Scrog help

Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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I’m 8 days into 12/12 strain is indica dominant has only stretched 2-3 inches since I flipped the switch 8 days ago...... should I defoliate, tuck or get rid of some tops to thin the canopy out or just cut my losses and add an extra fan and light and get what I can? This is my first scrog so I’m extremely green but I think I over did it this go around with the number of tops I i allowed to grow through my scrog what do you guys think? Also my 5 gal bucket plant was topped 2x for 4 main tops no o get training was done should I leave her be or take off all the giant fan leaves to let more light threw? She was 13 inches before 12/12 now she’s 15 so she only grew 2 inches in 8 days so I don’t think she will stretch a lot
 

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xtsho

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Don't cut anything at this time. That second photo shows a decent SCROG. So many times people just throw some netting with 4 inch gaps over their plants and just let them grow. You've actually trained the plant properly. In two weeks it will look entirely different.

Patience Grasshopper

 
Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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Thx guys I appreciate your camaraderie ...... I was worried because my scrog net is literally a wire rack I saved from the scrap yard at work lol it’s also only 4 inches above the pot so I worried about air flow as well..... thx for the reassurance guys I was about to chop out 20-30% of the tops to make more room for others, one thing I will say is that I wish I gave myself more room under the screen becuase I literally have zero room to lollipop the bottom.....
 
Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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What kinda yeild should I expect? I’m useing 2 optic 1 xl lights iv seen people pull 200grams off one plant with just one of them and they only topped and lst I never seen anyone scrog with one so I’m excited to see what I will get I’ll be happy if I get 7 oz total but am hoping for 6-7 oz from the scrog and 3-4 from the Home Depot bucket is that realistic or am I delusional??? Breeder rates this strain at 14oz per 3x3 canopy indoors it’s currently 2.5x2.25 it’s not as big as they would recommend but I doubt their canopy was as dense as mine so I hope that helps me clear the gap cheers thx guys
 
Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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I thought scrog meant throwing a net over your plants and weaving tucking and training for a even canopy? It’s not as even as I’d like but for my first grow I’m happy with it... not trying to be difficult so please don’t think that, how can I improve my next go around , thx
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Hydrotech364 said:
Almost never see a proper scrog anymore. The plant looks great but it's not scrogged, just a plant growing through a net....
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It's more scroggy than most of what people post. At least it's one plant spread out and not five plants growing straight up through some 4" netting. While it might not be a perfect SCROG it's better than most of what's out there these days. Many people just throw a net up over some plants because they saw a net in some photo or youtube video.

I'm going to say that this IS a proper SCROG. Could it be better? Maybe. But there is no doubt that this is a SCROG.
 
Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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Thx bro..... that’s only 4 branches on that sum bitch kitten snuck in and ate the top half only thing left was bottom 2 branches no more vertical Growth after 3rd week veg
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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Buddernugs said:
I was about to chop out 20-30% of the tops to make more room for others,
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You've commented about cutting tops several times. You top once and two new ones grow...correct but topping should have been done earlier. What you are doing now is lst and some defoliation.

I've observed indica scrogs get so bunched up with leaves...you coud hardly see the buds. Hybrids or sativas make better scrogs. DrAmbertrichomes did a NL scrog recently and started out looking like yours. It's a long chatty thread but look somewhere around the middle for harvest pix

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Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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I’ll look into that right meow thank you... by cupping tops I meant branches sorry should have been more specific last thing I want right now is more tops to deal with
 
Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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Damn that was a hell of a harvest that guy had xrazy how a a canopy that thick can produce bud like that
 
BluntMoniker

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www.growweedeasy.com

Complete Cannabis Flowering Stage Defoliation Tutorial | Grow Weed Easy

by Nebula Haze Introduction to Bud-Based Defoliation What is cannabis defoliation, and why/how does removing leaves from a cannabis plant increase yields?
www.growweedeasy.com www.growweedeasy.com

I defoliate using Nebula's method above...

-Lollipop athe bottom 1/3-1/2 of the plant a week before 12/12,
-Defoliate (fairly extreme defoliation) the day before 12/12,
-Defoliate again (fairly heavy again) around week 2-3
-And then only removing leaves extremely selectively when they are blocking bud sites. Sometimes ill only clip off single blades of leaves if need be, although at this point, if you can, tucking is preferred.

Not only does it help allow airflow/circulation in and around the canopy, but this method helps lower bud sites receive much more light than they would have otherwise gotten, giving denser nugs/bigger yields.

But some people prefer not to do ANY defoliation at all, seed to harvest. So like almost anything else in pot, its kind of up to your discretion/opinion:lol:
 
JohnDee

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BluntMoniker said:
www.growweedeasy.com

Complete Cannabis Flowering Stage Defoliation Tutorial | Grow Weed Easy

by Nebula Haze Introduction to Bud-Based Defoliation What is cannabis defoliation, and why/how does removing leaves from a cannabis plant increase yields?
www.growweedeasy.com www.growweedeasy.com

I defoliate using Nebula's method above...

-Lollipop athe bottom 1/3-1/2 of the plant a week before 12/12,
-Defoliate (fairly extreme defoliation) the day before 12/12,
-Defoliate again (fairly heavy again) around week 2-3
-And then only removing leaves extremely selectively when they are blocking bud sites. Sometimes ill only clip off single blades of leaves if need be, although at this point, if you can, tucking is preferred.

Not only does it help allow airflow/circulation in and around the canopy, but this method helps lower bud sites receive much more light than they would have otherwise gotten, giving denser nugs/bigger yields.

But some people prefer not to do ANY defoliation at all, seed to harvest. So like almost anything else in pot, its kind of up to your discretion/opinion:lol:
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I like his training methods...just don't listen to his theories. None of them hold water.

"t's possible the plant focuses on bud sites during the initial part of flowering because it simply doesn't have leaves to put energy into" I mean doesn't the plant draw energy from leaves...not the other way around?

He cites cotton as a plant that uses defoliation to increase harvest. Wrong...they use a chemical defoliant before harvest...to make harvest easier. A chemical pre-trim.

And so on. Good grower though.
JD
 
Buddernugs

Buddernugs

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Ok so next week or two I should remove all fan leaves the size of a half dollar or bigger? I can lollipop the bottom I have no room the screen is only 4” above the pot and the branches are to thick to work around iv some what I could but this is all I could manage unfortunately
 

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