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thenotsoesoteric

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Calling a cut of OG kush that is unique to you 'fire OG' is shady?

Then you better call up Katsu and tell him not to call that shit Katsu, or Abusive, or Ghost, or or or....

The fucking irony of a seedbank getting upset about someone who is literally a fucking OG in this space for calling their distinctive cut something to specifically discern it from others is just fucking incredible...

If the guy named it OGraskal cut of dank, then I can see your point. Fact is he named an OG cut, fire og. Perfectly within his right to do so considering none of us would have even known about this particular if not for raskl.

Nothing of what I've offered is in any way a judgement on Heisen or what he's doing with his seed company, I couldn't care less. Best luck, make millions.
But its not Raskal's cut. What is so hard to understand?

And an OG? Why cuz his cousin is B real?
 

CannaBruh

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But its not Raskal's cut. What is so hard to understand?

And an OG? Why cuz his cousin is B real?
I'm truly having a hard time trying to understand why you have a problem with it?

From the outside, it appears that Heisen is posturing by attacking a well known reputable breeder for the sole intent of driving traffic/sales. This is highly unethical imo.

The beef should lay with the originator of the cut, those who shared it with the guy who 'renamed' it.

Nobody took issue for the past 10 years but here Heisen has a new seed company and all of a sudden virtue signals on RIU.

It IS Raskl's cut, that's the point. If not please let us know who has been sharing this 'OG kush' (aka fire og) with the community for the past 10+ years... we'll wait.
 

jayblaze710

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Calling a cut of OG kush that is unique to you 'fire OG' is shady?

Then you better call up Katsu and tell him not to call that shit Katsu, or Abusive, or Ghost, or or or....

The fucking irony of a seedbank getting upset about someone who is literally a fucking OG in this space for calling their distinctive cut something to specifically discern it from others is just fucking incredible...

If the guy named it OGraskal cut of dank, then I can see your point. Fact is he named an OG cut, fire og. Perfectly within his right to do so considering none of us would have even known about this particular if not for raskl.
Katsu is an S1. He popped the seed. In this case it’s a good thing he called it something else, in order to differentiate between his S1 and the “legit” Bubba Kush.

OG Kush is all kinds of messed up and confusing because everyone started renaming cuts. Swerve straight up made up Tahoe OG and SFV OG. Just call it what it is. 90%+ of OG Kush cuts are just renamed or are S1’s. The problem with renaming the cut is that it’s likely the same exact OG Kush cut that everyone else had at the time. Only now it seems more desirable and rare.
 

CannaBruh

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Katsu is an S1. He popped the seed. In this case it’s a good thing he called it something else, in order to differentiate between his S1 and the “legit” Bubba Kush.

OG Kush is all kinds of messed up and confusing because everyone started renaming cuts. Swerve straight up made up Tahoe OG and SFV OG. Just call it what it is. 90%+ of OG Kush cuts are just renamed or are S1’s. The problem with renaming the cut is that it’s likely the same exact OG Kush cut that everyone else had at the time. Only now it seems more desirable and rare.
While these are valid points, to anyone who has ran and held at one time the many different OGs out there knows the discernible differences. To call all of these OG kush would be a huge injustice.
 

Bodyne

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White Hot OG maybe? or KromeFire? Where is his seeds available at, I can't find any anywhere, but I do see some of his new crosses, wifi cookies, wifi mints, raskal's romulan. lookslike he's collaboratin with folks like jbeezy and jungle boys, just a few I see. Everyone these days is collaboratin with each other. Nice to see no competition anymore, if the big boys are finally playing together.
 

Heisenbeans

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I'm truly having a hard time trying to understand why you have a problem with it?

From the outside, it appears that Heisen is posturing by attacking a well known reputable breeder for the sole intent of driving traffic/sales. This is highly unethical imo.

The beef should lay with the originator of the cut, those who shared it with the guy who 'renamed' it.

Nobody took issue for the past 10 years but here Heisen has a new seed company and all of a sudden virtue signals on RIU.

It IS Raskl's cut, that's the point. If not please let us know who has been sharing this 'OG kush' (aka fire og) with the community for the past 10+ years... we'll wait.
Dude that is ridiculous. No one is gonna buy my seeds from diverting customers from him lol. Wtf does that even mean. It was not just a random cut. He said it was Florida 92 OG and after he got it he know everyone else had the same cut. He named his fire OG and included it in his breeding program. The comments on the thread blew up and it was funny.

All i was doing was saying what the dude said. Your turning into he had a random no name cut and I'm trying to steal his customers lol. That's rediculous
 

Heisenbeans

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Katsu is an S1. He popped the seed. In this case it’s a good thing he called it something else, in order to differentiate between his S1 and the “legit” Bubba Kush.

