The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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you can't make this shit up....

1) giuliani on fox news stated flat out that trump reimbursed cohen the $130k through a law firm - clandestinly

2) neither trump nor cohen will tell trumps lawyers what was seized when the feds raided cohens spaces - it has them more than a lot freaked out. How can you defend someone when they won't brief you on what the prosecutors might have?

You just can't fix, or apparently explain, bucket of rocks stupid.
1 They need to shut the fuck up about stormy and the 130k
2 Trump lies to his lawyers and hangs them out to dry, he's going through lawyers like wives and mistresses. I figure Emmet Flood got paid a fortune upfront and will probably walk away too. They can't tell their lawyers what the FBI has, the lawyers are officers of the court and they would be admitting crimes to their lawyers if they did.

Trump is threatening the DOJ again, a dog that barks also bites.
 

Sir Napsalot

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you can't make this shit up....

1) giuliani on fox news stated flat out that trump reimbursed cohen the $130k through a law firm - clandestinly

2) neither trump nor cohen will tell trumps lawyers what was seized when the feds raided cohens spaces - it has them more than a lot freaked out. How can you defend someone when they won't brief you on what the prosecutors might have?

You just can't fix, or apparently explain, bucket of rocks stupid.
You can't fix guilty, either.
 

greg nr

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They can't tell their lawyers what the FBI has, the lawyers are officers of the court and they would be admitting crimes to their lawyers if they did.
That's not how US law works. No matter what you have done, you are free to discuss it with counsel . What you can't do, is admit crimes to your lawyer and then lie about it in court. They would have to disclose you aren't being truthful.

But if you admit crimes to them, they are in no jeopardy. They are supposed to know what you did to best represent you.

Now you could argue that if you know you are going to lie in court, you would also need to lie to your attorney. That is actually ok from a lawyers ethical obligation. But in this case, it makes zero sense since the prosecutors surely know what they have (or will as soon as the special master realizes that little of it privelaged).

It's just buckets of rocks dumb. Unless you know the investigation will get killed and all evidence destroyed. That's the only way this makes even a little (very little) sense.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That's not how US law works. No matter what you have done, you are free to discuss it with counsel . What you can't do, is admit crimes to your lawyer and then lie about it in court. They would have to disclose you aren't being truthful.

But if you admit crimes to them, they are in no jeopardy. They are supposed to know what you did to best represent you.

Now you could argue that if you know you are going to lie in court, you would also need to lie to your attorney. That is actually ok from a lawyers ethical obligation. But in this case, it makes zero sense since the prosecutors surely know what they have (or will as soon as the special master realizes that little of it privelaged).

It's just buckets of rocks dumb. Unless you know the investigation will get killed and all evidence destroyed. That's the only way this makes even a little (very little) sense.
Trump is so slimy even his lawyer would be shocked! He lies to his lawyers and will lie under oath. Donald is stupid and desperate, his actions often make very little sense, in fact this whole situation is a result of Donald repeatedly fucking himself near silly. John Kelly did call him an idiot and Tillerson said he was a fucking moron, I believe them both and won't quibble about details.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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What you can't do, is admit crimes to your lawyer and then lie about it in court. They would have to disclose you aren't being truthful.
You hit the nail on the head, the documents themselves are evidence of crimes, money laundering, bank fraud and tax evasion I would imagine are among the crimes they can't admit to. They are both guilty as sin and stupid as stumps with no way out, for Trump at least, but Cohen will do time even if he serves up Trump's head on a silver platter.

Rudy stuck his foot in it bigly and I figure Trump will freak when he realises how badly Rudy fucked him. Rudy is well past his best before date and his brains are near running out of his ears.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Oh but what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. I figure Donald has woven himself a hermetically sealed cocoon of mendacity with no escape for the maggot.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump Threatens To 'Get Involved' In Mueller's Investigation
With Donald Trump refusing to meet at the special counsel's request to answer questions, a presidential subpoena could be on the horizon.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"This president will not serve out this term. I guarantee it." - Michael Avenetti


just now on MSNBC. last time i flipped over to Fox they were trying to scare middle america about the weather today.
If there was a constitutionally functioning congress as the founders intended he would not have lasted 6 months or perhaps not even a month. Come to think about it, if the system functioned as the constitution required, Trump would not have made it out of the electoral college, that was it's raison d'être after all, not as a rubber stamp for state majorities. Keeping loonies out of office is why America does not have a direct majority vote for president, but uses the electoral college, the founding fathers did not completely trust the judgement of the people. It turns out they had a point about that after all, perhaps ya need a college of shrinks instead.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Michael Caputo says 'it's clear' Mueller investigators focused on Russia collusion
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/politics/michael-caputo-mueller-investigator/index.html
(CNN)After being interviewed by special counsel investigators on Wednesday, former aide to Donald Trump's presidential campaign Michael Caputo told CNN that Robert Mueller's team is "focused on Russia collusion."

"It's clear they are still really focused on Russia collusion," Caputo said, adding, "They know more about the Trump campaign than anyone who ever worked there."
Caputo, who advised the Trump campaign on communications in 2016, has long insisted he has no information about collusion between Trump's team and Russia. He spoke with Senate intelligence investigators on Tuesday for their Russia probe and outlined the differences between Congress' inquiries and the special counsel's. Trump ally says giving Wolff access was a mistake "The Senate and the House are net fishing," Caputo said. "The special counsel is spearfishing. They know what they are aiming at and are deadly accurate."
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Trump will find that Mueller has HUGE hands....
 
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