The UK Growers Thread!
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The Yorkshireman
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@limonene
What the fuck has my last grow got to do with you saying Rhino filters are shit because 'reasons'?
The truth is you did read my post.
And it obviously touched a nerve because you've turned to Ad Hominem attacks rather than address the points logically.
Rather than defend what you've already said (which you can't) you've decided to go find something about me that you can attack to discredit me.
Personal attacks, the last resort of a beaten man.
What the fuck has my last grow got to do with you saying Rhino filters are shit because 'reasons'?
The truth is you did read my post.
And it obviously touched a nerve because you've turned to Ad Hominem attacks rather than address the points logically.
Rather than defend what you've already said (which you can't) you've decided to go find something about me that you can attack to discredit me.
Personal attacks, the last resort of a beaten man.
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The Yorkshireman
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Get the popcorn lads.
Some cunt's about to get rekt.
Some cunt's about to get rekt.
The Yorkshireman
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Yes I was expecting only 17oz from 1800 watts.
Taking into consideration the strain (GG#4) and the size of the plants after very little veg time.
But I didn't get 17, I got about 26 and some hash pile crap that can't be sold.
GG#4 is not known for it's yield, it's a lanky bamboo stick of a plant that grows nugget buds.
Quality yes, yield no.
If you pay attention to the photo you can see the plants are not very big at all, despite the space being filled completely.
I even said.......
Having 1800w of light doesn't automatically get you large yield, there are many variables, like......
1) The amount of growing space.
2) The strain.
3) Size of plants after veg.
4) Nutrition.
4) Usable air flow and environment.
It's not simply a case of "I have X amount of light so I'm going to get Y amount of product".
It doesn't remotely work like that, any decent grower knows this.
So with the variables considered, no it's not terrible.
The Yorkshireman
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Bullshit, pictures or it didn't happen.
315w CMH lights have fuck all penetration, they have a very wide spread but crap light intensity away from the bulb.
As demonstrated by the study conducted by Utah Sate University linked below........
Economic Analysis of Greenhouse Lighting: Light Emitting Diodes vs. High Intensity Discharge Fixtures
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0099010
So unless you're growing SCROG or coral in a water tank they're shit.
And unless you can prove it I very much doubt you've got 14oz of GG#4 off one 315w CMH bulb, not unless you're weighing that shit wet and untrimmed.
I remember a couple of years ago when you told us you've grown 50+ oz single plants under 2 x 600's and couldn't back it up with proof then.
Your word is worth fuck all.
The Yorkshireman
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The Yorkshireman
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Takes a photo of the top of a plant strain that is known for producing small buds and tries to imply that is indicative of the growers prowess.
I could do the same to you and make you look a cunt.
Nice leafy bud you've got there.
Except in your case where a fan leaf so far up towards the top of the plant like that sticks out with so much open space it means you're not getting any density, let alone stacking up decent colas.
In fact looking through your grow pics you've got very few if any decent colas, you grow twiggy plants with small buds.
The Yorkshireman
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Really? I think you're fibbing a bit there cos it's not as sad as your glue now is it?
I mean, what the actual fuck have you done to that plant!?
It's nutrition is terrible, look at the state of the colours for fucks sake.
And it's been left to flower for too long, that was done ages ago.
Now let's put your glue side by side with my glue.
Your Glue.....
My Glue.....
Mine's healthier, frostier, flowered perfectly and not left for too long.
It's clear to see which is the better specimen.
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The Yorkshireman
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You do realise that measuring yield based solely on grams per watt of flowering light is completely arbitrary and pointless right?
No, because you're an idiot who doesn't understand that variables I've mentioned like.....
1) The amount of growing space.
2) The strain.
3) Size of plants after veg (hence veg light and time under said light)
4) Nutrition.
4) Usable air flow and environment.
......are a factor.
When you went back to find my last grow pics did you see the kilo of Exodus Cheese grow before the GG#4?
(obviously not)
As you can see that tent is full to the brim with healthy plants and fat colas, you can't squeeze any more in.
That is a 2.4m square tent.
By your stupid rational 1800w of light should get me 1800g of quality finished product if I'm any good at growing.
