The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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Like James Comey and McCabe, nobody is going quietly from the DOJ, everybody is gonna take a piece of Donald with them on the way out and make excellent witnesses for the impeachment trial. Nobody is gonna let this asshole end their career in justice without making Donald pay dearly. I don't think there are any republicans left in the FBI or intelligence communities, there might be conservatives, but that's now different than a republican. I can see the seeds of a new conservative party forming and they will get all the cash, if they can't take the GOP back from the loonie base and Trumpers, they won't have much choice but to play the long game. They might be a separate party or a wing of the republican, but they will eventually take it over again cause they will have the money and the nuts won't.

Any conservative with a brain will want to put some distance between themselves and Trump's base, cause they are headed for the fringe quicker than you might think.
 

Serious Weeds

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See I think the same about seeing new parties popping up soon or something to that affect happening also. But I dont believe it is going to be so one sided. I mean you have some people so far left now like buck. That when someone who would not even consider them self's a Republican being labeled as one because they are not extreme enough and left on every issue.
 

Fogdog

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See I think the same about seeing new parties popping up soon or something to that affect happening also. But I dont believe it is going to be so one sided. I mean you have some people so far left now like buck. That when someone who would not even consider them self's a Republican being labeled as one because they are not extreme enough and left on every issue.
Jeez, man. That was one messed up post. You made no sense. Maybe you should have your Mom edit it before posting.
 

greg nr

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Mueller wants subpoenas for 35 witnesses in Manafort trial
Source: The Hill

Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Wednesday requested 35 sets of subpoenas from a judge for witnesses to appear at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

Bloomberg News reported that Mueller sought the subpoenas from a judge in Alexandria, Va., where Manafort’s trial is set to get underway on July 10.

Mueller asked for blank subpoenas, with the names to be filled in later, Bloomberg reported.

Manafort is facing numerous charges of bank fraud and money laundering. He faces 18 criminal charges in Virginia federal court and five in Washington.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382669-mueller-wants-subpoenas-for-35-witnesses-for-manafort-trial?__twitter_impression=true
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I thought gay sex was dirty??? o_O at least with men.
If yer gay it's ok. To each his own, live and let live. Bob and joe who live down the road seem like nice people, but the bible tells me to stone them to death! What to do!:???: But then again they say the same thing about tattoos too in Leviticus, just down from where they talk trash about gays. Looks like them thar christians is gonna need more rocks!
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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NRA, In New Document, Acknowledges More Than 20 Russian-Linked Contributors
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/11/601534305/nra-in-new-document-acknowledges-more-than-20-russian-linked-contributors
The National Rifle Association has accepted contributions from about 23 Russians, or Americans living in Russia, since 2015, the gun rights group acknowledged to Congress.

The NRA said in a letter to Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., unveiled on Wednesday, that the sum it received from those people was just over $2,500 and most of that was "routine payments" for membership dues or magazine subscriptions.

About $525 of that figure was from "two individuals who made contributions to the NRA."

Wyden has been querying the NRA about its Russia connections following press reports that suggest the FBI is investigating whether Russians might have tried to use the NRA or other political organizations as part of their attack on the 2016 election.

One high-profile Russian NRA supporter, state bank official Alexander Torshin, has cultivated a years-long relationship with the organization — but he was placed under sanction by the United States with other Russians last week.

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These guys laudered tens of millions of dollars of russian money into the US election in 2016 and Mueller is looking past this bullshit.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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John Boehner was a longtime opponent of marijuana reform. Here’s what changed his mind.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/11/john-boehner-was-a-longtime-opponent-of-marijuana-reform-heres-what-changed-his-mind/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.86dd22d2b7ea

John A. Boehner, the former Republican speaker of the House who once said he was “unalterably opposed” to decriminalizing marijuana laws, has joined a board of directors for a cannabis company with an eye on rolling back federal regulations.

The former Ohio congressman, who led a party that was historically opposed to legalizing marijuana, has been appointed to the board of advisers of Acreage Holdings, Boehner said in a statement Wednesday. The company grows and sells legal weed and operates in 11 states.

