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18six50

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Wow, that was fast! Big thanks to @Useful Seeds! I can't wait to free up some space.
Too cool for high school, lucky you! You know if you had just that right there, thirty years ago, you would have been a Pot God and you could have made millions. What an amazing gift in so many ways. Not that it's not still amazing today to get a gift like that, it is, it's just that nobody would have thought about giving away genetics that good back in the day, just no freaking way. They would have horded them completely for a commercial grow or charged 5 grand a pack. We are all a bunch of lucky cats if you think about it, things have come a long ways.
 

BobDylan'sBeard

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Been following this thread for a couple weeks. I'm still on my first grow but I ordered a pack of black jack x chocolate diesel fem and blueberry n oranges fem. Still on my first grow with 2x mars sp250 in a 4x4 tent. Cant wait to finish what I have going and start my useful seeds. :cool:
I think you'll dig the blueberries & oranges, got some in the jar for about 2 months. She still smells like chop day, orangey goodness and a strong mellow vibe. Happy grows!
 

DocofRock

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Ok ok, time to stop waiting to get my glam shots here and just give an update. 6x plants in the ground — 4 plants in 15gal living soil pots (with worms); I’m still trying to get the hang of keeping these moist without overwatering (I know, seedlings —> 15gal is a major up-potting, and because of that I’m gonna have to strike a fine balance for now), and 2 plants in 7gal pots — still using soil/organics here.

Seems like there was maybe 24 hours where they were really upset after transplant. They’re doing pretty good now, and I think once they get another week/two under their belts, I think they’ll be thriving. Temps aren’t as high as I’d like them, hanging around 72 F at canopy level. At any rate, they’ve been growing fast and seemed to really enjoy the AACT foliar yesterday. Living mulch is popping up, and worms were alive and kickin yesterday (try not to disturb the medium too much).

I wanted to wait til I had some picture-perfect plants to post an update, especially and I’m testing for Useful (Grape OG x CD), but I feel at day 20 from seed it’s time for a proper update. Here’s a few pics:


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Sorry, forgot to mention what was in the garden:

- 2x Grape OG x Chocolate Diesel testers(each in 15 gal).
- 2x DDS (1 in 15 gal 1 in 7 gal)
- 2x ‘91 Oranges (1 in 15 gal 1 in 7 gal).

Also, I couldn’t help but peek under the mulching a little — worms very active and prolific right underneath the mulch, as are the living mulch/cover crop seedlings.
 
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I think you'll dig the blueberries & oranges, got some in the jar for about 2 months. She still smells like chop day, orangey goodness and a strong mellow vibe. Happy grows!
What kind of high and taste? Tell me alittle more about how the grow went. Is it beginner friendly? Any recommendations or things you would do differently?
 

DocofRock

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What kind of high and taste? Tell me alittle more about how the grow went. Is it beginner friendly? Any recommendations or things you would do differently?
Not sure, but if Blueberries ‘n Oranges is Useful’s BBHP crossed with BOO, you’ll most likely have a winner. I loved my BBnC, it was very resilient and had potent smelling terps and was versatile (could use day or night). From what I’ve gathered, Bag of Oranges is a very popular and well-received Useful breed too.
 
Not sure, but if Blueberries ‘n Oranges is Useful’s BBHP crossed with BOO, you’ll most likely have a winner. I loved my BBnC, it was very resilient and had potent smelling terps and was versatile (could use day or night). From what I’ve gathered, Bag of Oranges is a very popular and well-received Useful breed too.
Yea its blue berry hashplant x bag of oranges. By the way I follow you on grow diaries, waiting on updates haha
 

DocofRock

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Yea its blue berry hashplant x bag of oranges. By the way I follow you on grow diaries, waiting on updates haha
Well I have no doubt you’re gonna enjoy the strain. My growdiaries profile has been so neglected recently I’m almost embarrassed. Useful’s thread has literally been the de facto diary for me over the last year, even when I have beans from another breeder. Useful is such a killer breeder and classy person that I refused to grow anything other than Useful genetics this current grow.

