Cloning by leaf ..

kbo ca

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Nobody has done this with cannabis, at least that I'm aware of...
high times did an article on it not too long ago. It has been done plenty, it just takes too long. i think it's more for novelty purposes or to save a strain that can no longer be cloned for whatever reason.
 

Rj41

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ever heard of cloning from leaf cultures? Just enough plant material to get the dna from the live plant can make a new plant. It takes way too much time to do, but it's kinda cool. You can get a plant to grow from just a leaf, or even less.
***LIKE***

I saw a program on Discovery, or Science Channel all about growing through leaf cutures. Pretty interesting stuff.
 

Wolverine97

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high times did an article on it not too long ago. It has been done plenty, it just takes too long. i think it's more for novelty purposes or to save a strain that can no longer be cloned for whatever reason.
If it was about actual "leaf culture" with cannabis then I guess I must've missed it. I've seen plenty of HT articles on tissue culture, and how it's the "future" for what we do but I've never actually seen proof of anyone successfully completing the cycle with cannabis. Got a link?
 

kbo ca

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If it was about actual "leaf culture" with cannabis then I guess I must've missed it. I've seen plenty of HT articles on tissue culture, and how it's the "future" for what we do but I've never actually seen proof of anyone successfully completing the cycle with cannabis. Got a link?
google.com hahaha I have the article, but no link. i'm sure you can find it with a little looking. I don't think it's going to serve any real purpose, besides keeping a strain around that is near extinction.
 

Rj41

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On the program I saw, thew talked about doing it when there's only a limited amount of material to work with but many new plants desired.
They took a leaf and cut it into I think 16 smaller pieces, then grew them all out.
You can also do it with a very immature plant.
 

Total Head

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assuming a leaf can be rooted but not produce new growth, what do you all suppose would happen if someone tried to root one of those fan leaves that has a bud growing out of it?



(i got this pic off google images but it appears to have originated from this site)

has anyone ever cloned one of these leaves?
 

kbo ca

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assuming a leaf can be rooted but not produce new growth, what do you all suppose would happen if someone tried to root one of those fan leaves that has a bud growing out of it?



(i got this pic off google images but it appears to have originated from this site)

has anyone ever cloned one of these leaves?
I've had this happen, but have never spent time trying to clone one. I have a strong suspicion that the cutting would generate new growth.
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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Cmon people! Read the first 2 pages of this thread. People even posted PICTURES of MJ leaves with roots. And that's exactly what you'll get! Anyone still contemplating this needs to read a few posts to come to the same conclusion all the intelligent posters already did. You get leaves with roots but not a full blown plant with far too much work. These 2 posts sum it all up.

You *could* get a fan leaf to sprout some roots...but it will not amount to anything useful. In all my years of growing and botany I have also never seen ANY tree leaf that sprouted roots and grew into a tree. Of course I wasn't there to watch the whole time, but science says it ain't happening, sorry. If you Google search this topic, it has been beat into the ground and the consensus was always the same- a no-go.
+rep for thinking about it anyways... that's where all discoveries first come from.
Your book is correct that plants can be cloned via a single leaf ,problem is that if you try to clone a fan leaf from a mj plant all you will get is a nicely rooted fan leaf that wont grow out into a full plant.

Plants with complex structures like a node on a mj plant do not contain the cell structure needed to replicate itself within the leaf matter.

The cells needed to grow out a full plant are locked within the vein of the leaf,cloning a mj plant via a fan leaf is possible but not in a classic sense,the leaf needs to lay flat on top the medium & needs to root from the veins of the leaf instead of the leaf stalk.
Then what you get is a goofy ass looking lump of roots that if you can keep alive long enough will shoot up little sprouts that resemble a mj seedling.

A botanist who is a member here talked a few members & myself into trying it a few years back,we were experimenting with different growth hormones when he suggested the fan leaf deal ,we spent an entire year fukin round with fan leaf cloning & found out its a bitch to pull off,after about 6 months & dozens of failures I got a few leaves to root via the veins ,but only 1 took hold & grew a root mass,i never did get a plant to pop out of the root mass,i forgot to adjust the temp in the incunator & the root mass molded over,i was all kinda pissed & gave up.

Its possible but the cloning process dosent even remotely resemble just sticking a leaf stalk in hormones & your off n running,its alot of precise work involving incubators,total sterile medium & growth chambers as well as sterile hormones,its just too much work when standard cloning techniques are so simple with extremely high success rates.

