Cornel West Isn't Impressed With Barack Obama, Either

Fogdog

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trippnface said:
It's kind of like drug smuggling.

"Law enforcement retrieves hundreds of packages of Marijuana! what a find!! million dollar bust!! "

Cops are happy, some people are happy, justice served.

Meanwhile, 10x as much Cocaine slipped through, no problem.

Distractions are nice.
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SneekyNinja

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trippnface said:
This is a Republic. Not a Democracy.

The United States would cease to be the United States, if we were a true Democracy.
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Why?

Because the people could directly elect the President?

You seem a bit of a dullard if I'm honest.

Republic:
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
 
Fogdog

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trippnface said:
"There are plenty of right wing nationalists who say that Israel has no right to exist. Sounds very much like what you've been saying about Israel."

That is an interesting statement, but I believe most of those individuals would be independents or libertarians. I really can't recall any republicans against israel. Can you show me some?
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David Duke is a Republican. He's very strongly of the belief that Israel has no right to exist.

 
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Fogdog

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trippnface said:
This statement shows how seriously far removed you were from any kind of accurate representation of the past Election. No offense, but the only people that argue the way you do, are older middle class ladies. Everything you parrot is severe typical Neoliberal garbage ( of which most of the subscribers are old ladies, who don't understand how Society shifts). No offense if you are an old brainwashed lady... just an interesting observation.

Also, you really need to educate yourself on the corruption of the DNC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/independents-may-feel-the-bern-but-they-cant-vote-in-new-yorks-closed-primary/2016/04/17/9d764134-0291-11e6-9203-7b8670959b88_story.html?utm_term=.97c92ef2b490

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-hanley/when-independents-can-vot_b_9834224.html

You must have missed the hundreds of articles that came out discussing the same thing......
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You must have missed that Bernie lost a whopping large majority of open primaries. Where are all those independents and libertarians who would have voted for Bernie "if only they could". Well, where were they when in fact they could? Where are they? If speaking truth is "parroting neoliberal garbage" then I'm gleefully guilty.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/02/closed_primaries_did_not_stop_bernie_sanders_130446.html

Regarding New York's election, the rules were set in place years ago by New York's chapter of the Democratic party. They weren't made that way because of Bernie, he wasn't even running for prez nor was he a member of the Democratic party at the time those rules were set. In any case, why SHOULD independents and people who aren't affiliated with the Democratic party participate in the selection of the DEMOCRATIC party's nominee? Also, not even close to corruption found here. Do you even know what corruption is?
 
trippnface

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Fogdog said:
David Duke is a Republican. He's very strongly of the belief that Israel has no right to exist.

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noted lol... he did start his career running as a democrat, though.

Besides, he must be insane. I don't understand how a former ku klux klan member could possibly care about the plight of the palestinians. I suppose he is just a classic neo nazi type against "jews" rather than Zionism. I don't really follow news on him though. ...

Definitely not a large majority. You would be nearly just as hard pressed from the " left" to find a speaker against Israel.
 
UncleBuck

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trippnface said:
noted lol... he did start his career running as a democrat, though.

Besides, he must be insane. I don't understand how a former ku klux klan member could possibly care about the plight of the palestinians. I suppose he is just a classic neo nazi type against "jews" rather than Zionism. I don't really follow news on him though. ...

Definitely not a large majority. You would be nearly just as hard pressed from the " left" to find a speaker against Israel.
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the american nazi party and the KKK are both notorious jew haters just like you, both endorsed your boy trump.
 
PCXV

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Fogdog

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trippnface said:
noted lol... he did start his career running as a democrat, though.

Besides, he must be insane. I don't understand how a former ku klux klan member could possibly care about the plight of the palestinians. I suppose he is just a classic neo nazi type against "jews" rather than Zionism. I don't really follow news on him though. ...

Definitely not a large majority. You would be nearly just as hard pressed from the " left" to find a speaker against Israel.
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I simply picked out an easy target. If you scratch the Republican party, you'd find racists and antisemitic assholes crawling about like fleas on an alley cat. Trump attracted racist and sexist white people to vote for him like no other candidate in decades. Economic factors did not have much of an effect. People who said they were economically anxious were as likely to vote for Clinton as Trump. People who were racist or sexist in their attitudes almost universally voted for Trump and the opposite almost universally voted for Clinton.

