Old school genetics, afghanis and indica

psychadelibud

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Who is producing the best old school strains, specifically afghani crosses with some old school stench. Already have a few orders from Dominion, I know Duke focuses on old school genetics quiet often.

I am looking for those fast outdoor squat stanky garlic, onion, sweet dirty feet, skunk, hash earth indicas. Back in the day, actually in the early 2ks, a few of us went in together and had great luck with a large sensi seed order, they have tons of afghani and skunk crosses. How are they today? Still producing the good stuff they did back in the day? Also, thinking about trying out that shiva shanti again, we seen tons of garlic bud phenos come out of that one.

I wanna go old school in my guerilla run this year, need all the info I can possibly get. Yes I have been doing my own research as well but i want your opinions too..

Go..
 

The Mantis

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Who is producing the best old school strains, specifically afghani crosses with some old school stench. Already have a few orders from Dominion, I know Duke focuses on old school genetics quiet often.

I am looking for those fast outdoor squat stanky garlic, onion, sweet dirty feet, skunk, hash earth indicas. Back in the day, actually in the early 2ks, a few of us went in together and had great luck with a large sensi seed order, they have tons of afghani and skunk crosses. How are they today? Still producing the good stuff they did back in the day? Also, thinking about trying out that shiva shanti again, we seen tons of garlic bud phenos come out of that one.

I wanna go old school in my guerilla run this year, need all the info I can possibly get. Yes I have been doing my own research as well but i want your opinions too..

Go..
Hey bud I'm f2ing these right now. Easy plants to grow. Produce small rock hard nugs that smell like you're following a little too close to a dumptruck. PM me if you would like to try some out.

Also, Sannies has USC gear with some old stuff including a black Afghan line.

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dubekoms

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I just ordered some nirvana strains for same reasons, tired of all the hype strains of today's ig generation. Plus a bit of nostalgia but Im hoping to find some different terp factories than cookies or chem or berry strains.
One of my first grows was with their aurora indica and white widow. Very solid potent strains imo and easy to grow. The deer really seemed to enjoyed the white widow :cuss:
 

psychadelibud

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Awesome, got some nice replies going fellas...

Yeah, I think I will mark sensi off the radar for now. I have heard bad stuff about them for the last few years, I guess they might have screwed up their breeding program, they used to have fire back in the day. Sensi is where I found my old NL#5 pheno in only one pack of beans back in 2013.

I think I am gonna run a few of Docs Iranian Auto Flowers this year. I hear they are amazing plants, good resistance, fast flowering of course with a hard hitting stone. I've heard the bad too... May also do some IAF x g13 or IAF x og's too...

I hear that World of Seeds and positronics have some nice afghani and Afghan skunks. "SAD" (black domina s1's) look good too. I have heard a few good things about Barney farms Shiskaberry too.. Sensi Star is also on my list. Wish I could find a good legit source for the Shiska, if barney is not it. Also gonna run a few cheese strains as well, sweet seeds sweet cheese is supposed to be really good.

Jalalabad Star is also on my list, I hear it is wicked! Then I have Black Afghani and then some dominion Granny Skunks in mind.

I see that nature farms had a Pakistani landrace cross that is supposed to be fire. I ran some of his Skunk 18s last year and all I can say is I think the whole roadkill terps being in the 18s is a fluke... I ran tons and got nothing of that nature.

However I got a pack of his Hindu Pakistani Kush and it was legit, some really strong skunky hashey coffee notes going on in that one.

Damn I wish the afghanis we had here in the bluegrass back around 2012 was still available... One line produced everything from sweet skunky gym socks, with a hint of maple syrup, to garlic, body odor and armpits/rich dirt and mothballs all the way to blueberry, incense, lemony hash burnt rubber funk. Jesus I have been looking for an Afghan line close to this ever since that grow i did back in 2012 and cannot find it! The guy that brought the seed in is dead and gone now and he just an old country fellar and farmer and always just called it afghani indica from Afghanistan lol.

I wanna find something like that again, would give my left nut to be honest...
 

psychadelibud

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I have 4 packs of sugar punch on the way too... Definitely not an afghani but it is one I would never go without in an indoor nor outdoor garden. Some of the best smoke I have ever had in my life...

Anyone ran the Black Afghani from USC? I hear its rank... I am interested hearing the odor profiles yall are getting out of these afghanis you are growing too, that will lead me to what I am looking for more than anything.