“I have concluded descheduling the drug is needed so that we can do research and allow [the Department of Veterans Affairs] to offer it as a treatment option in the fight against the opioid epidemic that is ravaging our communities,” he said.
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What changed his mind was money. We've seen it happen in Canada, ex politicians and connected ex cops cash in early. Something is in the wind with cannabis in the US, probably after you deal with Donald. They will have to twist Pences's arm real good to get him to sign, it would be a good one for the democrats to start off with, would throw the GOP for a loop, lot's of their base smokes and grows too. The born yesterday christians would lose their minds completely and it would be divisive as Hell in the GOP, would split the base down the middle. All the opposition to legislation will be concentrated into the GOP.
 

Grandpapy

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Jeez, man. That was one messed up post. You made no sense. Maybe you should have your Mom edit it before posting.
His boss told him to wrap it up and make look like UB is the far Left in order to move the political line.
It was a new task, he was nervous.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Mueller wants subpoenas for 35 witnesses in Manafort trial
Source: The Hill

Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Wednesday requested 35 sets of subpoenas from a judge for witnesses to appear at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

Bloomberg News reported that Mueller sought the subpoenas from a judge in Alexandria, Va., where Manafort’s trial is set to get underway on July 10.

Mueller asked for blank subpoenas, with the names to be filled in later, Bloomberg reported.

Manafort is facing numerous charges of bank fraud and money laundering. He faces 18 criminal charges in Virginia federal court and five in Washington.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382669-mueller-wants-subpoenas-for-35-witnesses-for-manafort-trial?__twitter_impression=true
I wonder, could Trump be a witness? I'll bet money laundering was Trump's game and Manafort does have a place in Trump Tower, the purchase of which was probably part of a money laundering scheme. I'll bet more than a few units in Trump Tower are owned or rented by Russians, any of them on the sanctions list?
 

bundee1

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If yer gay it's ok. To each his own, live and let live. Bob and joe who live down the road seem like nice people, but the bible tells me to stone them to death! What to do!:???: But then again they say the same thing about tattoos too in Leviticus, just down from where they talk trash about gays. Looks like them thar christians is gonna need more rocks!
Anal sex is pretty dope. Can't fault dudes who want to pitch. Homosexuality is biological. I love anal sex but can't stand looking at man ass. No attraction at all. If we werent meant to put it in there once in a while why does it feel like a velvet glove? Ruminations.
 

Sour Wreck

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John Boehner was a longtime opponent of marijuana reform. Here’s what changed his mind.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/11/john-boehner-was-a-longtime-opponent-of-marijuana-reform-heres-what-changed-his-mind/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.86dd22d2b7ea

John A. Boehner, the former Republican speaker of the House who once said he was “unalterably opposed” to decriminalizing marijuana laws, has joined a board of directors for a cannabis company with an eye on rolling back federal regulations.

The former Ohio congressman, who led a party that was historically opposed to legalizing marijuana, has been appointed to the board of advisers of Acreage Holdings, Boehner said in a statement Wednesday. The company grows and sells legal weed and operates in 11 states.

“I have concluded descheduling the drug is needed so that we can do research and allow [the Department of Veterans Affairs] to offer it as a treatment option in the fight against the opioid epidemic that is ravaging our communities,” he said.
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What changed his mind was money. We've seen it happen in Canada, ex politicians and connected ex cops cash in early. Something is in the wind with cannabis in the US, probably after you deal with Donald. They will have to twist Pences's arm real good to get him to sign, it would be a good one for the democrats to start off with, would throw the GOP for a loop, lot's of their base smokes and grows too. The born yesterday christians would lose their minds completely and it would be divisive as Hell in the GOP, would split the base down the middle. All the opposition to legislation will be concentrated into the GOP.
fuck these dickheads. when legalization catches up with me, i doubt seriously if will comply with their stupid plant numbers... hypocritical fucking losers. hope they die a painful, slow death.
 

greg nr

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NYT: Raid on Trumps Lawyer Sought Records on Access Hollywood Tape (Could This Be Why?)
Could Cohen be the link to prove conspiracy & collusion? See the article and then speculation below.