Explaining White Polarization in the 2016 Vote for President: The Sobering Role of Racism and Sexism
http://people.umass.edu/schaffne/schaffner_et_al_IDC_conference.pdf

As far as "the left" not opposing Israel, there are plenty who oppose Israel's treatment of Palestinians and it's pugnacious nationalism. The difference is whether or not they think the state of Israel should be wiped out. That cataclysm is only desired by Jew haters.
 
trippnface

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Fogdog said:
I simply picked out an easy target. If you scratch the Republican party, you'd find racists and antisemitic assholes crawling about like fleas on an alley cat. Trump attracted racist and sexist white people to vote for him like no other candidate in decades. Economic factors did not have much of an effect. People who said they were economically anxious were as likely to vote for Clinton as Trump. People who were racist or sexist in their attitudes almost universally voted for Trump and the opposite almost universally voted for Clinton.

Explaining White Polarization in the 2016 Vote for President: The Sobering Role of Racism and Sexism
http://people.umass.edu/schaffne/schaffner_et_al_IDC_conference.pdf

As far as "the left" not opposing Israel, there are plenty who oppose Israel's treatment of Palestinians and it's pugnacious nationalism. The difference is whether or not they think the state of Israel should be wiped out. That cataclysm is only desired by Jew haters.
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I don't know any outright racists or sexists, So I really can't talk on that. All the Republicans that voted for Trump that I communicate with did so on the basis of having conservative values, and hating Clinton. I consider the warmongering of the West as inherently racist, and both parties are advocates for warmongering in this age, so both parties have more than their fair share of racists.

Obviously sexists and racists voted for Trump. That doesn't mean all of them, but surely more than a few. Was it "Racists & Sexists" that put Trump over the line, though? Definitely not, that was certainly the large group of Americans that despise Clinton. Besides. Plenty of people of color voted for Trump. I have seen them viciously attacked and degraded, by the left? Claiming to oppose Racism, then berating a minority for their vote, is definitely racist.

Where are all these Politicians that oppose Israel?

Unless you swear alligiance to AIPAC, you don't become a Politician.... no matter what side of the line you are on.
 
Fogdog

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trippnface said:
I don't know any outright racists or sexists, So I really can't talk on that. All the Republicans that voted for Trump that I communicate with did so on the basis of having conservative values, and hating Clinton. I consider the warmongering of the West as inherently racist, and both parties are advocates for warmongering in this age, so both parties have more than their fair share of racists.

Obviously sexists and racists voted for Trump. That doesn't mean all of them, but surely more than a few. Was it "Racists & Sexists" that put Trump over the line, though? Definitely not, that was certainly the large group of Americans that despise Clinton. Besides. Plenty of people of color voted for Trump. I have seen them viciously attacked and degraded, by the left? Claiming to oppose Racism, then berating a minority for their vote, is definitely racist.

Where are all these Politicians that oppose Israel?

Unless you swear alligiance to AIPAC, you don't become a Politician.... no matter what side of the line you are on.
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Yes or no,

Most black people in the US experience hardship due to prejudice against their skin color.
 
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SneekyNinja

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trippnface said:
I don't know any outright racists or sexists, So I really can't talk on that. All the Republicans that voted for Trump that I communicate with did so on the basis of having conservative values, and hating Clinton. I consider the warmongering of the West as inherently racist, and both parties are advocates for warmongering in this age, so both parties have more than their fair share of racists.

Obviously sexists and racists voted for Trump. That doesn't mean all of them, but surely more than a few. Was it "Racists & Sexists" that put Trump over the line, though? Definitely not, that was certainly the large group of Americans that despise Clinton. Besides. Plenty of people of color voted for Trump. I have seen them viciously attacked and degraded, by the left? Claiming to oppose Racism, then berating a minority for their vote, is definitely racist.

Where are all these Politicians that oppose Israel?

Unless you swear alligiance to AIPAC, you don't become a Politician.... no matter what side of the line you are on.
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You think Trump is a Conservative?

He's been a womanizing Democrat his entire life, he ran Republican because you cucks are easily lead.
 
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