OG Kush is all kinds of messed up and confusing because everyone started renaming cuts. Swerve straight up made up Tahoe OG and SFV OG. Just call it what it is. 90%+ of OG Kush cuts are just renamed or are S1’s. The problem with renaming the cut is that it’s likely the same exact OG Kush cut that everyone else had at the time. Only now it seems more desirable and rare.
This was exactly my point. He admitted he got it from Florida and it was called OG kush. He said everyone that was getting it out there called it OG kush. He said it was better than anything he had in his grow room so he re named it to fire OG.
Its the same OG and most likely triangle kush.
 

CannaBruh

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It's clear as day to anyone being objective Heisen, you trying to throw shade on another breeder over information he voluntarily offered in your own seedbank thread.

What was the scope/intent of you doing so if not to generate sales/traffic?

It's my perception, that's all.

That you guys chucking beans are shitting on someone who carried the torch is ironic.
 

Bodyne

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But its not Raskal's cut. What is so hard to understand?

And an OG? Why cuz his cousin is B real?
that's why all the rapper pics, now I get it, didn't get it at first, thought he was an older FL hippie transplanted or something, then seen his pic, he don't look very old. But that explains the posturing and such. I started to think he was on the Mayans.
 

Heathen Raider

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Well I just pollenated some TGA The Void with God Bud so I named it Ragnarok , Its guaranteed to be the Dankest ever since I gave it a cool name, is that the gist of whats going on? Just asking because by nature I am pretty dense.
 

Heisenbeans

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It's clear as day to anyone being objective Heisen, you trying to throw shade on another breeder over information he voluntarily offered in your own seedbank thread.

What was the scope/intent of you doing so if not to generate sales/traffic?

It's my perception, that's all.

That you guys chucking beans are shitting on someone who carried the torch is ironic.
He was arguing with krome and to be honest I thought the dude was kinda douchy. It was a video he was in live chat arguing over krome mis labeling a cross of fire OG. Than all the shit hit the fan.

But trust me I wasn't throwing shade.If you read my original post that was not the case whatsoever.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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It's clear as day to anyone being objective Heisen, you trying to throw shade on another breeder over information he voluntarily offered in your own seedbank thread.

What was the scope/intent of you doing so if not to generate sales/traffic?

It's my perception, that's all.

That you guys chucking beans are shitting on someone who carried the torch is ironic.
Aint no one carried the fucking torch for me bro, lol. I guarantee that. What does that even mean? Carried the torch, gtfo.
 

CannaBruh

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He was arguing with krome and to be honest I thought the dude was kinda douchy. It was a video he was in live chat arguing over krome mis labeling a cross of fire OG. Than all the shit hit the fan.

But trust me I wasn't throwing shade.If you read my original post that was not the case whatsoever.
Read what you wrote here;
Be like me renaming wedding cake to fire cake or some shit and pretending like I found it.
Did raskl pretend he found og kush? Or did he append the name og kush with the word fire?

Really he didn't even change the name, he gave it nomenclature so we could discern who the cut came from... a la every forum member who came across something that seemingly nobody else was sharing/holding.
 

CannaBruh

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Aint no one carried the fucking torch for me bro, lol. I guarantee that. What does that even mean? Carried the torch, gtfo.
If you're having a hard time understanding what this means while posturing the way you are over some appended naming convention then I have no interest in discussing any of this with you any longer, have a great day.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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But he trademark the name! That is the issue. Just calling it fire kush is whatever but branding the shit like its an original creation is shady.

Either way I dont mean to offend or be offensive. I just find it tasteless. But it is just a matter of opinion. Nothing more.
 

GreenHighlander

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Aint no one carried the fucking torch for me bro, lol. I guarantee that. What does that even mean? Carried the torch, gtfo.
Read what you wrote here;


Did raskl pretend he found og kush? Or did he append the name og kush with the word fire?

Really he didn't even change the name, he gave it nomenclature so we could discern who the cut came from... a la every forum member who came across something that seemingly nobody else was sharing/holding.

As a peace maker you guys seem to actually be on the same page. There are much bigger douche bags on these forums to pick pointless fights with then either one of you who I don't know either as a douche bag.

Cheers :)
 

Heisenbeans

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Read what you wrote here;


Did raskl pretend he found og kush? Or did he append the name og kush with the word fire?

Really he didn't even change the name, he gave it nomenclature so we could discern who the cut came from... a la every forum member who came across something that seemingly nobody else was sharing/holding.
Your right man. I can agree to disagree at this point. You have made yours clear and didint quote my original post before you jumped in and started saying i was running a smear campaign to get customers lol.

One thing about my business homie I dont depend on it. I dont have to make up stories and scams to sell seeds. If they do they do if they don't they dont. I'll let the people popping them when the time comes decide for themselves.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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If you're having a hard time understanding what this means while posturing the way you are over some appended naming convention then I have no interest in discussing any of this with you any longer, have a great day.
Dont try to insult me bro. I understand your stance, isnt hard to comprehend.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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As a peace maker you guys seem to actually be on the same page. There are much bigger douche bags on these forums to pick pointless fights with then either one of you who I don't know either as a douche bag.

Cheers :)
No fighting. But saying some LA breeder is carrying the torch for me is just plain wrong. No other way to put it.
 
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