NYT

"The F.B.I. agents who raided the office and hotel of President Trump’s lawyer on Monday were seeking all records related to the “Access Hollywood” tape in which Mr. Trump was heard making vulgar comments about women, according to three people who have been briefed on the contents of a federal search warrant.

The search warrant also sought evidence of whether the lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, tried to suppress damaging information about Mr. Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-access-hollywood.html

SPECULATION: Someone on another board pointed this out. Do you remember what happened immediately after the Access Hollywood tapes came out? Wikileaks started dumping emails from the Clinton campaign. Immediately.

What if Mueller and team have strong indications that Cohen was the one who signaled to Wikileaks to move right now? If they can find evidence of that...

That would prove conspiracy.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Yep, it's about what I figured they felt about Trump. I noticed very little concern for the country in their ravings, just themselves.
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Hours after publishing this, news began to circulate that Paul Ryan is retiring from Congress. But, let’s get back to the rant, because this is incredible.

"It's like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really f*cking stupid Forrest Gump. He can't help himself. He's just a f**king idiot who thinks he's winning when people are b*tching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of sh*t movie. Can you believe it beat the Shawshank Redemption?"

Oh, my. Please continue, congressman.

"I say a lot of shit on TV defending him, even over this. But honestly, I wish the motherf*cker would just go away. We're going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn't led. He wakes up in the morning, sh*ts all over Twitter, sh*ts all over us, sh*ts all over his staff, then hits golf balls. F*ck him. Of course, I can't say that in public or I'd get run out of town."

The congressman went on to explain that if key members of the House Judiciary Committee are facing primary battles for their seats, they’ll stick with Trump because they are so fearful of the deplorable base. If they get through the primaries, there is a chance they could get on board with impeachment because Trump is dragging the entire party down.

"Judiciary is stacked with a bunch of people who can win re-election so long as they don't piss off Trump voters in the primary. But if we get to summer and most of the primaries are over, they just might pull the trigger if the President fires Mueller. The sh*t will hit the fan if that happens and I'd vote to impeach him myself. Most of us would, I think. Hell, all the Democrats would and you only need a majority in the House. If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherf**ker. Take him out with us and let Mike [Pence] take over. At least then we could sleep well at night," he said before going off on a tangent about how the situations with Russia and China scare him. Then, "You know having Mike as President would really piss off all the right people, too. They think they hate Trump. Mike is competent," at which point he sighs and laments that there were, in his mind, more than a dozen competent choices in 2016.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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NYT: Raid on Trumps Lawyer Sought Records on Access Hollywood Tape (Could This Be Why?)
Could Cohen be the link to prove conspiracy & collusion? See the article and then speculation below.

NYT

"The F.B.I. agents who raided the office and hotel of President Trump’s lawyer on Monday were seeking all records related to the “Access Hollywood” tape in which Mr. Trump was heard making vulgar comments about women, according to three people who have been briefed on the contents of a federal search warrant.

The search warrant also sought evidence of whether the lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, tried to suppress damaging information about Mr. Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-access-hollywood.html

SPECULATION: Someone on another board pointed this out. Do you remember what happened immediately after the Access Hollywood tapes came out? Wikileaks started dumping emails from the Clinton campaign. Immediately.

What if Mueller and team have strong indications that Cohen was the one who signaled to Wikileaks to move right now? If they can find evidence of that...

That would prove conspiracy.
If other women wanted to come forward after the access Hollywood incident, perhaps Cohen paid off or threatened them with violence. Remember he was doing stuff mostly by habit and back in the good old days one of the tricks in MIkey's bag could have been intimidation and threats to women. He could get away with bullying then, but this is a different ball game now. They are gonna stack up the charges on Cohen until he cracks and tells where the bodies are buried and acts as a tour guide for Trump's files. He should know that it would not be wise to accept a pardon from Trump, a deal from Mueller would be the safer choice.
 

Sour Wreck

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Yep, it's about what I figured they felt about Trump. I noticed very little concern for the country in their ravings, just themselves.
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Hours after publishing this, news began to circulate that Paul Ryan is retiring from Congress. But, let’s get back to the rant, because this is incredible.

