Greenpoint seeds!!

40AmpstoFreedom

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That’s much more likely a personal security practice problem. Payofix is a legit business and the gps tech stack is pretty tight, I am certain this problem did not originate at either company,
This is what I think as well. Right now everything being said is just conjecture other than the 4 males in the wedding cakes. So keep the line all until some of us with experience on the genes have grown them out. I will be cutting my choices down to only 2 strains though and 10 beans a pack. I originally was doing everything released.

This all could turn out legit at the end of the day and just be wedding cake issues as everyone should have expected anyways. If this does turn out bad I would hope we could at least exchange these beans with GPS strains...

The guy that has sold these beans I believe has released them all under multiple company names to GPS and THCfarmer. Little history, many breeders have hated Logic for years. I never did business with him due to this until last few months. Hopefully it's not one big set up for the fall, but always in the back of my head since inception is this guy has pissed off too many people...Hope I am wrong but this is classic par for the course in seed game.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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Hmm, I am tempted to get all my WC wet just to get to the bottom of it. Not sure how many are close flipping theirs. I feel like if I don't find out it will be bugging the hell out of me. I just sure hope something good comes from all this.
I will be opening all my S1 packs and be comparing beans as a result of what Whytewidow posted which may or may not be legit info. Seems very odd something like that just so happen to happen...I don't I question everything now heh.

If everyone of them have multiple different looking beans it very well may be bulk BS seed lol.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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Ok I always order a minimum of 3 packs of what I order. If that isn't available, unless it is some very rare wanted seed lot, I don't fuck with it. Having been in the seed and breeding game for over ten years now, I will say, after opening all packs of 5 different s1's from the drops all the seed lots are as uniform as expected, and all different. Mimosa's all looks like mimosas, same goes for wedding cake, purple punch, gg4, topanga, etc. If they were bulk seeds each bulk is an individual lot and strain. GG4 has the most variation out of the ones I opened but look at its pedigree...makes sense to me.

This is good news imo so far. If anyone else has multiple packs of the same strain feel free to help us out with your opinions.
 

Michael Huntherz

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Ok I always order a minimum of 3 packs of what I order. If that isn't available, unless it is some very rare wanted seed lot, I don't fuck with it. Having been in the seed and breeding game for over ten years now, I will say, after opening all packs of 5 different s1's from the drops all the seed lots are as uniform as expected, and all different. Mimosa's all looks like mimosas, same goes for wedding cake, purple punch, gg4 etc. If they were bulk seeds each bulk is an individual lot and strain.

This is good news imo so far. If anyone else has multiple packs of the same strain feel free to help us out with your opinions.
Solid work, thanks for doing that, very cool of you. Maybe this will turn out okay. I don’t even have a dog in the fight, just an over-active sense of justice, lulz.
 

ReefRider311

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I popped 6 wedding cake, 6 Mimosa, and 2 purple punch about 5 weeks ago. Out of the bunch I've identified 3 WC, 3 Mimosa, and both purple punches as definite female. On 4 of the others (2 WC & 2 mimosa) I am seeing what looks like male parts, but it's too early to tell for sure. The 2 others aren't showing sex yet. Just flipped them yesterday. I'll keep a close eye on them for the next week and report back with pics.
 

nc208

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I popped 6 wedding cake, 6 Mimosa, and 2 purple punch about 5 weeks ago. Out of the bunch I've identified 3 WC, 3 Mimosa, and both purple punches as definite female. On 4 of the others (2 WC & 2 mimosa) I am seeing what looks like male parts, but it's too early to tell for sure. The 2 others aren't showing sex yet. Just flipped them yesterday. I'll keep a close eye on them for the next week and report back with pics.
Crazy your the 3rd person now. 3 seperate people can't be coincidence.
 

ReefRider311

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I guess the big question is are these just s1 female showing some male tendencies or was there some pollen contamination going on from an unknown male.
 

Heisengrow

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This is what I think as well. Right now everything being said is just conjecture other than the 4 males in the wedding cakes. So keep the line all until some of us with experience on the genes have grown them out. I will be cutting my choices down to only 2 strains though and 10 beans a pack. I originally was doing everything released.

This all could turn out legit at the end of the day and just be wedding cake issues as everyone should have expected anyways. If this does turn out bad I would hope we could at least exchange these beans with GPS strains...

The guy that has sold these beans I believe has released them all under multiple company names to GPS and THCfarmer. Little history, many breeders have hated Logic for years. I never did business with him due to this until last few months. Hopefully it's not one big set up for the fall, but always in the back of my head since inception is this guy has pissed off too many people...Hope I am wrong but this is classic par for the course in seed game.
I personally like Logic.Im an admin on his forum and He always seems cool as shit to me,He never cut my throat or done me wrong,I think he might have issues when someones order gets caught out there in customs,People need to know the seed game sucks as we can see the shit Gu is going through now.Its not always there fault.Shit happens and they get kinda overwhelmed with damage control.
Its not like walking into WalMart.If the breeder wants to make it right than thats great but shit does happen.
 

Rivendell

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This may dog @Gu for months or longer as reports trickle in over time as more people attempt to flower these S1s. He may have to do some preemptive damage control via a mass nugget credit and a email warning people about the seeds and explaining the credit.