Dont waste your time unless your into the science behind it all.
 

teoborg

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You can actually clone a leaf but not a cannabis plant. That works with cacti and plants like cacti.
 

thump easy

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I have seen clips of other plants that you take a leaf tisue culture and put it in incubation but i tried it it takes fucking months success is slim to non you need a real clean envirment for every dust partical you see in a dark room wen light from outside beems in they say each dust partical has 100 diffrent spores on it.. so you need a hepa filterd room and a hepa cabnit i havent had success i spent about a thousand dollars i should have just bout a fucken butane chamber instead.. i havent seen it done with leaf though but it seas it could be done.. all i know is their are two chemicals you can induce into the agar and i hear the fucken tree trucks are no fucking joke that was from a collage professor in the bay area.. he charges just to talk i had no credit card!!!..
 

ØVER_MCVS

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So as you guys can see .. i’m new here I happened to run into your thread in 2012 you guys were all talking about cloning families whats 2019 and I like to tell you guys that it is possible I’ve actually seen it and I’m actually doing it as we speak my profile picture is a current picture I sent image so hopefully you guys can see that I’ll send more and I just wanted to be in the mix because it’s getting me excited to think everybody here is also wondering my name is OVER by the way guys and this is my second you’re growing and when I was 21 and I grew 12 plants and they all did amazing outside and there was a big yield this time All I did was cut the family from the plant cut the stock a bit put it in a pot of soil outside no gel no hormone growth and it’s been surviving it’s been alive it’s been drinking water he hasn’t died so that goes to show you that you can do it it’s just gonna take some time​
 

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waterproof808

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So as you guys can see .. i’m new here I happened to run into your thread in 2012 you guys were all talking about cloning families whats 2019 and I like to tell you guys that it is possible I’ve actually seen it and I’m actually doing it as we speak my profile picture is a current picture I sent image so hopefully you guys can see that I’ll send more and I just wanted to be in the mix because it’s getting me excited to think everybody here is also wondering my name is OVER by the way guys and this is my second you’re growing and when I was 21 and I grew 12 plants and they all did amazing outside and there was a big yield this time All I did was cut the family from the plant cut the stock a bit put it in a pot of soil outside no gel no hormone growth and it’s been surviving it’s been alive it’s been drinking water he hasn’t died so that goes to show you that you can do it it’s just gonna take some time​
I dont understand why you are wasting time with this. You will not get a full plant to grow out of a rooted fan leaf.
 

JayBio420

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Tissue culture works for cannabis and many other plants.

You basically use a sanitary Method, excise a piece of plant from a growth tip and use a semi-sterilizing method. Often alcohol and bleach. Cut it into many bits with a scalpel.. These bits go into test tubes filled with a tissue culture media. These tubes are sterilized before you add the tissue.

In a sterile room with a flow hood or glovebox, you add each tiny piece to the top of the media tube. These are incubated until a tissue cluster starts to form, at which point each piece of this semi-differentiated tissue can be cut and rooted, and the shoots cloned.

The benefit of this is a few growth tips can make you hundreds or thousands of clones. Works best in a lab.
 

rob333

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Hi there growers . I'm reading a little booklet thing on cuttings ect . It says u can clone a plant via a leaf .?? Has any one done this .? And what's the %ratio if any one has ? Thanx
never done it but i may think it could work not saying it would but may lol i do no when i run a high rate of humic and flavic i get buds comming out the center of fan leaves nothing big but it still buds
 

xtsho

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So as you guys can see .. i’m new here I happened to run into your thread in 2012 you guys were all talking about cloning families whats 2019 and I like to tell you guys that it is possible I’ve actually seen it and I’m actually doing it as we speak my profile picture is a current picture I sent image so hopefully you guys can see that I’ll send more and I just wanted to be in the mix because it’s getting me excited to think everybody here is also wondering my name is OVER by the way guys and this is my second you’re growing and when I was 21 and I grew 12 plants and they all did amazing outside and there was a big yield this time All I did was cut the family from the plant cut the stock a bit put it in a pot of soil outside no gel no hormone growth and it’s been surviving it’s been alive it’s been drinking water he hasn’t died so that goes to show you that you can do it it’s just gonna take some time​

Roots? All that I see is a leaf stuck into some soil. And even if it is rooted then what next?
 

SickboyDilligaf

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I always thought you needed some "new growth" to continue to grow once the clone roots.
IMO I feel like trying to clone from a single fan leaf would be a waste of time, even if it roots I dont see where the growth would come from

Ive been taking cuts and have a 100% success rate
I just take the cut from the main stem
at a 45 degree angle dip in rooting gel
And mist the dome 3 times a day

Usually have roots in 8-10 days (no fancy cloners just a dome and spray bottle)

These should be rooting in the next 2 - 4 days



If anybody clones from just a fan leaf I'm interested to see it

But imo I think the regular way of taking clones would be more efficient.
What medium do you use ??? I’m waiting for my clone chamber so trying in soil with a diy set up.
 
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