Lockdowns don't work.

[Budley Doright]

Nah, ya'll are just afraid I'm going to embolden the morons into going outside and getting infected, as if they're not just as likely in the grocery store.

Seems you are not really embolding anyone to do anything. You yourself have said you’ve done a poor job, so nope not worried, I am worried about your stress level and your family though (I am sincere about that BTW) Did you try to get them out before the shit hit the fan? It sounds like it’s not a good place to be now?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

no ...you are a mouthy internet bully who's sig line is that of a mental case

I'm calling you what you are and you have trouble dealing with the reality. Support Trump and I'll hold your feet to the fucking fire, no problem at all. You stand and defend what you believe or STFU and stop making a fool out of yourself. This is a matter of many tens of thousands of lives and you still don't have fucking clue. You support Trump, now you had better be prepared to defend the stupid fuck. If you're a Canadian supporting Trump on this forum I'll will be your worst fucking nightmare. I'm a man who lives by values and principles, you are not, I'm a patriot, you are not, you don't even know the difference between basic right and wrong.

 

[abandonconflict]

Seems you are not really embolding anyone to do anything. You yourself have said you’ve done a poor job, so nope not worried, I am worried about your stress level and your family though (I am sincere about that BTW) Did you try to get them out before the shit hit the fan? It sounds like it’s not a good place to be now?

I've emboldened you to constantly make dumb remarks and try to get under my skin for days.

Also, nobody said you had to take your pasty ass outside.

 

[Budley Doright]

i am ok.

.. read his sig line and do a bit of thinking..it is ridiculous..

also .. you are being insincere..

big cyber hugs

Coronavirus Symptoms (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Possible symptoms, as observed in studies, of infection with the Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) originating from Wuhan, China

www.worldometers.info

Yes I am kind of. The last thing I would call DIY is a bully. Long winded perhaps lol. Hugs right back at ya .

 

[abandonconflict]

3 billion people are under lockdown right now on this planet.

 

[Budley Doright]

I've emboldened you to constantly make dumb remarks and try to get under my skin for days.

Also, nobody said you had to take your pasty ass outside.

Oh I’m outside a lot thanks, lots to do around the house. And yup long winter so my ass is rather pasty. Thank you for your concern.

 

[abandonconflict]

Oh I’m outside a lot thanks, lots to do around the house. And yup long winter so my ass is rather pasty. Thank you for your concern.

Oh I'm not concerned, I just wish you'd stop being so desperate to derail my threads. You've been at that for months and haven't made any thoughtful arguments, just emotional pleas for me to stop questioning things in ways that seem to somehow bother you.

I really don't make my threads for you and yet you constantly show up in my alerts. I hate to say I'd be relieved if you got intubated.

 

[Rob Roy]

More unintended bad consequences will occur as a result of the lockdowns than will occur due to this virus.

Since Democide (death by government murder ) is a leading cause of death historically, it's not unreasonable to examine the unintended consequences of INCREASED governmental controls. There will be many, some will directly cause death, many will lessen quality of life and cause a fundamental shift in human relationships, mostly in a negative way.

We aren't "heading for a Police State world", we're in the midst of it.

 

[hanimmal]

I wonder what the demographics are of those numbers in NYC? I bet there is some good data theee to be found regarding transmission an how best to stop it.

That being in public places is getting more and more dangerous and that when you are that packed into a city you need to start being way safer then ever before.

i am ok.

.. read his sig line and do a bit of thinking..it is ridiculous..

also .. you are being insincere..

big cyber hugs

Coronavirus Symptoms (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Possible symptoms, as observed in studies, of infection with the Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) originating from Wuhan, China

www.worldometers.info

As much as I agree people take things too far.

Denying that Trump indeed invited Russia and other foreign nations attack our democracy is even further out there than his sig.

 

[Budley Doright]

you do know there is an ignore option right? If you don’t want to converse with me that is your right, you seem to spend much effort doing just that. I won’t be upset. I actually think I have presented many good counter points to your asinine hypothesis that lockdowns don’t work. You yourself have admitted to doing a shittty job in making your point, try harder.

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

Oh I’m outside a lot thanks, lots to do around the house. And yup long winter so my ass is rather pasty. Thank you for your concern.

played serious [senile ]singles tennis all winter....i could still run 8k and not blink..but yeh.. i am still in my 70's..and of course "senile"

i wish you the best..

Yes I am kind of. The last thing I would call DIY is a bully. Long winded perhaps lol. Hugs right back at ya .

hilarious

reread sig line ..


thanks

 

[abandonconflict]

you do know there is an ignore option right?

Will that keep you from derailing my thread and burying my long, researched arguments that sometimes take me hours to compose?

Sincerely, I don't mind if you disagree. In fact, I want people to disagree, but what you do is shitpost and angrily berate. This thread shouldn't be 32 pages. Take an honest look at which posts contain the most effort in this thread.

 

[Budley Doright]

Will that keep you from derailing my thread and burying my long, researched arguments that sometimes take me hours to compose?

