klx
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I totally understand, we are under the booted foot of prohibition as well....but fuck em I say
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Heisenbubble
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Also I would like to publically apologize to Gu for his cake cut.i looked through those pics and the second one that the dude posted is in fact the jbeezy wed cake mom.the one he posted on his website looks nothing like her but looking at the guys Instagram there is another pic that is definitely her that you can tell was in the same group of pics.
Not wanting to start a shit storm here but I did want to apologize.personally cant vouche for any of the others or deny that he was using fake pics but as far as the cake n chem goes it's legit.
Anyone that runs it that gets a p deficiency and is hard to get right you will have a keeper.i have ran her twice now and she truly is a special bitch.extremely hard to dial in but ice gotten purpling in veg because she is such a phosphorus hog.so anyone running the cake n chem and you see early purpling and slow flowering at first do not get discouraged cause she will prob be a dank queen.
2 to 1 veg nutes will give you purpling.craziest shit I've ever seen but it's so worth it if you can tame her.everyone I know that has ran cake either loves her or hates her.
Not wanting to start a shit storm here but I did want to apologize.personally cant vouche for any of the others or deny that he was using fake pics but as far as the cake n chem goes it's legit.
Anyone that runs it that gets a p deficiency and is hard to get right you will have a keeper.i have ran her twice now and she truly is a special bitch.extremely hard to dial in but ice gotten purpling in veg because she is such a phosphorus hog.so anyone running the cake n chem and you see early purpling and slow flowering at first do not get discouraged cause she will prob be a dank queen.
2 to 1 veg nutes will give you purpling.craziest shit I've ever seen but it's so worth it if you can tame her.everyone I know that has ran cake either loves her or hates her.
blowincherrypie
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I know there are a few people using MegaCrop and just wanted to share that Ive gotten strains to finish better by cutting back Megacrop to once a week starting week 5. I personally use Kelp-4-less bloom pack 2-20-20 but Im sure anything with lower N will probably help. I used to cut back MegaCrop after week 6 but am noticing less white pistils from cuttings this time around.
Im guessing some strains are more N sensitive or something?
Im guessing some strains are more N sensitive or something?
Heisenbubble
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A little tip for all you guys taking pics under hps and 3000k cobs if you swipe right while your camera is open and select pro it will pull up a wb icon.click on it and select the color temp of whatever lights your using and it will filter out all the reds so the pictures will look better without all the orange glow.just wanted.to throw that out there for all the picture takers.not sure how it works under blurple.
Greenthumbs256
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so ur saying it's will completely take out the hps? bc I've always had to wait for lights out in order to take pics!
Heisenbeans
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This will be my name from here on out.anyone who needs to get a hold of me can message this name.
Yes it will take out the reds from hps.
Greenthumbs256
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anyone have problems with herms on the tomahawk? ggxstardawg I just found a fucking nanner! it was the only one I could find on the entire girl! but I've learned that when there is one there is always more!
Bongsmoke420
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That Tb looks awesome, indica dominant? I think I got one growing that looks very similar too that, can only hope It turns out that good mate
Hotwired
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Thanks for trying to help out, I appreciate it. Hydro wouldn't work for me because I run a perpetual in soil. This is how I do it:
Take clones, make them last 4 weeks. Usually fully done in 3 weeks but I keep them in shape for 1 more. Then off to the veg room for 4 weeks in 1 gallon pots in soil mix under 450 watt hps. That's 8 full weeks and now the flower rooms are done. Take those down and now move the veg rooms to the flower rooms transplanted to 2 gallon pots. By this time the next batch of clones are ready and they move into the empty veg rooms etc etc etc...
I get anywhere from 12 to 14 z's under the 600. I know hydro would yield a lot more but I would have to change the whole method and perpetual probably wouldn't work. I can't do 1k's because I have no way to cool those and my electric bill would soar to the moon.