"It's like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really f*cking stupid Forrest Gump. He can't help himself. He's just a f**king idiot who thinks he's winning when people are b*tching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of sh*t movie. Can you believe it beat the Shawshank Redemption?"

Oh, my. Please continue, congressman.

"I say a lot of shit on TV defending him, even over this. But honestly, I wish the motherf*cker would just go away. We're going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn't led. He wakes up in the morning, sh*ts all over Twitter, sh*ts all over us, sh*ts all over his staff, then hits golf balls. F*ck him. Of course, I can't say that in public or I'd get run out of town."

The congressman went on to explain that if key members of the House Judiciary Committee are facing primary battles for their seats, they’ll stick with Trump because they are so fearful of the deplorable base. If they get through the primaries, there is a chance they could get on board with impeachment because Trump is dragging the entire party down.

"Judiciary is stacked with a bunch of people who can win re-election so long as they don't piss off Trump voters in the primary. But if we get to summer and most of the primaries are over, they just might pull the trigger if the President fires Mueller. The sh*t will hit the fan if that happens and I'd vote to impeach him myself. Most of us would, I think. Hell, all the Democrats would and you only need a majority in the House. If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherf**ker. Take him out with us and let Mike [Pence] take over. At least then we could sleep well at night," he said before going off on a tangent about how the situations with Russia and China scare him. Then, "You know having Mike as President would really piss off all the right people, too. They think they hate Trump. Mike is competent," at which point he sighs and laments that there were, in his mind, more than a dozen competent choices in 2016.

there were ZERO competent choices in 2016, that's why orange dogshit won. that and evangelicals turning on jesus...
 

greg nr

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Steve Bannon is lobbying the White House to fire Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein in hopes of ‘crippling’ Mueller

President Donald Trump’s ousted chief strategist Steve Bannon is pitching the White House on a plan intended to “cripple” special counsel Robert Mueller and protect the president.

The Washington Post reported Wednesday night that the people close to the erstwhile Breitbart executive say his plan has multiple stages. First: fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Second: stop cooperating with Mueller. Third: invoke “executive privilege,” which would supposedly render all of the interviews Mueller’s team has done with people close to the president “null and void.”





Robert Costa April 11 at 8:23 PM Email the author

Stephen K. Bannon, who was ousted as White House chief strategist last summer but has remained in touch with some members of President Trump’s circle, is pitching a plan to West Wing aides and congressional allies to cripple the federal probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to four people familiar with the discussions.

The first step, these people say, would be for Trump to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees the work of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and in recent days signed off on a search warrant of Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.

Bannon is also recommending the White House cease its cooperation with Mueller, reversing the policy of Trump’s legal team to provide information to the special counsel’s team and to allow staff members to sit for interviews.

And he is telling associates inside and outside the administration that the president should create a new legal battleground to protect himself from the investigation by asserting executive privilege — and arguing that Mueller’s interviews with White House officials over the past year should now be null and void.

“The president wasn’t fully briefed by his lawyers on the implications” of not invoking executive privilege, Bannon told The Washington Post in an interview Wednesday. “It was a strategic mistake to turn over everything without due process, and executive privilege should be exerted immediately and retroactively.”


There is no indication that Trump, who forced out Bannon and later said his former adviser had “lost his mind” after leaving the West Wing, would be willing to take Bannon’s advice or is aware of the plan. Several Trump aides also remain skeptical of the former strategist’s attempt to insert himself into the president’s decision-making process.

“If you say his name in front of the president, it’s not a pretty sight,” said a senior administration official. “The president really goes off about him.”

Nonetheless, Bannon’s efforts signify the growing pressure from an influential wing of Trump’s political base to thwart Mueller, who, many Trump allies believe, presents an existential legal and political threat to his presidency.

Trump boosters in Congress are preparing to take legislative action against Rosenstein and other Justice officials over the disclosure of documents related to the Russia investigation. That push is seen by Bannon and others in the White House as a cause that could prompt Trump to act and shift much of the Russia investigation to Capitol Hill, where Republicans control both chambers.