Once my girls get some real Veg growth going, I’ll definitely update here and on growdiaries for sure. I always just try to put good pics up so that I do justice to the genes; I try to edit out the bloopers so that I do quality breeders like Useful justice. I hate posting pics of grows when I know that MY errors and inexperience are the major negative impactors in my grow room. IME, Useful’s strains always stick it out through my abuse though, and will probably end up beautiful, potent, and smelly as always.
 

18six50

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Well I have no doubt you’re gonna enjoy the strain. My growdiaries profile has been so neglected recently I’m almost embarrassed. Useful’s thread has literally been the de facto diary for me over the last year, even when I have beans from another breeder. Useful is such a killer breeder and classy person that I refused to grow anything other than Useful genetics this current grow.

Once my girls get some real Veg growth going, I’ll definitely update here and on growdiaries for sure. I always just try to put good pics up so that I do justice to the genes; I try to edit out the bloopers so that I do quality breeders like Useful justice. I hate posting pics of grows when I know that MY errors and inexperience are the major negative impactors in my grow room. IME, Useful’s strains always stick it out through my abuse though, and will probably end up beautiful, potent, and smelly as always.
I dig it when people do diaries of neglected plants, half the time I end up neglecting mine for one reason or another, so a grow journal that's from neglected plants is probably going to look a lot like mine would anyway. And that way I can see which plants handle stress better too. I'm using the word "neglected" loosely, you know what I mean. Little things here and there that add up in ways we notice. I don't even really bother shooting for picture perfect anymore, I'm just happy that they crank out good bud and as long as I get 90% of what I could have got absolutely babying them I'm cool. And it's all good info for people to have. I'll check out your grow because I'm planning on buying some of his gear probably the 4/20 sale and it will be fun taking my time to pick out what looks like it will fit for me and my chucks too.
 

diggs99

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Grape OG x CD just taking off.
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She's had the purple stem and leaf vein thing going on since she was a sprout. I'm not seeing that in other's pics. I know I'm special, but is anybody else seeing that? LOL!
lol ya I seen it last crop. I had seen a few growers mention leds causing purple stems so I just assume that’s what it was.

it eventually went away , whatever it was lol
 

DocofRock

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lol ya I seen it last crop. I had seen a few growers mention leds causing purple stems so I just assume that’s what it was.

it eventually went away , whatever it was lol
There’s a lot of conjecture about powerful LED lights, lack of IR/UV, and VPD/temp range for COBs/QB’s from what I’ve seen. The main argument I’ve seen is that high-powered LED lights prevent optimal transpiration due to the lack of the “full spectrum” they emit, and therefore require higher ambient air temps to maintain optimal transpiration than HID/CMH lighting. Leaf surface temps are much lower than i’d like as well.
 

18six50

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There’s a lot of conjecture about powerful LED lights, lack of IR/UV, and VPD/temp range for COBs/QB’s from what I’ve seen. The main argument I’ve seen is that high-powered LED lights prevent optimal transpiration due to the lack of the “full spectrum” they emit, and therefore require higher ambient air temps to maintain optimal transpiration than HID/CMH lighting. Leaf surface temps are much lower than i’d like as well.
Interesting, I've seen that purple show up using florescent lighting in cold rooms before. This was back in the day. I'm talking about shop lights being used for veg, that kind of thing. So that makes sense to me, it would be approximately the same conditions. Lack of spectrum and cool leaf surfaces. Which would result in the plants working too hard to grow and giving themselves a deficiency in the process. Once they get a little bigger, get some roots down and fan leaves out and it goes away.
 

BobDylan'sBeard

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What kind of high and taste? Tell me alittle more about how the grow went. Is it beginner friendly? Any recommendations or things you would do differently?
I had one BB&O, next to one BOO. Each topped once. The BB&O grew like a haze, very friendly. The BOO influence was unmistakeable, so smells and taste sweet orange, maybe blossom-like, compared to BOO that is straight-up orange zest/oil. I would encourage topping once, she spreads nicely and took nutes no problems. Effects, nice laid-back harmony, not much lock on average use. Although hit her hard, she'll sit you down a bit ;-). I find myself grabbing BB&O a bit more than BOO during the daytime. Both are great. Hope that helps, hope you find a keeper. I only ran this one pheno, so far.
 
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