Brettman
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The plant the “nanners” are on is only in week 4-5. Will it make any bud if I keep growing it ?
OldMedUser
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It's going to make bud regardless but if any 'nanners have popped and released pollen then it could have small, immature seeds by the time it's ready for harvest. A few seeds won't hurt but if a lot of flowers get pollinated it will impact your potency and yield.
My last grow got fairly heavily pollinated because I was sloppy with pollen so each of my plants produced around 200+ seeds. I used pollen from a BlueBerry male to dust a few buds on a lower branch of each plant so have BB x AK47, BB x Critical Mass, BB x OG#18 and BB x BB. From clones I am at 6 weeks flowering the Critical Mass and AK47 and a couple of hi-CBD plants. No seeds this time so already have bigger buds and lots more trichomes at 6 weeks than I had at 9 weeks with the seeds. I got my dates mixed up and thought I was at 51 days but checked my pics out and realized I'm only at 41 days so better give them one more feed of Big Bud etc then go to straight water to the finish.
With at least 3 weeks to go on the Critical Mass I should get a decent yield of full-strength pot off these ones. The branches of all the plants are mixed up with each other on that 4x4' screen. The CM were about 4' tall when I decided to bend them all into a ScroG formation. Once these are cropped I want to nuke the room and repaint. It was a cold-storage room when I bought the house and full of shelves I ripped out. The old guy must have built all the shelving then used the paint gun to spray everything so when I took out the shelving I got left with all those stripes on the walls. That was 16 years ago so probably time for a fresh coat of paint.
The OG#18 always had a few 'nanners on it's lower branches that would show up around week 3 or 4 and I'd find a few from upper buds during trimming but it never produced any seeds so the pollen mustn't have been potent which is sometimes the case. I got a few clones of it from a buddy that grows mothers only and makes clones for commercial growers. I grew them out 3 times. Nice pot but I didn't get clones the last time so all I have of it is crossed now with the BB. The current plants have some mites so I'm not keeping any of them so I can finally get rid of the bugs and starting everything anew from seeds. Should have planted something months ago but have been having a shitty time with depression and have let things slide.
The OG was about the prettiest plant I've ever grown so will be looking for colours like these when I grow some of the BB crosses.
waxman420
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If you veg your plants big you can do a 3 light system with 4 plants 2x1000w 4x4's and 1 600w 5x5 . Always take cuttings up to 1 week of 12/12. Take 1 plant flower her. As soon as its hanging, flower your next biggest it will be 3 or 4 months old and take up a 4x4 tent. Then take 1 branch and root it to replace your plant that is now in jars.
Now you have 2 monsters vegging and 1 flowering plus the 1 cutting.
if you want to harvest every 4 weeks stagger t
Buy the time you have to flower the stem you took off plant #2 it will be 12-16 weeks old.
This will easily provide enough for 2 people.
Or outdoor grow start 4 plants december/jan by may- June they will be huge put outside scrog and chain link fortress easily pull 1.5-2lb each. 8lb every November gives you roughly 2 oz a week to smoke lol ..
4 plants works just have to be patient.
Now you have 2 monsters vegging and 1 flowering plus the 1 cutting.
if you want to harvest every 4 weeks stagger t
Buy the time you have to flower the stem you took off plant #2 it will be 12-16 weeks old.
This will easily provide enough for 2 people.
Or outdoor grow start 4 plants december/jan by may- June they will be huge put outside scrog and chain link fortress easily pull 1.5-2lb each. 8lb every November gives you roughly 2 oz a week to smoke lol ..
4 plants works just have to be patient.
Zogs
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Yikes, that's over $200 a month in power and a ton of space. I am guessing this is a 8 week perpetual harvest. How much do you yield with 1 plant with a 2 month veg ?
No disrespect intended, I am just searching for the most cost effective way to grow. Comparatively, I am growing with 4 autocobs @54w each costing around $20 a month in power. Growing Auto flowers on average I am getting 2 ounces per plant every 10-12 weeks under each autocob in a 3x3 space.
Running 1 plant under 1000wats of light I am suspecting you might get close to 16 ounces per plant ? Or does that require a longer veg than I am thinking ?
I know there is more than one way to skin a cat, I just want to find the most cost effective way to do it and keep to our silly 4 plant limit.
No disrespect intended, I am just searching for the most cost effective way to grow. Comparatively, I am growing with 4 autocobs @54w each costing around $20 a month in power. Growing Auto flowers on average I am getting 2 ounces per plant every 10-12 weeks under each autocob in a 3x3 space.
Running 1 plant under 1000wats of light I am suspecting you might get close to 16 ounces per plant ? Or does that require a longer veg than I am thinking ?