Sincerely, I don't mind if you disagree. In fact, I want people to disagree, but what you do is shitpost and angrily berate. This thread shouldn't be 32 pages. Take an honest look at which posts contain the most effort in this thread.

Please show me where I have angrily berated you or tried to derail your thread. And no you don’t want people to disagree, that is very apparent

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

Abandon, what do you think of the 3 phase back to new norm that Dr Fauci and Dr Birx laid out yesterday at the Virus Task Force Briefing ? Is it ok for me to post on your thread?

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

That being in public places is getting more and more dangerous and that when you are that packed into a city you need to start being way safer then ever before.


As much as I agree people take things too far.

Denying that Trump indeed invited Russia and other foreign nations attack our democracy is even further out there than his sig.

oh that is so silly bro........thanks for half agreeing about DIY's mental problems sig anyway

you notice the fear and bigotism in my sig ...?

no you don't

is it in his?

uhuh..in spades

along with serious trump derangement syndrome..and a lack of democracy

[libs/dems lost......having tds is not noble]
and of course i agree that high density populations are prone to"what goes around comes around"

imo it seems the cure is going to be worse than the new virus..

i worry much more about worldwide starvation and i am well in the vulnerable age zone

here are the sats on the virus

Coronavirus Symptoms (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Possible symptoms, as observed in studies, of infection with the Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) originating from Wuhan, China

www.worldometers.info

as well we know WAY more people have the virus than is diaganosed

% goes down way more

they will have medication to help control problems from the virus

flu vacines don't work well on old people..

90% of deaths are[very] older people and most of them have 1 or more underlying problems

that said:

it sucks ..i don't want it ..or want any of you to get it

God bless

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Abandon you have a first class mind under piss poor control, your emotions control your thoughts and your reasoning ability is a servant. I've only read a fraction of your posts over the last year or so, but you appear to have a bit of a case of PTSD from your experiences in the service. This comes out in times of stress as more intensified emotions that color your thinking. PTSD is a spectrum condition and ranges from mild to severe as you. probably know.

You spotted the anomaly in the new york data, but assigned incorrect causes and never spun more than one hypothesis. I would suggest you take up a mindfulness meditation practice to become aware of and gain control of your feelings and emotions, before they gain control of your mind. You have a powerful mind, but it needs to be put under "new" management. The practice works like any other exercise, the full effects take a few weeks to manifest. It can help a lot with PTSD and you can PM me anytime you like for a private chat. If you have not done this, then you know nothing about it, its experiential, book learning does not help much. It's simply an exercise and works like one and is as hard to stick to as exercise. Peace comes from within and if you wish to abandon conflict, then abandon the one inside you first.

An offer of help, not an attack, do some research, its evidence based and its original purpose was to reduce or even end suffering, it works very well for this purpose too. I'm what's called a Buddhist geek and there a ton of psychologists and shrinks who are too, I've trained with a few many years ago. Look into the research and avail yourself of the ancient wisdom, for this is also a wisdom practice too. Its as simple as attending to your breath and returning to it when your mind wanders. How many breaths can you attend to without mental interruption?

I'd be suprised if you didn't already know a bit about this subject, or think you do at least.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Coronavirus explained: How and when to end a lockdown

 

[hanimmal]

oh that is so silly bro........thanks for half agreeing about DIY's mental problems sig anyway

you notice the fear and bigotism in my sig ...?

no you don't

is it in his?

uhuh..in spades

along with serious trump derangement syndrome..and a lack of democracy

[libs/dems lost......having tds is not noble]
and of course i agree that high density populations are prone to"what goes around comes around"

imo it seems the cure is going to be worse than the new virus..

i worry much more about worldwide starvation and i am well in the vulnerable age zone

here are the sats on the virus

Coronavirus Symptoms (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Possible symptoms, as observed in studies, of infection with the Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) originating from Wuhan, China

www.worldometers.info

as well we know WAY more people have the virus than is diaganosed

% goes down way more

they will have medication to help control problems from the virus

flu vacines don't work well on old people..

90% of deaths are[very] older people and most of them have 1 or more underlying problems

that said:

it sucks ..i don't want it ..or want any of you to get it

God bless

Just because you are not putting it in your sig doesn't make what you are saying any better.

Not about the virus, even Dear Leader was forced to acknowledged it is real now and not a Democrat "Hoax". I wish you well too.

I am very curious who you listen to to think that there is not direct evidence that Trump has broken several laws now trying to cover up for his involvement and knowledge of Russia attacking our democracy.

Do you also question that Trump was so afraid of losing to Biden actually tried to force a vulnerable allied nation to manufacture dirt on him to boost his chances of not running against him?

Are you that involved in Dear Leader's cult that you pick the things he says that you want to believe are true and ignore the rest?

 

[UncleBuck]

Which side of the Pandemic is he funding though?

He ain't no Siddhartha.

a retard has a conspiracy theory

 

[Rob Roy]

a retard has a conspiracy theory

When Bill Gates starts pounding nails to help people with 140 year old Jimmy Carter I may be willing to reconsider my position.