put them into the aeroponic unit once they are a couple inches tall so I'm not using any hydroton, rockwool, etc.
I guess the only thing I can do is just to keep monitoring it and see what happens. I figured that the Hydroguard would be a Hygrozome equivalent but maybe it's not...
Hey Stink - when you say you bring your res up to 1500 for example are you measuring your water first and then just making sure you add 1500ppm in nutes? So for example if your water is 200ppm and you say in your post add till you get a 1500 reading are you actually only adding 1300 ppm of nutes?
dvsdsm
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I ran into this problem on my cloner i'm making this weekend. My 2" netpots don't hardly have a lip and my 2" hole saw made them where they'd drop thru from the weight of a wet 1.5 grodan starter plug in it let alone a 3 week vegged plant. So how i'm gonna remedy this is by taking some black tubing and cutting a strip length wise so i can basically create a gasket seal for each netpot. Alot more time consuming I suppose, but better peace of mind when the clones turn into ladies and not falling thru. Will post pics when i get it going.
DIRTHAWKER
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Brainstorming medicinal session last night.
Standing in my new flower room i had a vision...
I saw 3 AERO/NFT flower systems side by side.
And above them was two 600 watt hps's on light rails, going in opposite directions to cover every square inch of the garden below. 600 watters dont put off too much heat, so they can be set pretty close to the canopy, (highest plants). Lower heat, lower electricity. The newest plants could go in the center for the most light.
Is this a sound plan, or was i in medicinal lala land?
mondo 20x30 inch reflectors
Standing in my new flower room i had a vision...
I saw 3 AERO/NFT flower systems side by side.
And above them was two 600 watt hps's on light rails, going in opposite directions to cover every square inch of the garden below. 600 watters dont put off too much heat, so they can be set pretty close to the canopy, (highest plants). Lower heat, lower electricity. The newest plants could go in the center for the most light.
Is this a sound plan, or was i in medicinal lala land?
mondo 20x30 inch reflectors
DragonPhoenix
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I know this may sound blasphemous but from my measurements you can adequately light the 3 systems with a 1000w light.
General rule of thumb is 50w of HID light per square foot and and three systems side by side is less than 5 feet wide and 4 feet deep.
Now obviously two 600w is going to be MUCH better due to the mulitple light sources, there will be overlap and 600w HPS is the most efficient lamp there is in terms of lumens per watt so this is going to be very good for your plants. I know those rail systems aren't exactly cheap so I was just trying to save you a little coin but I'm sure it'll work awesome if you have that set up.
DP
General rule of thumb is 50w of HID light per square foot and and three systems side by side is less than 5 feet wide and 4 feet deep.
Now obviously two 600w is going to be MUCH better due to the mulitple light sources, there will be overlap and 600w HPS is the most efficient lamp there is in terms of lumens per watt so this is going to be very good for your plants. I know those rail systems aren't exactly cheap so I was just trying to save you a little coin but I'm sure it'll work awesome if you have that set up.
DP
DIRTHAWKER
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DragonPhoenix
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Cool - I don't know why but for some reason I thought they were up around $200.
edit: I know why I thought they were around $200 - http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=221
looks like there are some major differences between the two...
supdro
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Hey stink I have a question for you about your nutes.... Have you always used cal-mag from botanicare?? and what happened when you didn't use it or did?? do you feel that you need it??? My previous grows have been without it. The guy at he hydro shop said I don't need it. I want to do my next grow with tap water and have no nutrient deficiencies. I want the prettiest buds possible. Please let me know asap because if it is a good idea to have I need to go get some today. thanks in advance and you are a master!!! 