I know there is more than one way to skin a cat, I just want to find the most cost effective way to do it and keep to our silly 4 plant limit.
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gwheels
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How much do you want or need to grow in your 4 plant limit ? That is the question you need to answer and gear accordingly.
2 oz a month...well you can run 4 in a 4 x 4 and get 3 oz each and get that pretty easily.
4 oz a month...you can get 16 to 24 oz out of a 4 x 4 with the right genetics/lighting/skill. If money is tight a 600 HPS would probably do the trick and is a lot less to start (and a host of samsung strips boards etc can light it for about 3 times the initial outlay)
2 tents allow you to stagger a tent of 4 photo period plants and provides an adequate dryer when you chop. I always found 1 tent to be problematic with a rotating finish time (i hate drying in a lit tent). 2 tents of 2 x 4 is better for personal consumption than 1 tent 4 x 4. You can get a 238 watt light for a 2 x 4 in samsung strips for 300 bucks. 2 of them will light a 4 x 4 (600 for the pair of lights).
2 oz a month...well you can run 4 in a 4 x 4 and get 3 oz each and get that pretty easily.
4 oz a month...you can get 16 to 24 oz out of a 4 x 4 with the right genetics/lighting/skill. If money is tight a 600 HPS would probably do the trick and is a lot less to start (and a host of samsung strips boards etc can light it for about 3 times the initial outlay)
2 tents allow you to stagger a tent of 4 photo period plants and provides an adequate dryer when you chop. I always found 1 tent to be problematic with a rotating finish time (i hate drying in a lit tent). 2 tents of 2 x 4 is better for personal consumption than 1 tent 4 x 4. You can get a 238 watt light for a 2 x 4 in samsung strips for 300 bucks. 2 of them will light a 4 x 4 (600 for the pair of lights).
Brettman
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@OldMedUser
Thank you for the reply. Your plants look great and sorry to hear about the depression, I know It can be a real tough. Do you have anything on the go now ?
Thank you for the reply. Your plants look great and sorry to hear about the depression, I know It can be a real tough. Do you have anything on the go now ?
jimmy 2 step
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We are not allowed to grow legally as of yet in canada, not until u can legally buy seeds from the goverment . Seeds are not available in Nova-scotia yet, I have heard that the NSLC.com is saying most likely late fall to winter 2019 to possibly into 2020.
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Skoal
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Can always claim you got the seeds or clones from a diffent retail store in Canada. How they going to provide it?
Ocs sells seeds. Newfoundland store sells clones.
Also, 2 tents works the best to cycle. Veg in one and flower in the other. Mind you I haven’t even been able to get a seedling to grow a full set of true leaves. Fuckers always die.
Have more seeds on order. Looks like I’m going to run a heater at 26C with wet towels to increase humidity and heat pad to keep the footing structure warm. Hope this one finally takes.
Skoal
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Buddy! I know right! I couldn’t tell you.
They germinate easily. They pop out of soil with the coledyons. I even got one so far to show the first signs of pot leafs.
I honestly think I over watered. And under waterered and the light was an issue on the first 2. 400watt MH.
I’m growing in a basement in a tent. I have been using a 60 watt led screw in bulb for the seedlings. And yet shit still died.
Going forward I’m trying this now:
Heater in tent and going on to keep temps around 26 or so. Heat pad for the roots. And the light being close. Also going to put wet towels in front of heater to create that humidity.
I think I can’t just figure out the watering. Some I’ve only watered once and the soil gets so dry that the soil breaks away from the pot. Others I mist very lightly daily to ensure the soil doesn’t get way too dry and break apart from the pot.
I’ve noticed not many people go into detail about the seedling stage. But if I don’t mist soil daily it gets way too dry man. Think I may wait to water until stem pops up. Water once. Put seed in soil. Wait to pop and then water once the stem is out instead of doing a light misting.
First go at growing from seed. I’ve always only done clones.
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gwheels
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This is nonsense. grab some seeds and let it rip. There are too many houses to have the door to door cannabis gestapo.
There are lots of Canadian seedbanks and some hydro shop still sell them if you ask real nice.
Brettman
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@Skoal
Yeah too me it definitely sounds like your over doing the water. How many seeds are you going to pop and do you do it in paper towel first? Try experimenting, you say your going to water as soon as it pops out, well maybe try watering only one and waiting to see a definite difference between the 2 (or however many you germinate). That’s how I have always done it. Let’s you know exactly what they need. And do not be afraid to let em get to dry as it is easily fixable. Too wet on the other hand and your fucked.