I think it may be genetics too. Some types just don't yield well but my Lemon Hashplant from Bodhi does well and the LVTK did pretty damn good too. Hard to compete here now because all the stuff coming from the west coast cheap as hell. $100 ounces left and right of decent shit killing off all the growers. Many people here just want cheap shit and don't care what it is as long as they get high. There are still a few who appreciate top shelf stuff, but wont pay top shelf money. The way of the world I guess
Greenthumbs256
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I get that! it's becoming that way everywhere! there is so much bud only the massive growers are surviving! and only bc they can under cut everyone's prices!! there isn't a ton of connoisseurs left! bc the cheap bud is actually really good! it sucks!!!Thanks for trying to help out, I appreciate it. Hydro wouldn't work for me because I run a perpetual in soil. This is how I do it:
Take clones, make them last 4 weeks. Usually fully done in 3 weeks but I keep them in shape for 1 more. Then off to the veg room for 4 weeks in 1 gallon pots in soil mix under 450 watt hps. That's 8 full weeks and now the flower rooms are done. Take those down and now move the veg rooms to the flower rooms transplanted to 2 gallon pots. By this time the next batch of clones are ready and they move into the empty veg rooms etc etc etc...
I get anywhere from 12 to 14 z's under the 600. I know hydro would yield a lot more but I would have to change the whole method and perpetual probably wouldn't work. I can't do 1k's because I have no way to cool those and my electric bill would soar to the moon.
I think it may be genetics too. Some types just don't yield well but my Lemon Hashplant from Bodhi does well and the LVTK did pretty damn good too. Hard to compete here now because all the stuff coming from the west coast cheap as hell. $100 ounces left and right of decent shit killing off all the growers. Many people here just want cheap shit and don't care what it is as long as they get high. There are still a few who appreciate top shelf stuff, but wont pay top shelf money. The way of the world I guess
klx
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Sounds like you got things sorted to me.Thanks for trying to help out, I appreciate it. Hydro wouldn't work for me because I run a perpetual in soil. This is how I do it:
Take clones, make them last 4 weeks. Usually fully done in 3 weeks but I keep them in shape for 1 more. Then off to the veg room for 4 weeks in 1 gallon pots in soil mix under 450 watt hps. That's 8 full weeks and now the flower rooms are done. Take those down and now move the veg rooms to the flower rooms transplanted to 2 gallon pots. By this time the next batch of clones are ready and they move into the empty veg rooms etc etc etc...
I get anywhere from 12 to 14 z's under the 600. I know hydro would yield a lot more but I would have to change the whole method and perpetual probably wouldn't work. I can't do 1k's because I have no way to cool those and my electric bill would soar to the moon.
I think it may be genetics too. Some types just don't yield well but my Lemon Hashplant from Bodhi does well and the LVTK did pretty damn good too. Hard to compete here now because all the stuff coming from the west coast cheap as hell. $100 ounces left and right of decent shit killing off all the growers. Many people here just want cheap shit and don't care what it is as long as they get high. There are still a few who appreciate top shelf stuff, but wont pay top shelf money. The way of the world I guess
Yeah man $100 ounces would take all the small growers out here.
Greenthumbs256
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shit were at 150 dollar ounces where I'm at and it sucks ass! I won't sell zips of what I grow lmfao fuck that bring your cheap ass to walmart!