He always treats customers right so I am sure he will handle this in the expected fashion no matter what he decides on.
 

Stoned Drifter

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I checked out sag ig and now he is claiming to have lemon tree, wedding cake, Topanga crosses. So this guy has Lemon Tree, WC 7, and Topanga males?! hum?? Now Im thinking pollen contamination is a possibility, but I doubt he has those males. Screenshot_2018-05-12-19-18-47.png Screenshot_2018-05-12-19-18-57.png Screenshot_2018-05-12-19-19-06.png
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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Crazy your the 3rd person now. 3 seperate people can't be coincidence.
Do note all of these were expected to have a herm issue with Banana og and Wedding Cake being the worse of the lot. Nearly every line dropped on the makers instagrams and what not all had issues. I would have rated the mimosa and purple punch as being 2nd in line for herm problems. A high amount of full male flowers was definitely not expected however...In the fem industry that is only expected about a rate of 1 of 100, if that, and it is not really a male, it just shows male parts.

I don't know, I am sure I will get a lot of hate for this, but seems Cali genetics generalized for the past 8 years especially, are nothing but ghetto queens. Especially as of late.

Really pretty on the outside, pretty fuckin ruined on the inside.

I mean what doesn't fuckin herm and usually yield like garbage from there lately? From Alien Genetics (what ran them out of business the first time I was there), to seed junkies, to Archive (even his face off fuckin hermis), to several symbiotic lines, to orgn kid (let us all know how the banana OG S1), jungleboyz being most popular bs, the huge list goes on. Culture over there has gone transgendered ghetto in both music and seed to be honest..

/smh
 

jayblaze710

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I checked out sag ig and now he is claiming to have lemon tree, wedding cake, Topanga crosses. So this guy has Lemon Tree, WC 7, and Topanga males?! hum?? Now Im thinking pollen contamination is a possibility, but I doubt he has those males. View attachment 4135080 View attachment 4135081 View attachment 4135082
He can’t have those males because those males don’t exist. They’re all well known cuts, which is why the S1’s were so desirable.

At this point it’s definitely either pollen contamination (but from where?) or just straight up bunk seeds.

Everyone claiming Gu will fix this...I’m not so sure. He’s potentially thousands of dollars in the hole on this. That’s a big hit, not one most people would be willing to take. Plus he told us he toured the dude’s facility, a facility that apparently doesn’t exist. He should’ve done his homework on this one. I know I only had any interest in the S1’s because Gu vouched for them. Once I found out where they actually came from things became more and more sketchy.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I agree 100% idk why he would lie. He was like check this out. You know the dude somethingaboutgenetics on insta. I said yeah I think I follow him. Why? He said he made a ton of money selling bulk seeds. I laughed and said what how he'd do that. He said he bought 10k seeds from gyo on bulk order. For like 250 bucks. Or some low low price. And is selling them as elite crosses. And people are eating them up. Then he got onto something else. Bout his mom n shit. I guess sag lived with his mom until up like 10 months ago.
What is funny or fucked up is me and my brother were talking about how all this shit was going play out once we found out Gu bought the beans from some unknown dude off IG. We joked about how "I bet this dude is just selling random swag beans and fucking everyone in their ass."

Sucks I was right but I had a bad feeling about the s1 line as soon as I seen it getting hyped up. Herm report on wedding cakes s1s and then the purple punch 2 that turned out bunk. Naw. Fuck being hip and trendy, I'll wait on fads till I see some evidence there is actually "fire" in them beans. I ain't buying no untested shit, that is just nuts imo.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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This may dog @Gu for months or longer as reports trickle in over time as more people attempt to flower these S1s. He may have to do some preemptive damage control via a mass nugget credit and a email warning people about the seeds and explaining the credit.

He always treats customers right so I am sure he will handle this in the expected fashion no matter what he decides on.
He fucked up by putting his name on the s1's, he should have released them as somethingaboutgenetics instead of vouching. It's now about damage control and gaining back trust lost.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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I personally like Logic. I'm an admin on his forum and He always seems cool as shit to me,He never cut my throat or done me wrong,I think he might have issues when someones order gets caught out there in customs,People need to know the seed game sucks as we can see the shit Gu is going through now.Its not always there fault.Shit happens and they get kinda overwhelmed with damage control.
Its not like walking into WalMart.If the breeder wants to make it right than thats great but shit does happen.
Yeah, I have no issues with logic and any business thus far has been good. I avoided it back in the day because of paranoia, the amount of good breeders I knew that were pissed over whatever, and the laws where I lived. I saw several times first hand what pissing people off in the seed game gets you, and sometimes others get hit in the fallout, so played it safe.

I do have a hunch 2 breeders over there pitching similar s1's are the same people were talking about here though...Different pricing but same dull personality considering literally everything about product, even brand name.

He fucked up by putting his name on the s1's, he should have released them as somethingaboutgenetics instead of vouching. It's now about damage control and gaining back trust lost.
Yeah, new people get in a hurry and all. Who knows he may have really toured the facility, checked the moms, and done other due diligence. We are mostly just running off educated guesses so far.
 
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