I'm about 9 to 10 months, then use the old as a spare.
I only run mine for flowering.
I'll do two
Where do you buy them because that website doesn't give you the optionI'm about 9 to 10 months, then use the old as a spare.
On bulbs and going back to HPS 600. The best screw end one I have found is the Indoor Sun Pro. These outperformed Hortilux. I've tried everything. Have almost 25k of Leds sitting in the shed.
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I've used those leds for 9 months and they are not as good. Also, I'm in constant communication with Gavita as we are currently setting up a multi-million dollar cbd grow facility and it's their opinion also that LEDs aren't as good. However LEDs time will come but not just yet. I have trialled Valoya, Fluence, and several others so I know what I'm talking about. There are 2 main issues, 1 being if using LEDs alone you need to add heating, this negates the lower cost of running them. But, then if you think of buying a bar fixture to use inside a tent with the driver attached and inside the tent you will get a heat problem. They say the lights don't emitt heat, but the drives do, So if in a tent you really need your driver outside. 2 The cost to set up the size we are doing isn't viable. Its a 10yr to 12yr payback on ROI (return on investment) Oh, i forgot there's a UV issue also. You must have UV bars or just add a hps/cmh.Or=
#5. New Led. The new leds available rn that will give you close to or better spectrum then the CMH (finally) while maintaining 2.1-2.6 umol/j. Those efficiency ratings are only measuring between 400-700nm. That provides the typical PPFD. When measuring the true spectrum you'll get a higher PBFD.
Representing the Normal par as well as what they call "The Beyond Par Region" (a term used to admit a mistake it sounds, lol!)
These New High-End (all in one true full spectrum with no need to supplement) Led fixtures are the best of both worlds I'd imagine. Still waiting on mine to arrive.
There's a few out there that know of:
1) Amare Bar-6 LUV. Canna-Spec + 385nm.
Canna-Spec spectrum includes x2 whites, 470, 630, 660 + 740nm to create a broad Horticultural spectrum.
On dual remote driver channels with dimmers allowing spectral blending & dimming between veg + flower modes.
-DIodes: 301H + Samsung SSL or optional SQ. LG- UVA.
-Foldable & detachable
-660w x 6 wide bars with protective coating over diodes.
-2.6 umol/j
-25% off Pre-Orders = $975 to your door.
This company is well known for its customer service + satisfaction, giving large discounts, helping our Veterans, ect... dont wanna sound Shilly. They creating the first Premium parts used & listed part #'s on the site, custom designed, enhanced white, Canna-Specific fixtures & was the first to state publicly they are designed to be used specifically for growing Cannabis when it was not publicly accepted .
Apache & Area51 opened the doors to enhanced white & Amare perfected it the best they could with the newest tech each yr., upgrading when possible.
New Website underway. No Bar-6 LUV on the sight yet. Basically this spectrum with a tiny bit less 450nm peak & the addition of 385nm. Providing 15% light outside the normal par region.View attachment 4515717
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Another one out now is From the SE bulb HPS leader company : Hortrilux
This is less efficient then the one above but also a nice all in one.
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Then there's these guys in which i support their work & admire their design. They have yet to incorporate UVA but do something the 2 listed above do not do. That is provide Near UV which in turn fills the lousy gap white leds have between 400-450nm as well as extend the red tail into the Near IR zone.
This has allowed increases bag appeal as well as up to a 20% increase in thc & other cannabinoids shown through testing. This approach is called using a BroadBand spectrum which creates a light closest to the sun (in one chip) by means of only x2 diode k-temps.
They started as members here on RIU.
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All x3 of these Led fixtures will eliminate the need to add a cmh, have 3-5 yr warranties, are HE, Reputable companies (Aussies are new but still very reputable)
These Full-Spectrum leds are a slightly higher upfront cost then CMH, allot more then SE-HPS but Would reduce your electrical needs by either 50% or close, reduce or eliminate the need for AC.
If you already own a CMH or bulb fixture & are looking to get started cheap then i would just add an led Bar to each side n be done until harvesting enough to buy a good led.
Hope this helps. Good Luck!
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Exactly my point. My job last yr was solely to test everything for our commercial setup. I've done the research and don't accept 90% of LED manufactures numbers.
What is the 10% you do except?
Tilray owned by a big pharma company? Looking at their website its what I imagine a big pharma operation looking like. I like knowing the weed I smoke has a story behind it rather than a warehouse with unhappy lab workers solely working there to collect a paycheck.
Was just mentioning TLRY as it may have a flow-through effect on other MM stocks that have been sold off the past two yrs. TLRY have a product they send here. cost $1400 per month. We can supply a better product for $150 per month.
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Dude, im sorry you did not find the benifits of leds over hps that i did. Its a shame because you were probably so close to unlocking the potential.I've used those leds for 9 months and they are not as good. Also, I'm in constant communication with Gavita as we are currently setting up a multi-million dollar cbd grow facility and it's their opinion also that LEDs aren't as good. However LEDs time will come but not just yet. I have trialled Valoya, Fluence, and several others so I know what I'm talking about. There are 2 main issues, 1 being if using LEDs alone you need to add heating, this negates the lower cost of running them. But, then if you think of buying a bar fixture to use inside a tent with the driver attached and inside the tent you will get a heat problem. They say the lights don't emitt heat, but the drives do, So if in a tent you really need your driver outside. 2 The cost to set up the size we are doing isn't viable. Its a 10yr to 12yr payback on ROI (return on investment) Oh, i forgot there's a UV issue also. You must have UV bars or just add a hps/cmh.
As for a small room hobby grower, they work ok and are worth playing around with. I have blended them, hps/led, cmh/led and a variety of other blends. The best blend for quantity, quality and low cost is without a doubt HPS/CMH blend.
Per square meter, it costs $100 using HPS/CMH and around $500 at least using LEDs. And what happens when your diodes die, burn out, driver burns out, it's a huge cost apposed to HPS/CMH where you can just replace the bulb or ballast.
If you are from Australia contact Wholesale Horticultural Group. They are real growers selling real products.
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Accent is average at best.
I'm not selling anything. Are you?
sure, i have a 1000w hps beside a 600w led
$1500 USD to do 4x4. get real. ok if you are a small hobby grower or using shareholders funds and don't give a fuck. We are self-financed and do give a fuck. It's not viable. Period.
At the end of the day. It it works for you, thats all that matters. Being a Hortilux product i would say they are pretty good, but the price kills it.