Hotwired
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This is why I am going for yield now over top shelf. It seems like no one cares anymore as long as your buds are:
1) BIG (people orgasm over those 7 gram buds)
2) Smell nice
3) Frosty (this gets a big plus if it oozes frost tho)
4) Looks decent
5) Cured just right
The only people left who pay for top shelf are the rich kids who want to show off the latest new thing. The rest are getting it cheap now but WAIT...........WAIT till it goes legal everywhere and they have to pay dispensary prices. No more $100 ounces. I really don't think it will be profitable for them to sell so low. Once the east coast goes rec then the west coast is fucked as well. No more cheap shit to send east and they will be stuck with it. So what happens after that? Maybe small growers make a comeback with top shelf stuff? We shall see in the next few years. Hope I'm around to see it happen
1) BIG (people orgasm over those 7 gram buds)
2) Smell nice
3) Frosty (this gets a big plus if it oozes frost tho)
4) Looks decent
5) Cured just right
The only people left who pay for top shelf are the rich kids who want to show off the latest new thing. The rest are getting it cheap now but WAIT...........WAIT till it goes legal everywhere and they have to pay dispensary prices. No more $100 ounces. I really don't think it will be profitable for them to sell so low. Once the east coast goes rec then the west coast is fucked as well. No more cheap shit to send east and they will be stuck with it. So what happens after that? Maybe small growers make a comeback with top shelf stuff? We shall see in the next few years. Hope I'm around to see it happen
quiescent
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Realistically huge producers will supply like 98% of individuals at a much lower rate than you're expecting. There will be plenty of shit tier carpet baggers coming out west back to the east coast from where they originated.This is why I am going for yield now over top shelf. It seems like no one cares anymore as long as your buds are:
1) BIG (people orgasm over those 7 gram buds)
2) Smell nice
3) Frosty (this gets a big plus if it oozes frost tho)
4) Looks decent
5) Cured just right
The only people left who pay for top shelf are the rich kids who want to show off the latest new thing. The rest are getting it cheap now but WAIT...........WAIT till it goes legal everywhere and they have to pay dispensary prices. No more $100 ounces. I really don't think it will be profitable for them to sell so low. Once the east coast goes rec then the west coast is fucked as well. No more cheap shit to send east and they will be stuck with it. So what happens after that? Maybe small growers make a comeback with top shelf stuff? We shall see in the next few years. Hope I'm around to see it happen
I liken the situation of growers figuring out the gravy train is over as similar to a situation I witnessed in my city. A few years ago for whatever reason food trucks were trending way up. There's a low barrier to entry and everyone thinks they'll make it. Problem was the degenerate pirate fucks that couldn't cook their way out of a paper bag or keep a McDonald's from going under were the ones that decided to throw their hat in the ring because they'd rather be their own boss. We can all guess what happened, lots of food trucks for sale and a bunch of pirates on the curb making excuses why they failed.
I saw the same thing happen around when Colorado went medical, all these growers got their proverbial food truck. Then things went fully legal and the pirates that had a wife with half a brain bounced. They might've ended up in prohibition land. They might've kept growing, maybe not.
Some growers never left prohibition land and have been a witness to what's going on in the rest of the country. Either way, you're delusional if you think you're going to be selling your lbs for more than 1k when it's time for the nation to go legal. If you can't grow weed with economic efficiency I'd sell your gear and keep a private tent.
I won't even get into the oil cartridge thing fucking smaller producers of quality flower. All I'll say is I use them outside of my home for discretion and enjoy being able to get blasted around hundreds of other people and no one's the wiser.
The days of some growers being early retirees and stay at home dads are coming to a close. It's a bittersweet moment, wish no ill will but I'm glad it's happening. Soon it's gonna be put up or shut up time, best to prepare those folks so they'll hopefully stay off social welfare programs.
If any of this describes any of us, I'm sorry for keeping it real..... Your futures are gonna be different than you imagined.
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I knew it was in ya some where.You remind me a lot of my father in law Heisen.He was an awesome guy that would give his shoes off his feet to some one in need,but he could also be the biggest muddafukka one ever met,ya either loved him or hated him.A true old school Harley buildin biker with nothing but love for the plant.Wish i had realized how much i'd miss him once he was no longer with us.
to cancer.
Jnrx71
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all we have to do where i live is beat the dispensery prices. There is a flood of CO, CA, WA, OR outdoor here right now but our customers still pay a premium for local organic grown bud, wholesale units are going about 24 for small batch local produce
Bodyne
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met him, talked to him quite a bit, lived down the road for a few minutes. Been since 2013 or so. Met Kareem and MedKlow also, all great guys, give ya the shirt off their back. I just wished Sportz would have told me that gal I was livin with a known crazy hippiechick! lol
macsnax
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Speaking of cob spectrum. I'm getting ready to buy some, what spec would you suggest for veg and bloom? Should I go with veros or the cxb3590? This is all new to me here and want to make the best decision possible.
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