I'm voting for a real Democrat in 2020

Fogdog

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Beto is OK. So is Sanders. I'd prefer Beto over Sanders because Sanders is an extremely divisive leader and we've had enough of that with Trump.

Beto is like Sanders in that he hasn't done anything. Trump didn't have any accomplishments in politcal office when he ran for prez too. I'd prefer Democrats select somebody from the accomplishment wing of the party.
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Beto is OK. So is Sanders. I'd prefer Beto over Sanders because Sanders is an extremely divisive leader and we've had enough of that with Trump.

Beto is like Sanders in that he hasn't done anything. Trump didn't have any accomplishments in politcal office when he ran for prez too. I'd prefer Democrats select somebody from the accomplishment wing of the party.
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Spoken like a true corporatist shill.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Lol

He voted with Republicans 167 times in the last session. If that's your idea of a Democrat, why not just vote for Republicans instead?
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We get it. Cult of Bernie is terrified of O'Rourke so you must attack anybody who says he's OK. O'Rourke represents Texans. Of course he would vote favorably for the fossil fuel industry and more conservatively than a Colorado Democrat would. The typical Democrat votes to support crucial progressive issues about 82% of the time. O'Rourke's score is 78%. That's why he kept getting re-elected as a Democrat from Texas. It's why I say he's OK but I'm not settled on voting for him. I probably won't.

You fuckers are scared of him because he might be more attractive to the average Sanders voter. Your minds are closed. I don't think I'll vote for either. I have another year or more to decide and will make up my mind when it's time.

Why the Bernie Movement Must Crush Beto O’Rourke
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/bernie-sanders-beto-orourke-feud-2020-campaign-democratic.html

The first skirmish of the 2020 Democratic primary, a wave of attacks on Beto O’Rourke by supporters of Bernie Sanders, took almost everybody by surprise. On the outside, it looks like one of those inscrutable, personality-driven online spats that characterize the Twitter era. But the feud is neither petty nor personal nor irrational.

The Sanders partisans who are attacking O’Rourke — like Zaid Jilani, David Sirota, Branko Marcetic, Elizabeth Bruenig — are not representative of Sanders voters as a whole. This distinction is the key to deciphering the whole episode. Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do. The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism.

The rise of Beto O’Rourke poses an obvious threat. The Texas congressman has replicated aspects of Sanders’s appeal — his positivity and refusal to accept PAC money — while exceeding it in some ways. Sanders is charismatic in an unconventional way, the slovenly and cranky but somewhat lovable old uncle, while O’Rourke projects a classic handsome, toothy, Kennedy-esque charm that reliably makes Democrats swoon. Hard-core loyalists find the contrast irksome. “Reading Karl Marx is cool,” saidNomiki Konst, a Sanders loyalist and candidate for New York City public advocate, to NBC. “Doing a livestream while you’re doing your laundry is a gimmick.” The comment sums up the left’s well-grounded fear that Sanders’s hard-core ideological appeal can be easily disarmed with personal charisma.

And while O’Rourke has yet to decide on a presidential campaign, and would have to overcome an enormous field if he does, the Sandernistas are hardly paranoid to discern the kind of groundswell that could quickly propel O’Rourke to the front of the pack.
 
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