The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

Trump continues war with the FBI
U.S. President Donald Trump's continued war with the FBI has only gained more steam as the U.S. Justice Department continues it's Russia investigation. CBC News looks at Trump's tendency to challenge the independence of law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
 
I figure Mueller has a plan and your seeing it unfold, it will by necessity have to move quickly and efficiently to the top. Mueller is starting to control events now as new prosecutions are announced weekly, feeding the news cycle. The 13 russians and the Dutch lawyer son in law of the oligarch will make it very difficult to sweep under the rug. It's probably gonna come to a point where the GOP congress will have to decide between Trump or Mueller, cause Trump will fire Mueller or Rosenstein. I think they will be fired together, cause if only one is fired, the other might speak out, take legal action(s), or resign in protest, it will most likely be a real mess and shit storm. I predict Paul and Mitch will both have their cock's caught in the meat grinder over the mess as Trump panics and goes off the deep end! It's gonna get hotter for Donald from here on out and crazier for the rest of us as he freaks out, spins, lies and distracts.

I've heard talk on TV that a half a dozen people in the WH might have been wearing wires for months, there could very well be "tapes", that would make Nixon's look tame. There is a ton of electronic evidence, much of it classified to protect sources and methods, they won't have to use classified material if they use it to squeeze witnesses like Flynn, Manafort and others. Judging by the amount of freaking out Trump is doing and the Twitter tirades, I say Donald is getting worried. Trying to blame the FBI for the Florida school shooting was obvious and beneath contempt, the desperate words of a frightened fool.
 
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DOJ Lawyer Neal Katyal: Mueller Can Ask To Indict Donald Trump
Legal experts have debated whether special counsel can indict a sitting president from the time of Nixon’s presidency. The man who wrote the rules on how a Special Counsel should operate Neal Katyal, explains Mueller’s indictment power and limitations within the Justice Department.
 
Mueller is about to take a big step closer to Trump
By Philip Bump
To date, four people have pleaded guilty to charges brought against them by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and his team. Two were ancillary characters: a businessman who apparently sold bank account numbers to Russian trolls; and a lawyer who had worked with former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his longtime partner Rick Gates.

Two were closer to the campaign. One is campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, whose connections to Russia-linked characters helped spur the initial investigation in July 2016 into whether President Trump’s campaign had aided Russian interference efforts. And then there’s Michael Flynn, a campaign aide who wound up as Trump’s national security adviser. Both Papadopoulos and Flynn have apparently agreed to work with Mueller’s team in its investigation, but it’s not clear how much either knew about what the campaign was doing. Flynn’s role was the same on paper as Papadopoulos’s, but he was clearly closer to Trump.

Neither, though, is known to have had intimate familiarity with what the Trump campaign effort looked like. Which makes Friday’s news of an intent by Gates — both a campaign staffer and, before that, a Manafort partner — to cooperate with Mueller potentially very significant.
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"No Sides Left": Top Trump Aide Pleads Guilty In Mueller Probe | The Beat With Ari Melber
Guilty Trump aide Rick Gates admits he lied to Mueller's team while trying to cut a deal with Mueller's team. Journalist David Rothkopf says Mueller is sending a message to Trump: "when I get to you, you're got".

A pretty good legal discussion by experts and it shows you how much trouble Trump and those around him are in.
 
Robert Mueller and his pursuit of justice
CNN's Gloria Borger profiles Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the man tasked with investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Meet the anti Trump
 
President Donald Trump Impeachment: Donald Trump Impeachment Could Happen | AM Joy
The man who predicted that Donald Trump would win the presidency, now predicts that he will be impeached. Historian Allan Lichtman and Joy Reid discuss how he believes Robert Mueller’s Russia probe bears the seeds.
 
The Great Escape Scenario
What would happen one day when the heat was closing in, if Donald and family climbed on Airforce one, flew to russia and refused to come back? Would the GOP impeach him then, or explain away his "extended visit"? I can see the plane sitting on the tarmac in moscow for weeks or even months and Trump getting political asylum, even reaching out to his loyal supporters back home using twitter to stir up shit. It's the only way out for them that I can see, maybe Vlad will give Donald one of his old mansions so he can rub America's nose in it for years. Or perhaps Donald will fly to moscow and resign the presidency to pursue "business opportunities" in russia. I figure they are so stupid and greedy they'd fuck up the great escape too, but who could stop them? Why not just let the cocksuckers go, problem solved? Besides, just before impeachment Donald will pardon everybody from moscow, problem solved!