1800g is just over 64oz.
I'll tell you straight that it's pretty much impossible to get 64oz of quality product out of a tent that size growing by normal methods or without training and doing a massive SCROG
Even then it'd be debatable if it's physically possible.
64oz is nearly twice as much as what it produced, the proof is in the pudding, just look at the pictures, 64oz aint happening.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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The Yorkshireman
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Limonene is the guy who over feeds a plant Nitrogen and burns it up, then flushes it for 3 weeks dropping the PH through the floor, thus stripping it of Calcium and Magnesium so that it ends up looking like this sorry state........
A 3 weeks flush for fucks sake.
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A 3 weeks flush for fucks sake.
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The Yorkshireman
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And is this the 10/12 inch Rhino Pro filter you had years ago that you can't remember what you didn't like about it?
Maybe if you cleaned its pre-filter by chucking it in the washing machine then the carbon filter would work a bit better eh?
Maybe if you cleaned its pre-filter by chucking it in the washing machine then the carbon filter would work a bit better eh?
The Yorkshireman
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That's you done.
limonene
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I dont have a photo but I can go one better. I put a video of the plant on IG a few weeks ago @limonene132 where you can clearly see a big gg4 under a 315 solistek cmh.Bullshit, pictures or it didn't happen.
315w CMH lights have fuck all penetration, they have a very wide spread but crap light intensity away from the bulb.
As demonstrated by the study conducted by Utah Sate University linked below........
Economic Analysis of Greenhouse Lighting: Light Emitting Diodes vs. High Intensity Discharge Fixtures
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0099010
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So unless you're growing SCROG or coral in a water tank they're shit.
And unless you can prove it I very much doubt you've got 14oz of GG#4 off one 315w CMH bulb, not unless you're weighing that shit wet and untrimmed.
I remember a couple of years ago when you told us you've grown 50+ oz single plants under 2 x 600's and couldn't back it up with proof then.
Your word is worth fuck all.
Yes cmh OBVIOUSLY dosnt have the penetration of hps but it is a much more useful spectrum to the plant and is way closer to the suns spectrum. Again I feel you’re just reposting shit you’ve found online and have no real world experience. Gg4 thrives under lower intensity lighting as do many cookie and OG varietals so it is strain dependant, other strains may not do as well but the quality under cmh will be superior 9 times out of 10
limonene
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They look like garbage pal Not even fit for extractionView attachment 4167642 View attachment 4167644
Where are your 3+ litre sized colas bitch!?
Yeah that's right, you don't have any!
The Yorkshireman
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You should read the study I posted a link to.
It proves that spectrum and PAR is nothing next to raw photon output.
So no, you're wrong.
1) No GG#4 does not thrive under low intensity lighting, the more light the better the plant (given the environment is dialed in accordingly), It's basic science.
Stick a 400w over a GG#4 and then stick 600w over another identical one and see which comes out on top, you make no sense.
2) GG#4 is not a Cookie variant, and it has a small amount of OG genetics in it.
[QUOTE="limonene, post: 14368756, member: 912305" the quality under cmh will be superior 9 times out of 10[/QUOTE]
Again, read the study linked.
You're wrong.
limonene
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Thanks for finding that photo that was a brand new filter and didn’t work for shit. I’d been in South America for a month and came back and that place honked. Humidity was at 50%. That’s why I don’t use them. Happened at another spot too about the same timeAnd is this the 10/12 inch Rhino Pro filter you had years ago that you can't remember what you didn't like about it?
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Maybe if you cleaned its pre-filter by chucking it in the washing machine then the carbon filter would work a bit better eh?
The Yorkshireman
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How the fuck can you tell the quality of the frost from a photo taken around 4 feet away because the cola is so damn big?
That's right, you can't.
Obviously yours will look frosty cos the photos are fucking close ups.
Logic dickhead.
limonene
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Again, read the study linked.
You're wrong.[/QUOTE]
I never said it was a Cooke or Og varietal and again you’re talking out your arse as I’ve grown it under multiple light sources and it performs best under less intense lighting. Nothing to do with environment just certain strains like certain things