Pollinating Feminized Plant

[grayeyes]

I am working on a project involving a feminized plant grown from seed. I have finally acquired regular seeds from this strain. I now want to pollinate the fem plant.

Question: Will most of the seeds be feminized or female? I have read that they will be female but I would like someone who knows (not conjecture or 'someone told me") but actual knowledge.

Thanks.

 

[Hugo Phurst]

A female pollinated by a male will produce apx 50/50 mix of male & female seeds.
If you want feminized seeds you'll need herm pollen

 

[curious2garden]

I am working on a project involving a feminized plant grown from seed. I have finally acquired regular seeds from this strain. I now want to pollinate the fem plant.

Question: Will most of the seeds be feminized or female? I have read that they will be female but I would like someone who knows (not conjecture or 'someone told me") but actual knowledge.

Thanks.

If you self the female plant with Colloidal Silver or AgNO3/Sts then the seeds will all be female

If you pollinate your female plant with an actual male plant (ie not a female plant forced to reverse sex), then even though it was a fem seed it will produce both male and female seeds.

 

[grayeyes]

I thought I was clear. I am NOT trying to obtain feminized seed.

I am pollinating to preserve this line. One of the females I have is from a feminized seed.

I DO NOT want feminized seeds. Do I need to repeat that?

 

[Boatguy]

If Hugo's reply wasnt clear enough, no answer will satisfy you.
You will not be preserving any line if you pollinate with a different non feminized strain.
You will have a mix of the 2 and will get about 50/50 male to female ratio.
Have a good day.

 

[grayeyes]

Hmm, in digging some more I found Ed Rosenthal gave me the same answer. Thanks.

 

[Houstini]

And if the strains are from different breeders you’re probably not doing yourself any favors

 

[curious2garden]

I thought I was clear. I am NOT trying to obtain feminized seed.

I am pollinating to preserve this line. One of the females I have is from a feminized seed.

I DO NOT want feminized seeds. Do I need to repeat that?

You were obviously not clear but, my second sentence answers you. If you have regular seeds of the same strain you will get regular seeds even from a plant that grew from femmed seeds and they will have autosomes from the same strain.

And if the strains are from different breeders you’re probably not doing yourself any favors

Then it's just another pollen chucked hybrid

If Hugo's reply wasnt clear enough, no answer will satisfy you.
You will not be preserving any line if you pollinate with a different non feminized strain.
You will have a mix of the 2 and will get about 50/50 male to female ratio.
Have a good day.

If you pollinate with regular seeds from the SAME strain as he stated he had you will breed genetically within that strain because sexual characteristics do not come from your autosomes.

 

[grayeyes]

But Houstini, we don't know do we? And not buying seeds is a benefit. But thanks for the criticism. Makes YOU feel good.

 

[Boatguy]

If you pollinate with regular seeds from the SAME strain as he stated he had you will breed genetically within that strain because sexual characteristics do not come from your autosomes

Thanks for correcting me there. Missed that in his post.

 

[curious2garden]

Thanks for correcting me there. Missed that in his post.

Hey no issues His lack of clarity and obvious anger made for a difficult read. Good to see you.
Annie

 

[Houstini]

I thought I was clear. I am NOT trying to obtain feminized seed.

I am pollinating to preserve this line. One of the females I have is from a feminized seed.

I DO NOT want feminized seeds. Do I need to repeat that?

But Houstini, we don't know do we? And not buying seeds is a benefit. But thanks for the criticism. Makes YOU feel good.

You stated intentions of preserving line, I’d want to know that P1 and P2 were related.

You will get reg seeds.

 

[T macc]

"Duh" moment, huh?
Female x Male = ?

 

[xtsho]

"Duh" moment, huh?
Female x Male = ?

It depends on what state you live in. Here in Oregon you don't have to be male or female.

"Oregon residents will have the option to choose among three gender categories when applying for driver's licenses or state ID cards: male, female and "X" for non-binary or unspecified."

 

[xtsho]

And if the strains are from different breeders you’re probably not doing yourself any favors

I don't think it matters if the strains come from different breeders. There is nothing wrong with crossing an ACE Pakistani Chitral Kush with a Sensi Durban. But those examples are landrace strains so maybe it wasn't what you meant?

 

[Houstini]

I don't think it matters if the strains come from different breeders. There is nothing wrong with crossing an ACE Pakistani Chitral Kush with a Sensi Durban. But those examples are landrace strains so maybe it wasn't what you meant?

OP stated reason of strain preservation, so crossing a feminized white widow with white widow regs from another breeder wouldn’t fit with that intention in my opinion.

 

[xtsho]

OP stated reason of strain preservation, so crossing a feminized white widow with white widow regs from another breeder wouldn’t fit with that intention in my opinion.

That's what I thought you meant. But yeah, crossing the same strain from two different breeders won't preserve the particular strain the OP is trying to preserve. I think the best way for the OP to preserve the strain would be to take some clones, reverse sex one and pollinate another. Even then there would still be variation in the plants grown from seed. But the seeds would all be feminized.

 

[Thundercat]

If the OP has the space to breed properly then he is taking the correct route in my book.

From my understanding to properly stablize the genetics you need to BX the strain on it self twice. Growing out 100-1000 seeds making a selection for the traits you want in a mom and dad and then crossing them.

Then growing out 100-1000 of those seeds finding the traits you want and BXing(back crossing) to the chosen mother plant. And then repeating that again with the second generation of offspring.

This helps to isolate the specific traits your looking for. However it takes huge amounts of space and time to do correctly. I think that's a big reason you see so many fem seeds and the massive influx of new(sometimes poorly tested) poly-hybrid strains.

 

[xtsho]

If the OP has the space to breed properly then he is taking the correct route in my book.

From my understanding to properly stablize the genetics you need to BX the strain on it self twice. Growing out 100-1000 seeds making a selection for the traits you want in a mom and dad and then crossing them.

Then growing out 100-1000 of those seeds finding the traits you want and BXing(back crossing) to the chosen mother plant. And then repeating that again with the second generation of offspring.

This helps to isolate the specific traits your looking for. However it takes huge amounts of space and time to do correctly. I think that's a big reason you see so many fem seeds and the massive influx of new(sometimes poorly tested) poly-hybrid strains.

Which is why so many of the strains out there are just pollen chucks and not worth the $10-20 a seed people are paying. There are very few seed banks doing actual breeding.

 

[Thundercat]

Which is why so many of the strains out there are just pollen chucks and not worth the $10-20 a seed people are paying. There are very few seed banks doing actual breeding.

Truth, I'm very selective about what seeds I order and mess with.