Yeah too me it definitely sounds like your over doing the water. How many seeds are you going to pop and do you do it in paper towel first? Try experimenting, you say your going to water as soon as it pops out, well maybe try watering only one and waiting to see a definite difference between the 2 (or however many you germinate). That’s how I have always done it. Let’s you know exactly what they need. And do not be afraid to let em get to dry as it is easily fixable. Too wet on the other hand and your fucked.
gwheels
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I have mine in the basement. One is on the floor and one is elevated (on a plywood frame over a bathroom rough in). 20 degres lights off and 23 lights on. Works like a champ.
Watering is a tough one. I had to get autopots to stop the brutality. Now i fill a res and it waters itself.
Watering is a tough one. I had to get autopots to stop the brutality. Now i fill a res and it waters itself.
Skoal
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I only have one seed left right now before the new ones come in the mail.
Yes I do paper towel first.
Isn’t it bad if the soil separates from the pot from dryness? Kill a seedling in a day like that?
Brettman
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@Skoal
I’ve always done paper towel and I’ve never had a seedling die. I’ve never grown indoors but I have always started inside under flourescent lighting. so take what I say with a huge grain of salt lmao. If it separates from the cup it should be moist ? Anyways, I think you will be surprised how hardy a seedling actually is, it really doesn’t need much of anything to survive. Maybe you have your light to close. Are you going to germinate the seed you have ?
I’ve always done paper towel and I’ve never had a seedling die. I’ve never grown indoors but I have always started inside under flourescent lighting. so take what I say with a huge grain of salt lmao. If it separates from the cup it should be moist ? Anyways, I think you will be surprised how hardy a seedling actually is, it really doesn’t need much of anything to survive. Maybe you have your light to close. Are you going to germinate the seed you have ?
Skoal
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Seed that is left over is on second day of germination in paper towel.
The light im using is a 3000k led screw in bulb. 60watt equivalent. Not that hot at all about 6 inches away. I started using this bulb after the MH was drying everything up and raising temps to 37c.
When soil separates that’s clear that the soil is dry no? But based on what you are saying and what others have said I’m under the impression that is okay as they don’t need that much eh?
gwheels
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To make seedlings work easiest i have found this works best
1) soak the paper towel and put your seeds in it. I really like that super cheap brown crap like at a restaurant or fast food place, the cardboard rough stuff that doesnt dry your hands. The roots never stick to the paper. Make sure the paper towel does not dry out. I put it in a cup and check on it every day or so.
2) Get a solo cup ready with a bunch of small holes in the bottom. Fill it with your soil (or coco).
3) when the seed has a sprout (1/4 inch or so is fine) soak your soil or coco. Poke a hole in it with a pencil and put the seed in and put the medium on top of it (about half an inch down) sprout finds the right way up so dont stress about it
4) Get a spray bottle. Put it on fine mist. Mist the soil around the plant about daily. Dont let it dry out. The spray bottle helps you to stop over watering the seedling.
Continue to water with the spray bottle until you uppot.
Since i have started this the germ to plant rate of my seeds is stellar.
1) soak the paper towel and put your seeds in it. I really like that super cheap brown crap like at a restaurant or fast food place, the cardboard rough stuff that doesnt dry your hands. The roots never stick to the paper. Make sure the paper towel does not dry out. I put it in a cup and check on it every day or so.
2) Get a solo cup ready with a bunch of small holes in the bottom. Fill it with your soil (or coco).
3) when the seed has a sprout (1/4 inch or so is fine) soak your soil or coco. Poke a hole in it with a pencil and put the seed in and put the medium on top of it (about half an inch down) sprout finds the right way up so dont stress about it
4) Get a spray bottle. Put it on fine mist. Mist the soil around the plant about daily. Dont let it dry out. The spray bottle helps you to stop over watering the seedling.
Continue to water with the spray bottle until you uppot.
Since i have started this the germ to plant rate of my seeds is stellar.
Brettman
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@Skoal
Ok so the lighting sounds good! And yeah when (if) she cracks open, just put it in the soil half inch down. Give it a little water and just wait my friend. Post some pics on here when you do so. I kept my wife’s small or medium iced Capp cups so I can see if it’s rooted well before I transplant. You can also see if it’s moist or not too. Back in October when I started my grow, I think I only watered once before they were root bound in the small timmie cups! Is it a Fem?
Ok so the lighting sounds good! And yeah when (if) she cracks open, just put it in the soil half inch down. Give it a little water and just wait my friend. Post some pics on here when you do so. I kept my wife’s small or medium iced Capp cups so I can see if it’s rooted well before I transplant. You can also see if it’s moist or not too. Back in October when I started my grow, I think I only watered once before they were root bound in the small timmie cups! Is it a Fem?