Trump remains furious with the Mueller probe, which on Wednesday he blasted on Twitter as “never ending and corrupt.” He has also considered firing Rosenstein, whom he has criticized for approving surveillance applications of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which extended a warrant that partly relied on information that was funded in a roundabout way by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.

Bannon and his allies sense that Trump simply needs a nudge to fire Rosenstein, according to the people familiar with Bannon’s discussions. They said Trump has recently told friends and aides that he is willing to engage in political warfare in the coming months to stop his presidency from being consumed by the investigation.

Bannon’s conversations, including a meeting Tuesday night between the former strategist and Trump confidants, have so far remained through back channels.


The 64-year-old strategist has huddled in recent days — at his Capitol Hill townhouse, a Washington hotel and over the phone — with a handful of White House aides, GOP lawmakers and conservative media figures who speak frequently with Trump, according to people involved, who spoke to The Post on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

Bannon’s standing within Trump’s orbit is tenuous. In January, lawyers for Trump accused Bannon of breaking a confidentiality agreement by making critical comments about Trump and his family in “Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House,” by Michael Wolff.

Ever since, Bannon has seen his domestic political operation — which was focused on the 2018 midterm elections — fizzle, and his attention has turned abroad to boosting far-right nationalist candidates in Europe, giving speeches and promoting his hard-line views on global affairs. Amid all of that activity, he has regularly spoken with White House officials and lawmakers about Trump and offered informal guidance on issues such as trade and the Russia investigation.

Bannon, who has been interviewed extensively by Mueller’s team, remains sensitive about directly approaching Trump with his call to fire Rosenstein and curb Justice’s grip over the Russia probe, the people added, noting that federal investigators could raise questions about such exchanges.

Some top Trump advisers, such as White House counsel Donald McGahn, are said to be alarmed by the suggestions to fire Rosenstein or Mueller, worrying that such moves could prompt mass resignations at Justice and a constitutional crisis, the people said. McGahn, who in the past has threatened to step down if the president fired Mueller, is widely seen within the West Wing as liable to resign if Rosenstein is fired.

“A guy leaning on a mop over at the Justice Department may be the guy who ends up firing Mueller,” one person said.

Asked Wednesday afternoon whether Trump would be pushing out Rosenstein, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, “I don’t have any personnel announcements.” But she offered no words of support for Rosenstein, signaling that the deputy attorney general’s job may be in jeopardy. Later Wednesday, a White House spokesman pointed to Huckabee Sanders’s news conference when asked for comment about Bannon.

Legal experts are dubious about Bannon’s idea that the White House could suddenly claim executive privilege on interviews that were given voluntarily by officials and be able to exclude them from an investigation that is partly reliant on those interviews. But Bannon believes Trump can argue he was given poor counsel by his lawyers on Russia, including Ty Cobb, who has encouraged a cooperative approach to Mueller’s team.

“Ty Cobb should be fired immediately,” Bannon said.

Cobb declined to comment.

The case against Rosenstein has featured prominently in the closed-door discussions among Bannon and other figures on the right, with Bannon arguing that voters in the GOP base will stick by the president if he removes Rosenstein despite protests from Republican leaders and many others.

Rosenstein’s approval of the Cohen warrant, which led to raids Monday on Cohen’s home and office, has angered Trump and prompted him to vent over the past day about Rosenstein being “out of control,” one Republican lawmaker said.

If Rosenstein were fired, his replacement could reel in the authority that Mueller was granted last year and set new parameters for the scope of the Russia investigation, according to Louis Seidman, a constitutional-law professor at Georgetown University.

“Depending on how aggressive this person wanted to be, they could dismiss the criminal cases, they could get rid of the grand jury,” Seidman said. “In the end, if Trump is determined, the people he appoints could shut it down.”

For Bannon, this hostility to Mueller represents an evolution. A year ago, he opposed the firing of then-FBI Director James B. Comey and recommended a hands-off approach to the Russia investigation and Justice.

“I have the upmost respect for Bob Mueller and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, but the developments over the past two weeks make it the right time to shift the center of gravity of this back to Capitol Hill,” Bannon said. “Make the Republican Party own this, force them to have his back.”
 
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