The Impeachment Of Donald Trump

Fogdog

Fogdog

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kgp said:
Huh?
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It was pretty well checked out. No evidence of rigging. In fact the whole premise that the primary was rigged for Clinton is founded on racism. As in:

20% African American Democratic Party voters voted for Bernie
30% Hispanic American Democratic Party voters voted for Bernie
45% white women Democratic Party voters voted for Bernie
60% White men who voted in the Democratic primary voted for Bernie.

In case you didn't notice, only white men gave Bernie the majority of the vote. A candidate cannot win without better support from other groups in the Democratic party. Bernie's campaign was all but dead by the middle of April because he completely flopped with the black vote in the south.

You say "rigged". There is no evidence of "rigged" but you say it was. Explain why the asymmetry in the effect of nefarious "rigged" actions taken by the DNC. I mean, one debate question was leaked about Flint's water crisis according to wikileaks, an unsubstantiated source for information. That must have been one loaded question (actually it's pretty obvious that a question regarding Flint's water crisis would be asked). As shown above in the overall results from exit polls for the primaries, your claim of "rigged" hinges on white men being able to see through the ruse while black people were fooled en masse. Is this your stance?

The counter hypothesis makes more sense. Again, there is no evidence of rigging. Bernie simply could not convince Black voters, Hispanic voters and women that he was the best candidate for them.

Your argument falls apart based upon the facts. Suck it up, buttercup. Bernie is seen as a great leader only by white men who apparently don't care if he has achieved nothing of significance as a Senator.

Then you voted for Trump. disgusting.
 
kgp

kgp

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Fogdog said:
It was pretty well checked out. No evidence of rigging. In fact the whole premise that the primary was rigged for Clinton is founded on racism. As in:

20% African American Democratic Party voters voted for Bernie
30% Hispanic American Democratic Party voters voted for Bernie
45% white women Democratic Party voters voted for Bernie
60% White men who voted in the Democratic primary voted for Bernie.

In case you didn't notice, only white men gave Bernie the majority of the vote. A candidate cannot win without better support from other groups in the Democratic party. Bernie's campaign was all but dead by the middle of April because he completely flopped with the black vote in the south.

You say "rigged". There is no evidence of "rigged" but you say it was. Explain why the asymmetry in the effect of nefarious "rigged" actions taken by the DNC. I mean, one debate question was leaked about Flint's water crisis according to wikileaks, an unsubstantiated source for information. That must have been one loaded question (actually it's pretty obvious that a question regarding Flint's water crisis would be asked). As shown above in the overall post election polling results for the primaries, your claim of "rigged" hinges on white men being able to see through the ruse while black people were fooled en masse. I suppose

The counter hypothesis makes more sense. Again, there is no evidence of rigging. Bernie simply could not convince Black voters, Hispanic voters and women that he was the best candidate for them.

Your argument falls apart based upon the facts. Suck it up, buttercup. Bernie is seen as a great leader only by white men who apparently don't care if he has achieved nothing of significance as a Senator.
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Brazile admitted to it. She gave Clinton the questions. Bidens campaign says his son and Ukraine are not to be mentioned in the debates. Come on man..
 
kgp

kgp

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Its 5 o'clock somewhere and it happens to be here too. Im leaving work and going to have a great weekend. Hope you all do the same.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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kgp said:
Huh?
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So I start in 2008, Remember the "Obama is a Muslim" stuff, then Birth certificate conspiracy (started by Trump). Online Racists were really pushing anti Obama propaganda hard, and the evangelicals where going hard against LGBTQ/ anti-abortion propaganda.

When the Great Recession hit, people lost their minds, Tea Party stuff rose up and the Racist/Religious used this to put Republicans in power using the 'anti' vote. In 2013 Snowden landed in Russia with the NSA programming and a few months later Russia is sending people to the USA to figure out how best to tap into the American voters worst feelings and use them to pick fights between voting groups using news of the day that particular stories are used to highlight these very real deficiencies in our society.

So as people start to buy into their propaganda and watch their news sources that will never/very rarely tell stories that go against the narrative, they place themselves into a very nice feedback loop. Now that Trump is president, he can say anything he wants and it becomes news. Then to top it off, he says that everyone lies, and the news is all fake, and don't trust what you see and hear because the truth isn't the truth.

But he is a proven liar, and has all of his minions lie in the name of POTUS because it is ok to lie to the public if they are not under oath and held accountable by the law. But that is the problem, basing anything off of what liars say is meaningless because they are liars.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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kgp said:
Brazile admitted to it. She gave Clinton the questions. Bidens campaign says his son and Ukraine are not to be mentioned in the debates. Come on man..
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I never said Brazille didn't leak the question. I question your conclusion that Bernie lost because of it. Explain why an obvious question about a current crisis in Flint would cause the vast majority of women, black and Hispanic voters to be fooled into voting for Clinton. Bernie is some kind of weak sauce if that's all it takes for 70% of black people to vote for somebody else.

That is the basis of your argument. So, defend it.
 
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Glovelove

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hanimmal said:
So I start in 2008, Remember the "Obama is a Muslim" stuff, then Birth certificate conspiracy (started by Trump). Online Racists were really pushing anti Obama propaganda hard, and the evangelicals where going hard against LGBTQ/ anti-abortion propaganda.

When the Great Recession hit, people lost their minds, Tea Party stuff rose up and the Racist/Religious used this to put Republicans in power using the 'anti' vote. In 2013 Snowden landed in Russia with the NSA programming and a few months later Russia is sending people to the USA to figure out how best to tap into the American voters worst feelings and use them to pick fights between voting groups using news of the day that particular stories are used to highlight these very real deficiencies in our society.

So as people start to buy into their propaganda and watch their news sources that will never/very rarely tell stories that go against the narrative, they place themselves into a very nice feedback loop. Now that Trump is president, he can say anything he wants and it becomes news. Then to top it off, he says that everyone lies, and the news is all fake, and don't trust what you see and hear because the truth isn't the truth.

But he is a proven liar, and has all of his minions lie in the name of POTUS because it is ok to lie to the public if they are not under oath and held accountable by the law. But that is the problem, basing anything off of what liars say is meaningless because they are liars.
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So dont listen to CNN or listen to CNN, I'm confused by this whole post. Kinda went full circle on the lies lol.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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kgp said:
Please don't generalize me by the few posts you've read. I'm a real person with many stories just like you.

My point was that all hate groups are wrong.

Just like uncle buck is triggered and hates me. Why is it okay for him to hate me? "hate is wrong and I hate anyone who hates" See how stupid that sounds?
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And that mask represents the epitome of hate ...do you have the ability to look in the mirror?
 
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