And ANYONE that knows an Afghan or indica line that produces any of the odors mentioned in my last post please please let me know... The Sour gym sock, dirty feet with a sick sweet/skunky underlying odor... All I remember about that one in particular, is if you look at Dr. Greenthumbs Iranian Auto flower it looked identical to it. Short, squat, bushy, long baby arm buds, pale in color with a lotta leaf on the buds that finished around the end of August. The closer they got to finish, the more pale and yellow they all looked. I cloned that specific plant and every clone I had of it had those yellowing like traits. Very nutrient sensitive, but jesus the odor and the stone was to die for! It hit you instantly in the head and eyes with unmatched euphoria from today's strains and then eventually settled into a heavy indica stone.

If anyone has experience with this IAF or its crosses I am very interested. What I had very well could have been just that, then I start thinking it could have been cheese too... Fuck if I know lol. It's one of those strains you just cant ever get out of your head that you beat yourself up for not keeping clones of it. :wall:
 

psychadelibud

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While I'm thinking about it, Willy's Wonder aka William's Wonder sounds good too. That is another old school one that I loved. Anyone know who's working with it?
 

getogrow

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i with you bud , i want some new shit thats ols school. i need the skunkyest they have ....the one that your carbon filter looks at and cries. i used to run a 100lb carbon filter and it only lasted 6 months , now i use a girl scrubber and you smell nothing ....the weed is bunk. imo
 

psychadelibud

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i with you bud , i want some new shit thats ols school. i need the skunkyest they have ....the one that your carbon filter looks at and cries. i used to run a 100lb carbon filter and it only lasted 6 months , now i use a girl scrubber and you smell nothing ....the weed is bunk. imo
I am good on the roadkill terps, luckily we have the old KY RKS here. It is getting very scarce and it is not "all over the bluegrass state and North Eastern TN" like it once was. The same old commercial growers around today are mostly the same ones that were growing, back in the day. No one really fools with it much anymore due to newer hybrids and other flavors that folks around here are after, it is not seeked out when you actually have it locally as it is when ya don't. Yes, we are actually used to that flavor. But it started dying away from the commercial outdoor scene around 2012, most people honestly stopped growing it due to its extreme odor, it was/is a LEO magnet 100%... There is absolutely no carbon filter on the planet to contain the pungency it releases, completely. The last 2 weeks of flower, Jesus... it reeks like you would never believe!

Funny thing is lol.... Now that all the people got the newer, tasty, trendy hype type hybrids, guess what? I am hearing more and more people around here wishing it was abundant like it once was. But here's the thing... I personally know ONE old school commercial grower (not so much anymore though due to poor health), that still has the cuts and the beans... Those who chose to grow it indoors back in the day, knew right off the bat they were risking their freedom, it was like playing Russian roulette. You either won, or you lost and your chances were always low unless you had a very secluded, sophisticated setup. This old man never grew it indoors, he does house his cuttings and mothers indoors, he played it smart, but he supplied a lot of those who did run indoor ops with it. Point is, very few people still have it currently and the only time you will ever really see it is after outdoor harvest season (between November and Feburary). I was never one of those people that got tired of the Skunk, I had been enthused with it ever since started getting into growing as a teenager 18 years ago. Its absolutely my favorite strain and always will hold a special place in my heart. The stone is to die for, heavy punch right in the face and eyes, you can actually feel it crawl and tingle down the neck and into the back and chest... Very uplifting but chink eye punch, that will get your eyes redder than any other strain on the planet. The taste is like the smell, straight fleshy skunk spray that will sting your nose and burn the eyes...

It had always been more of an outdoor runner around here, it is suited perfectly for the outdoors, however it does not finish too early. I have actually ran it into the first week in October. Resistance to mold is excellent, insects do not care for it either. Hollow stems and stalks yet very hardy on the outside of the stems. Really tough plants that can take a damn beating...

One thing I would like to note, is that I see a lot of people on search of a roadkill pheno looking for skunk on a stem rub... Honestly the roadkill skunk we have does not have that skunk spray smell on a stem rub. So maybe so many people should not call a seed hunt off due to that. It actually has a kinda spicy, fruity, light skunky citric type stem run nose hit. But it's funny because there is absolutely ZERO citrus odor in the flower, no sweetness period. It's exactly what you would think roadkill skunk smells like. Actually it's more like just straight skunk spray... Exactly like you are driving down the backroads on a hot humid summer night and you drive through a skunk orgy. Lol. For real it's like getting sprayed right in the face by a skunk, don't ever doubt it.