For a man facing a lifetime in prison, Kushner sure seems to have an appetite for classified material that he has no clearance to see and is apparently fighting to retain access to. Perhaps he needs something for uncle Vlad to secure his future in russia, I think his family was from there originally, full circle.

Yep, after weeks of indecision the GOP finally impeaches Trump (his base support is still strong) and slides in Pence for President, he will suck Vlad's ass to get his plane back and also because Vlad has him by the balls too. Make America great again...

Are ya tired of winning yet?
 
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Here's a question. If the GOP doesn't impeach Trump before the election and the Democrats do it after the election, could they do a double header, could both Trump and Pence be impeached at the same time? (Assuming there was evidence).
President Pelosi after the midterms? Nancy Pelosi as first female POTUS, every redneck's nightmare!:o

Maybe Mitch and Paul might wanna do Donald before the midterms...
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Here's a question. If the GOP doesn't impeach Trump before the election and the Democrats do it after the election, could they do a double header, could both Trump and Pence be impeached at the same time? (Assuming there was evidence).
President Pelosi after the midterms? Nancy Pelosi as first female POTUS, every redneck's nightmare!:o

Maybe Mitch and Paul might wanna do Donald before the midterms...
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rednecks would lose their fucking minds. they would declare war on the US
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Here's a question. If the GOP doesn't impeach Trump before the election and the Democrats do it after the election, could they do a double header, could both Trump and Pence be impeached at the same time? (Assuming there was evidence).
President Pelosi after the midterms? Nancy Pelosi as first female POTUS, every redneck's nightmare!:o

Maybe Mitch and Paul might wanna do Donald before the midterms...
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I've said this several times, but we need 18 republican votes to convict someone in the senate. There is NO F'IN WAY we will get a republican senator to elect a President Pelosi.

They would sooner let them continue the administration from prison. In likelihood, the courts would allow him to remain in the WH until the end of his presidency. Courts cannot remove a sitting president. Only congress can do that.

So if the president refuses to resign, and the congress refuses to remove him, it gets very scary.

But what will likely happen is Pence will resign before this congress ends. It takes a majority of both houses to confirm a new vp. If they wait until after the 2018 election, they may not have majorities anymore and couldn't push a terrible choice down our throats.

They can now.

So look to Pence to resign if the gop makes the calculation they can't keep trump. The new VP will then become president when/if trump leaves office before 2021. The new pres could then pardon EVERYONE. They won't be tied up in a conflict of interest issue.

That will at least take federal charges off the table, and that may be the best chance trump has. The new york state charges may not be strong enough to jail him or his family. And if a republican ever takes over as governor, more pardons can be issued.

Yes, the republicans are tribal pigs. They would do this in a heartbeat. And they will never let a dem become president through succession forced by impeachment.
 
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I've said this several times, but we need 18 republican votes to convict someone in the senate. There is NO F'IN WAY we will get a republican senator to elect a President Pelosi.

They would sooner let them continue the administration from prison. In likelihood, the courts would allow him to remain in the WH until the end of his presidency. Courts cannot remove a sitting president. Only congress can do that.

So if the president refuses to resign, and the congress refuses to remove him, it gets very scary.

But what will likely happen is Pence will resign before this congress ends. It takes a majority of both houses to confirm a new vp. If they wait until after the 2018 election, they may not have majorities anymore and couldn't push a terrible choice down our throats.

They can now.

So look to Pence to resign if the gop makes the calculation they can't keep trump. The new VP will then become president when/if trump leaves office before 2021. The new pres could then pardon EVERYONE. They won't be tied up in a conflict of interest issue.

That will at least take federal charges off the table, and that may be the best chance trump has. The new york state charges may not be strong enough to jail him or his family. And if a republican ever takes over as governor, more pardons can be issued.

Yes, the republicans are tribal pigs. They would do this in a heartbeat. And they will never let a dem become president through succession forced by impeachment.
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I think a run for russia is a possibility, remember this is already far stranger than fiction and ya can't make this shit up etc. If ya think about it, it's the only way to avoid prison and would leave the GOP holding the bag with shit on their faces. A historic screwing of epic proportions, the GOP would be wiped out except for Trump's base, they would remain unmoved even if Donald moved to moscow.

The mere thought of a President Pelosi would put the fear of God into the republicans, it was just a pleasant thought! We're here to have fun too.;)
 
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