I have heard a few people around here say they can sorta pick up a burning wire type smell in the background, but its roadkill 100%. I would love to continue explaining it but this is not a road kill thread and i most definitely do not want it to turn into one... There is thread started a while back by me called "The future holds bright light", that's where we can talk roadkill. Tells the story as well why my skunk project got all fucked up and I am having to restart with it. I have not even got the seeds back yet, hoping by the end of this month I'll have them again. But it will be soon.




Now, onto the old school strains and old afghanis...

Does anyone know where I can find the old school Four Way? That was a killer we ran around here back in late 90s/early 2ks. Amazing producer and killed it outdoors.

And what about this place linked through the Reeferman seeds site? Called "Old School Breeders Association " OSBA I believe is what it's called. Is reeferman legit? Don't know much about him but offers very nice landrace and crosses on his old school selections.
 

getogrow

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thin mint is around week 7 of flip and at first i thought i was onto something but now thats its close to finishing , its more like skunky bubble gum.....has potential but not what were looking for. i'll keep you posted on gods gift, life after, hogs breath , tsi fly , diesel dog and east coast alien.

kandy kush (certain pheno?) is by far the best i ever had or smelled when it comes to our skunks. joint in a cigg pack will RUIN a whole store :bigjoint:

edit: old afgani's is what i call "skunk"
 

psychadelibud

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I do have a ton of testers a friend of mine in IC sent me a couple months ago. A bunch of Tom Hills deep chunk, monkey balls, pre 98, and several other afghani crosses. I thought technically Deep chunk and monkey balls are the same strain but they were both labeled differently...:?

Anyone have experience with Toms DC or MB? Does it do well outdoors? What kinda odors does she throw?
 

psychadelibud

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thin mint is around week 7 of flip and at first i thought i was onto something but now thats its close to finishing , its more like skunky bubble gum.....has potential but not what were looking for. i'll keep you posted on gods gift, life after, hogs breath , tsi fly , diesel dog and east coast alien.

kandy kush (certain pheno?) is by far the best i ever had or smelled when it comes to our skunks. joint in a cigg pack will RUIN a whole store :bigjoint:

edit: old afgani's is what i call "skunk"

Sounds like a nice lineup you got there! Have grown the thin mints clone out before, great smoke but not old school...

I am smoking on a nice Pioneer Kush pure bubba 98 pheno that I harvested some samples from a few days ago... its fire, frosty as hell and a heavy indica punch. It's like an indica with no ceiling, the more you smoke, the heavier it gets... till you forget you fell asleep when you wake up lol. Hash earth with slight coffee and wood notes.
 

psychadelibud

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Here is a nice description of Nature Farms PH...

Pakistani Heirloom

"This is an old kept and acclimated Pakistani line out of northern California gifted to me by my father. They do carry an Afghani edge to them being collected right at the northern border. Original collection from right below Khyber Pass, Northern Pakistan late 1980s, and kept out of region since.

These genetics have Only been grown outdoors for years and are a kept outdoor line. I wanted to change that so This was the first time they have seen artificial light. I selected for plants that showed zero stress and high tolerance to the indoor environment. Not only that, they thrive in it.

From 45, we selected down to 4 amazing females and 1 stud male. The male has an old school horseradish/hot mustard sour stench coupled with loud dank linoluem funk exudes off him. He is also more on the sativa spectrum with a later flower window which is where my father says the more traditional Pakistani heritage lies.
Females carry smells range from Industrial chemical, new linoluem roll, new carpet musk, adhesive glue, old world spices, Tart Sour Melon, to an almost meat funk kush over linoluem all with a pine wood style backing. They are also referred to as ‘Blue Pakis’ by those older than myself.

Extreme lime green coloration to the flowers, the more sativa carry a darker resin where the others are more of a grey tacky resin cakes the hands quick. The flower is extremely unique and stands out against most anything, some do carry a golden cure.

The effect is extremely Cerebral and potent, to a narcotic cerebral in the more Afghan. Most are extremely energetic and motivational with a clean introspective effect.

They hold extreme vigor and resistance to pest, mold, mildew. Many are Hash and extract style plants, the more forward facing sativa are sieve style plants with a drier resin, a later bloom and a looser flower set. They all dump resins and should make great plants to select in for extractors.

Flower times will range from 10to12 weeks with your occasional fast finisher, outdoors they finish the very start of October into November for some. Yield is above average, quality is above average. Drug trait cultivar, low to no CBD."
 
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